So I guess a 1/2-ton truck is enough

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by overlander63

Bob, I see this almost daily. People are buying a $100k A/S and a $60k TV, then balk at paying any more than $179 for a hitch to connect them.

But, that's probably a topic for another heated thread...

Terry,

I carry a Hensley Insurance Policy on 'Cloudsplitter', it has cost us $150 per year so far, and is going down every year.
Worth it? You bet.

Bob
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[r carl]

Originally Posted by Skip Chell

Here’s my thoughts.

At the first corner you take the trailer will run over you.

[GettinAway]

Yep, move to a home with a bigger garage. No problem. Stay at home or only stay in hotels. No problem. Buy a lift to get your spouse in and out of your TV. No problem. Or, maybe just change spouses. No problem. Save up for a few more years so you can afford diesel and diesel maintenance. No problem. Spend a few more thousand on a hitch that will perform better if you are speeding down a 10% grade in a snow storm and a heard of elk run out in front of you. No problem.
Or,,, drive a half ton that’s lower riding, more economical, more comfortable, and completely capable, with a proven well performing hitch. Big problem..
Yep, makes total sense to me. I’ve just got to rethink everything.

[Mollysdad]

Originally Posted by Countryboy59

Why does everyone’s tow rig have to be a daily driver? It’s better to have the right tool for the job than to compromise.

Because, contrary to the popular belief about Airstreamers, we don't all have 2 million dollar 401K's.
Not only does a second vehicle cost more to own, it also costs a lot to insure. It ads to the carbon footprint, it needs maintenance, a place to park it, and for a family of one, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Mollysdad]

"I wouldn't have nuthin' less than a Peterbuilt for my family."

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by GettinAway

Yep, move to a home with a bigger garage. No problem. Stay at home or only stay in hotels. No problem. Buy a lift to get your spouse in and out of your TV. No problem. Or, maybe just change spouses. No problem. Save up for a few more years so you can afford diesel and diesel maintenance. No problem. Spend a few more thousand on a hitch that will perform better if you are speeding down a 10% grade in a snow storm and a heard of elk run out in front of you. No problem.
Or,,, drive a half ton that’s lower riding, more economical, more comfortable, and completely capable, with a proven well performing hitch. Big problem..
Yep, makes total sense to me. I’ve just got to rethink everything.

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Yep...That's Me, more $$$$ than I know how to spend.

Go'nAway in what I feel is appropriate, just like everyone else. TETO


I've been saying it here for years....
“If you’re happy with what you’re using…it’s adequate.
If other people are unhappy….It’s not”
Live with it.

Bob
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[SailorSam205]

Originally Posted by Profxd

When it comes to towing, safety and stability should be priority #1. Not things like, does it fit in a garage, poor fuel mileage, it rides too rough. These things begin to compromise what’s important so maybe you should reevaluate what your doing and maybe stay in hotels instead.

Everything is a compromise. The way you state it, pulling anything larger than a pop-up must be towed by a HD Freightliner. Get rid of ALL Airstream trailers, bumper pulls are inherently unstable. Only 5th wheels trailers are allowed allowed to get needed stability. If you must have an Airstream, buy a coach. Get real.

[Countryboy59]

Originally Posted by Mollysdad

Because, contrary to the popular belief about Airstreamers, we don't all have 2 million dollar 401K's.
Not only does a second vehicle cost more to own, it also costs a lot to insure. It ads to the carbon footprint, it needs maintenance, a place to park it, and for a family of one, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Mine sits in the garage, emitting zero carbon. While driving it, my SUV is parked, offsetting the carbon from my tow vehicle since only one vehicle is emitting carbon at a time. Insurance on a 7 year old diesel truck is quite affordable, and in the off season it can be uninsured. A 401k is not required to own any of the above, and buying used allows me to avoid ridiculous full coverage insurance if I don’t want it. For the $60k people pay for a nice truck I have a super low mileage diesel Ram, a Chevy SUV, a nice Harley, and about $6k left over.

I’d rather have a properly sized tow vehicle and not worry about having enough truck, than grip the wheel of my old Grand Cherokee and not have any fun. And with all the sue-happy people out there, my diesel truck actually protects my 401k by making towing a bit less risky.

[vintageracer]

How the Hell did this thread git to a discussion of carbon emissions and all this other crap when the OP's question is:

"So I guess a 1/2-ton truck is enough"

[ROBERT CROSS]

Maybe because the title is just an inane question?

Bob
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[BobnGayl]

Originally Posted by 21Airstream

As a (retired) State Trooper, freezing rain scares me as bad as wildfire (and I’ve dealt with both more than once). I have bad memories from one night on I-90 involving one fatal crash, a DUI rollover in the median, a jack-knifed semi with Haz-Mat Incident, and several other one car crashes, all unrelated to one another but within minutes of each other. We had three separate fatal crashes involving freezing rain that night.

Now that I’m retired, I don’t drive in freezing rain and I wouldn’t dream of towing any trailer in it under any circumstances.

