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Old 03-29-2020, 05:30 PM   #41
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Here's where my camera lives.

Inside and out of the weather.
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Old 03-30-2020, 01:53 PM   #42
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The through the glass camera is an alternative. It is a cost effective way to get a rear view image. It even may be the best way to get an RF signal to a receiver in the TV, because it can be a line of sight communication path, at least until you turn.

However, look at the posted image. What you see is the reflection of trees and other things outside the trailer. The more glass that is between the camera and the required image, the more distortion you get. Generally works well in daylight. Not so good at night when headlights scatter glare across the window. When the sun is directly behind, the glare is not at all helpful.

We started with a through the back glass camera. It was about $200 from Rear View Camera. Required a Suction cup bracket to locate the camera and a 12 volt power source. We used a battery jump start pack and finally a lithium power pack. Better to run a cable to the trailer 12 volt supply. We went with the through the glass solution, because it was a quick and easy DIY project, with no risk of shell leaks. We used that system until we could afford a Voyager trailer mounted system similar to OEM, but with a 7 inch monitor. It was dealer installed as we really were concerned about leaks.

The use of a very high resolution camera might be a very good solution. That is what Tesla has designed into the Semi truck they will build. But a through the looking glass solution still has to deal with moisture and glare distortion. Doubt a high resolution camera is cost effective vs $200 or less for a good mirror system. However, there will be great solutions developed and a rear view camera does help. Just do not go without good mirrors. It's a package deal.

Hope you figure it out. Pat
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:26 AM   #43
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Rear camera

I use swift hitch camera on trailers back window and I phone or tablet, no wires
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:27 AM   #44
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We had McKesh mirrors and abandoned them after a couple of hardware breakages and when we bought a new truck that had smaller gaps around the door edges - the clamp-hooks on the mirror straps were too thick to clear the gap when the door was closed, damaging the surface of the door sills. One tow vehicle later, one trailer later, and after several mirror types, we now have Dometic clamp-on mirrors (I’m sure they are available under different brand names) that use quite thin brackets to clip to the TV door mirrors. Some attempt at a streamlined shape means they vibrate less than others we have tried.
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:53 AM   #45
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For hitching-up, I always use my so-called Hitchin' Rods. Easy - always a solo job, no spotter needed. No arguments! OEM back-up camera and rear view mirror help. https://www.hitchinrods.com/ Available on Amazon. Try it, you'll like it.
Those are cool! I have never seen them before!
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Old 04-01-2020, 12:45 PM   #46
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I use these on my 2013 Expedition, work very well. I think I got them on Amazon in the end. no problem with vibrations or moving when in motion.

https://www.milenco.com/products/mir...-3-xxl-mirrors
We also use the Milenco mirrors on our 2015 Range Rover Sport for towing our 2019 16' Bambi Sport. They are easy to install and adjust. And they give you an excellent view of what's going on traffic wise to the rear and each side. Adjusted correctly one can see around the AS you are towing. Also, minimal vibration and they stay put. There are many models and variations; go the their website and look around for the ones that will work for your TV
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:13 PM   #47
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In my opinion, McKesh are the best towing mirrors available
No holes have to be drilled and they mount securely when properly adjusted
I have used them on 3 different pickups when towing different travel trailers
The only issue I have is nuts have to be tightened periodically on mirrors to prevent viewing angle from changing
They offer a wide view and are very easy to take on and off
The manufacturer is in Oregon and they are still available
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:20 PM   #48
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I have a 2019 Expedition and looked into a rear view camera for my 25' AS. I ended up buying "strap on" K-source mirrors from eTrailer (https://www.etrailer.com/Custom-Towi...eID=2019101306). They're a double mirror so you end up with 3 views including the OE mirrors on the vehicle. They vibrate a little but still get a good view out the back.

I attach a photo I took on the road for other reasons but it shows the 3 views taken a little higher than my eyes (so the image is a little lower). According to CIPA, who make custom mirrors for some TVs, they do not make custom mirrors for Expys (Expy mirrors are different than F150 mirrors).

There are entire forums on rear view cameras.
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:36 PM   #49
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I have a 2019 Expedition and looked into a rear view camera for my 25' AS. I ended up buying "strap on" K-source mirrors from eTrailer (https://www.etrailer.com/Custom-Towi...eID=2019101306). They're a double mirror so you end up with 3 views including the OE mirrors on the vehicle. They vibrate a little but still get a good view out the back.

I attach a photo I took on the road for other reasons but it shows the 3 views taken a little higher than my eyes (so the image is a little lower). According to CIPA, who make custom mirrors for some TVs, they do not make custom mirrors for Expys (Expy mirrors are different than F150 mirrors).

There are entire forums on rear view cameras.
Those are the same ones I bought and thought that either they were going to fall off or, if they were not threatening to fall of, they vibrated so much that I didn't see much value to them. Perhaps I need to be more persistent in trying to make them work. But a rear view camera on the trailer seems like a superior solution.
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Old 04-01-2020, 11:23 PM   #50
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Best rear view solution Iíve found

We pull a 2015 23FB with a 2019 Ford Ranger. Clamp on mirrors help (even tho we lost one), but we found an incredible solution to seeing behind our AS. I bought a HD Wireless Backup Camera. Attached the camera on the license plate light will a nylon tie, wired to the light and voila. Perfect view of everything behind me on the monitor set on the dashboard every time I turn on my parking lights . Amazon has them (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GDKFH9V..._t1_B07FLZ1HSQ) reasonably. You can do it yourself if youíre comfortable with a soldering iron. Iíve found it very comforting knowing what was behind me, in all lanes.
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Old 04-02-2020, 08:57 AM   #51
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We pull a 2015 23FB with a 2019 Ford Ranger. Clamp on mirrors help (even tho we lost one), but we found an incredible solution to seeing behind our AS. I bought a HD Wireless Backup Camera. Attached the camera on the license plate light will a nylon tie, wired to the light and voila. Perfect view of everything behind me on the monitor set on the dashboard every time I turn on my parking lights . Amazon has them (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GDKFH9V..._t1_B07FLZ1HSQ) reasonably. You can do it yourself if youíre comfortable with a soldering iron. Iíve found it very comforting knowing what was behind me, in all lanes.
I was hoping to avoid having another monitor in the truck, but maybe this is the better solution. How good is the video on that system? Lag?
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Old 04-02-2020, 03:08 PM   #52
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The McKesh mirrors are the best. I have used them on several different tow vehicles with different trailers
Easy to take on and off and offer great rear vision of trailer
They used to be based in Scapoose Oregon but believe now owned by Hensley
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I was hoping to avoid having another monitor in the truck, but maybe this is the better solution. How good is the video on that system? Lag?
The monitor is a little bit darker than ideal IMHO, and will infrequently briefly blink out, but overall does a very good job of showing the view behind the AS. It was a PITA figuring out how to attach it to the license plate light. I tried using double sided tape initially without success, but using the zip tie worked like a charm. Iím very pleased with it now.
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