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04-13-2020, 06:42 AM
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#221
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,606
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:w00t
Deleted.. I’ve had too much coffee.
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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04-13-2020, 06:49 AM
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#222
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vintageracer
How the Hell did this thread git to a discussion of carbon emissions and all this other crap when the OP's question is:
"So I guess a 1/2-ton truck is enough"
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Where can I buy carbon shoes ? I would like to see what my carbon footprint looks like.
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04-13-2020, 07:37 AM
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#223
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by franklyfrank
Where can I buy carbon shoes ? I would like to see what my carbon footprint looks like.
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https://www.fleetfeet.com/blog/carbo...-running-shoes
Here ya go.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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04-13-2020, 08:45 AM
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#224
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,653
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kscherzi
I don't know where you can find a curvy 12% road, but I know where a long curvy 24% grade road is. East side of Ebbetts pass in the Sierra Nevada's, California Highway 4.
It's one of the five legs of the infamous Death Ride. But a F250 with its bigger brakes and powerful engine should be able to handle it nicely.
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Let me think, How many tines have I encountered a 20+% grade? NEVER!
How many times have I gone to the grocery store? HUNDREDS!
I don't base my choices on hypotheticals.
"But if a herd of white rinos escaped from the zoo and ran across that curvy road during a blizzard, I'd sure be glad I had a PPP hitch!"
The defense rests.
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04-13-2020, 09:00 AM
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#225
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
, Nevada
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,703
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kscherzi
I don't know where you can find a curvy 12% road, but I know where a long curvy 24% grade road is. East side of Ebbetts pass in the Sierra Nevada's, California Highway 4.
It's one of the five legs of the infamous Death Ride. But a F250 with its bigger brakes and powerful engine should be able to handle it nicely.
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Post #216. Did you detach the trailer AFTER coming UP, not needing brakes, or before going DOWN when you would require medical attention?
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04-13-2020, 10:18 AM
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#226
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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Here is the thing. I would not do that road pulling the trailer either with my 3/4 ton or with the 1/2 ton that is likely to replace it if it dies. I go around the Bear Tooth highway instead of pulling across with my trailer too. I am no longer looking for challanges.
And if I encounter bad conditions when pulling I hope I have the sense to stop. And if I do not stop I am going to be going so slow that 1/2 or 3/4 ton does not come into play.
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04-13-2020, 10:52 AM
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#227
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4 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2009 19' International
Aptos
, California
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 311
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My wife and I did Ebbetts Pass west to east hauling our new 19’ Bambi with our F150. It was a lot of work, occasionally scary, and required more than one brake cool-down break. I can’t remember why we did it but I do remember getting camped near the Carson River in time to hit a late evening Blue Wing Olive fly hatch that had all the fish under every bank looking up and eating eagerly. Worth the trauma.
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04-14-2020, 07:19 AM
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#228
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,606
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brad1
I do remember getting camped near the Carson River in time to hit a late evening Blue Wing Olive fly hatch that had all the fish under every bank looking up and eating eagerly. Worth the trauma.
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This changes everything. I’d hook my AS to a ford pinto to get there for that.
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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04-14-2020, 10:13 AM
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#229
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,653
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I'm just sayin'
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04-14-2020, 11:40 AM
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#230
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
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Thank you 😊
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04-14-2020, 04:35 PM
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#231
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Hiawassee
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,412
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Remember Mr Wizard?
Mr Wizard was a TV personality years ago that would set up science experiments to show kids. I recall one setup he used to illustrate the concept of chain reaction. He dropped a ping pong ball into a large glass crate full of mouse traps, each with its own ping pong ball sitting on the spring. You can imagine what happened when that ping pong ball was dropped.
Reminds me of this thread😂.
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04-14-2020, 06:36 PM
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#232
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Hiawassee
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,412
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Here’s a newer example...enjoy😀
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04-15-2020, 07:14 AM
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#233
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Rivet Master
2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
I'm just sayin'
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That pink Pontiac!
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04-15-2020, 07:30 AM
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#234
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Rivet Master
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Wenatchee
, Washington
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 512
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So I guess a 1/2-ton truck is enough
I wish the Mythbusters would come out of retirement long enough to solve this question, once and for all...
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2018 Ram 3500 SLT CTD 4X4 pickup
2014 Airstream Flying Cloud 27FB
WBCCI #7180
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04-15-2020, 07:18 PM
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#235
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Rivet Master
2020 30' Classic
Frederick
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 781
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I have discovered something! These long truck threads are more entertaining if you read backwards! Start at the last post and go back and it is much more interesting.
The issue is never tow capacity or power, it is payload. I maxed payload and GVWR on my F150 because we bought the Platinum with all the doo dads. Could I have made it work? Probably. But I don't like to push tolerances so I moved up to a 3/4 ton and am now comfortably within all specs.
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04-15-2020, 07:44 PM
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#236
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Highlands Ranch
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 225
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With regard to the 24% grade, it is possible to overheat your transmission going downhill.
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04-15-2020, 10:55 PM
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#237
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1 Rivet Member
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 10
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2500 to 3000 payload for a 2020 F150 would be more than enough for me!
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04-16-2020, 05:17 AM
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#238
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,606
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I’m not saying it’s ok to run your pickup overloaded, but my guess it it’s done quite often. I’ve seen several half tons pulling goose necks. I’m always amazed and a bit shocked.
I wonder if many accidents are actually caused by running down the road a few hundred pounds over payload? I doubt very many. (But I am only guessing) I used to drive 50,000 miles a year. I did for 30+ years. I’ve driven by countless accidents, I just don’t remember seeing many RVs in accidents period. I know they do happen, but they seem rare, and if I had to guess a lot could be prevented by more careful driving. (Speed and distraction)
I’m also aware of the legal issues always brought up, if you’re in a wreck and you’re overloaded etc..
I spend a lot of time on motorcycles so I guess I’m used to living with some risk in life. A few hundred pounds over payload is something I can live with. Certainly not worth the money and inconvenience of switching to 3/4 ton. If I could fit it in the garage, didn’t blow up the budget, and the ride was the same, I’d be more interested. In the meantime I’ll post here somewhere that I’m on the road and where I’m going so you guys can steer clear.
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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04-16-2020, 05:39 AM
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#239
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Hiawassee
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,412
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve340
2500 to 3000 payload for a 2020 F150 would be more than enough for me!
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F150 with 2500 to 3000 lb payload?
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04-16-2020, 06:32 AM
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#240
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Highlands Ranch
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KK4YZ
F150 with 2500 to 3000 lb payload?
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He must have the virus. He's out of his mind. I have just over 3K payload on my 1 ton truck.
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