I completely agree. Anyone driving anything at 65 mph on an icy flat road is nuts. Doing so down a curvy 12% road is a person looking for a Darwin Award. And 12%? Where do you even find one like that. Loveland Pass is 6.7% and it’s bad enough. Berthoud is 6.3% and Monarch is 7%. All three are challenging with a trailer in the summer with dry roads. I’ve driven them in the winter too many times and we didn’t enjoy it. Happily I’ve never done it in the winter with a trailer. Nor would I.

[GettinAway]

Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS

You base your AS purchase on what you already own to tow it?
Bassakwards...

Bob
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This definitely sounds like a to each their own comment..

[GettinAway]

Ignore my previous post. I’ve found a solution. I’ve put an ad in the personal section of whatever amounts for the classifieds these days. I’m looking for an attractive female former high jumper (I won’t even have to open the door, she will fly in through the window). She’s got to be very wealthy, like riding in buckboard wagons, and racing down mountain passes at breakneck speed (completely under control though) Only “with” the cruise control on. She has to own an estate with 10’ garage openings, and enjoys the smell of diesel fuel, and exhaust! I hope to meet her as soon as it’s safe to travel.
I’ve told my lovely wife she’s out. She can’t compete due to her titanium hip. She can keep the house with the low garage door openings.
I have justifiable cause, as I refuse to only stay in hotels while traveling!! I’m keeping the AS, I bought foolishly thinking it could be pulled by my Tundra. I intend to buy an F750 MegaCab Z-71 High Sierra Power Turbo with 2,000 pounds of torque and will be pushing 1,000 HP once I get it tuned and chipped.
Why o why do I open tow vehicle threads?

Just kidding! Happy Easter Everyone! Indeed, to each their own.

Jeff

[Ultraclassic]

Originally Posted by GettinAway

Ignore my previous post. I’ve found a solution. I’ve put an ad in the personal section of whatever amounts for the classifieds these days. I’m looking for an attractive female former high jumper (I won’t even have to open the door, she will fly in through the window). She’s got to be very wealthy, like riding in buckboard wagons, and racing down mountain passes at breakneck speed (completely under control though) Only “with” the cruise control on. She has to own an estate with 10’ garage openings, and enjoys the smell of diesel fuel, and exhaust! I hope to meet her as soon as it’s safe to travel.
I’ve told my lovely wife she’s out. She can’t compete due to her titanium hip. She can keep the house with the low garage door openings.
I have justifiable cause, as I refuse to only stay in hotels while traveling!! I’m keeping the AS, I bought foolishly thinking it could be pulled by my Tundra. I intend to buy an F750 MegaCab Z-71 High Sierra Power Turbo with 2,000 pounds of torque and will be pushing 1,000 HP once I get it tuned and chipped.
Why o why do I open tow vehicle threads?

Just kidding! Happy Easter Everyone! Indeed, to each their own.

Jeff

Lol

F750 [emoji2957]

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by GettinAway

Why o why do I open tow vehicle threads?

Just kidding! Happy Easter Everyone! Indeed, to each their own.

Jeff

Because you cannot, with a straight face, take them all that serious.
It's a Guy thing..."It's mine and it's the best."

Bob
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[kscherzi]

Originally Posted by BobnGayl

Doing so down a curvy 12% road is a person looking for a Darwin Award. And 12%? Where do you even find one like that..?

I don't know where you can find a curvy 12% road, but I know where a long curvy 24% grade road is. East side of Ebbetts pass in the Sierra Nevada's, California Highway 4.

It's one of the five legs of the infamous Death Ride. But a F250 with its bigger brakes and powerful engine should be able to handle it nicely.

[Countryboy59]

Originally Posted by vintageracer

How the Hell did this thread git to a discussion of carbon emissions and all this other crap when the OP's question is:

"So I guess a 1/2-ton truck is enough"

Dunno. Was just answering another post. Could give a rip about carbon personally or I’d drive a Prius.

[Daquenzer]

Originally Posted by kscherzi

I don't know where you can find a curvy 12% road, but I know where a long curvy 24% grade road is. East side of Ebbetts pass in the Sierra Nevada's, California Highway 4.

It's one of the five legs of the infamous Death Ride. But a F250 with its bigger brakes and powerful engine should be able to handle it nicely.

Yikes. But it says vehicles over 25’ not advised. I will take the advise and avoid.

[Profxd]

Originally Posted by Profxd

When it comes to towing, safety and stability should be priority #1. Not things like, does it fit in a garage, poor fuel mileage, it rides too rough. These things begin to compromise what’s important so maybe you should reevaluate what your doing and maybe stay in hotels instead.

“Begin” is the key word in the statement, it’s quite amusing how you guys twist it around to the logical extreme.

[r carl]

Originally Posted by Profxd

“Begin” is the key word in the statement, it’s quite amusing how you guys twist it around to the logical extreme.

Idle Hands Are The Devil’s Workshop.