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06-27-2007, 09:31 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
1979 23' Safari
Centerville
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Newbie question about TV
Good evening all. I spent a lot of time researching on the tow vehicle thread but didn't quite see my situation addressed. Currently have just acquired a 79 Safari International and like most of my dilemnas I got the cart in front of the horse(i.e., no suitable tow vehicle) Seems I've seen lots about 19,25,28 and 31's but couldn't really find much about suitable TV's for the 23'. The AS site shows an EW of 3905 but I doubt this includes the 3 awnings or roof a/c unit so a good weighing is in order. I would imagine I'll find it's closer to 4400# so I imagine I can plan on around 5200 # minimally. I currently reside in the Dayton OH area and am planning on trips the first couple of years of no more than a 500 mile radius, that is it's relatively flat.
Currently am considering 4-6 yr old chevy/gmc 1500 ext cabs with 5.7 engine. I'll stand back now and politely listen to what people who seem to have a good grasp on this have to say. Thanx in advance for any help.
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06-27-2007, 10:17 PM
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2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I think that you are in the ball park for that weight class with the TV that you are considering.
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06-27-2007, 10:36 PM
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Rivet Master 
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,837
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeftec
Good evening all. I spent a lot of time researching on the tow vehicle thread but didn't quite see my situation addressed. Currently have just acquired a 79 Safari International and like most of my dilemnas I got the cart in front of the horse(i.e., no suitable tow vehicle) Seems I've seen lots about 19,25,28 and 31's but couldn't really find much about suitable TV's for the 23'. The AS site shows an EW of 3905 but I doubt this includes the 3 awnings or roof a/c unit so a good weighing is in order. I would imagine I'll find it's closer to 4400# so I imagine I can plan on around 5200 # minimally. I currently reside in the Dayton OH area and am planning on trips the first couple of years of no more than a 500 mile radius, that is it's relatively flat.
Currently am considering 4-6 yr old chevy/gmc 1500 ext cabs with 5.7 engine. I'll stand back now and politely listen to what people who seem to have a good grasp on this have to say. Thanx in advance for any help.
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Jeftec,
I have a 1979 Safari also, the gross weight on the tag is 5800 lbs. I use either my 1973 Dodge W200 Power Wagon with a 360 2V (aka 5.9L) or my 1977 Lincoln Continental with a 460 4V (aka 7.5L). I think that you will be fine with the chevy/gmc. Just be prepared to slow down on the hills, but then there are not many in Ohio.
Bill
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1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
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06-28-2007, 12:22 AM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeftec
Good evening all. I spent a lot of time researching on the tow vehicle thread but didn't quite see my situation addressed. Currently have just acquired a 79 Safari International and like most of my dilemnas I got the cart in front of the horse(i.e., no suitable tow vehicle) Seems I've seen lots about 19,25,28 and 31's but couldn't really find much about suitable TV's for the 23'. The AS site shows an EW of 3905 but I doubt this includes the 3 awnings or roof a/c unit so a good weighing is in order. I would imagine I'll find it's closer to 4400# so I imagine I can plan on around 5200 # minimally. I currently reside in the Dayton OH area and am planning on trips the first couple of years of no more than a 500 mile radius, that is it's relatively flat.
Currently am considering 4-6 yr old chevy/gmc 1500 ext cabs with 5.7 engine. I'll stand back now and politely listen to what people who seem to have a good grasp on this have to say. Thanx in advance for any help.
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I tow a 63 Overlander that weighs 5100lbs travel ready, but without food.
My 1997 5.7l Suburban does just fine with this trailer, so I am assuming that a pickup will do even better due to the reduced weight of the pickup vs. the Suburban.
Key is to get a pickup with the factory towing package, and a min. rear end ratio of 3:73 better even with a 4:10 ratio, if you can find it.
Expect 12mpg towing, 15 around town, and perhaps up to 18 hwy, depending on how fast you want to go.
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06-28-2007, 08:30 AM
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1 Rivet Short
1989 25' Excella
By The Bay
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,608
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uwe
I tow a 63 Overlander that weighs 5100lbs travel ready, but without food.
My 1997 5.7l Suburban does just fine with this trailer, so I am assuming that a pickup will do even better due to the reduced weight of the pickup vs. the Suburban.
Key is to get a pickup with the factory towing package, and a min. rear end ratio of 3:73 better even with a 4:10 ratio, if you can find it.
Expect 12mpg towing, 15 around town, and perhaps up to 18 hwy, depending on how fast you want to go.
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FYI; 1/2 ton Suburbans almost always have greater towing capacities than comparable 1/2 ton pickups...
Yes, this surprised me too. I have owned (2) 1/2 ton Subys and several 1/2 ton pickups...
Having said that, if the weights listed above are accurate, you will be OK with the 1/2 ton truck. Not over-powered, but OK.
Bill
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06-28-2007, 09:03 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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I think your in good shape.
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06-28-2007, 09:11 AM
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Rivet Master 
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Make double sure the one you choose has the tow package. The rear end ratio is usually on that tag in the door jam.
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AIR# 13896
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06-28-2007, 09:17 AM
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USN/LAPD Retired
2005 25' Safari
North Las Vegas
, United States
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 850
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You'll have more then enough HP and torque to pull a 23 foot.
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