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Old 01-18-2016, 04:50 PM   #21
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Congratulations on your new f150. You are going to love it. We have a 14 with a 5.0 and love it too. The only time I wish we had the ecoboost is when we are above 10,000'. That is when I am sure yours would really be stronger than ours. We to lock out 6th and sometimes 5th. It has a 3.55 rear end. There is nothing like the room in a supercrew. Some people on here are talking about the new ridgelin by honda. I can't imagine traveling in one of those for very far. Did you get the 36 gallon tank? I hope so. Ours has a range here in the Colorado mountains of 400 miles. Good luck
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Old 02-15-2016, 11:12 AM   #22
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I am expecting delivery in a few days of a '16 Screw/6.5 bed/3.5/3.55/36 gal tank. I have been reading a bit here and there about engine braking. I'm towing a 25' classic. I am wondering, considering no sharp curves, how much of a grade can it handle? Is it best in the steeper grades to boost the trailer brakes to help out?
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Old 02-15-2016, 11:45 AM   #23
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Use tow/haul, shift to second if you need it, and start slow before you get into the grade, And yes, boosting the trailer brakes helps a lot!
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:34 PM   #24
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Congratulations! I've been enjoying mine since July.

As far as competition goes, something to note that is HUGE on your new TV is that just under 75% of the torque is on standby at highway speed with that engine/transmission compared to the competition's 42%. That equates to much less shifting and revving even in hills.

The new truck, at least in my experience from the '09 F150 with the same transmission, has a much more aggressive engine braking. I noticed it immediately on my first tow. In tow/haul mode I may be wrong but I do not believe it shifts to sixth. I haven't towed in hills with the new truck but with the '09 (same trans) to activate engine braking you tapped the brakes twice when in tow/haul.

If you saw the recent cars.com 1/2 ton max tow competition notice how they only ran them off but did not compare the tow experience- hilly ground, shifting/gear hunting, etc. Add to that the issues with suspension that their winner has being reported AND the Consumer Report ranking and you get a different picture. I truly believe you made the right decision. Enjoy.

on 10-speed, I read one article on it and the planned use of the gears. In a nutshell they plan to use two gears specifically to tighten up 0-40 acceleration and keep the RPMs lower for MPG. Nothing was mentioned about the last two gears so towing or what it will be like would be a guess.
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Old 02-29-2016, 01:12 AM   #25
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We have a 14' EB with the 3:73 rear diff. I let the truck decide which gear it likes in the Tow/Haul mode and everything runs smoothly. The Tow/Haul mode does an excellent job both UP and DOWN hills in controlling the truck/trailer. Very pleased with it.

And Ditto on the power running boards. We spent the $$ and it is significantly easier to enter/exit the truck for us OLD people. They are lower when deployed than the fixed steps are.

Hi, I also have a 2014 Ecoboost with 3:73 gears. No need to lock out sixth gear. When towing my 25'er, I use Tow / Haul mode. Mine is a pulling monster; Holds whatever speed I set it at up every mountain I hit so far. First trip was over 13,000 miles and across this big country.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:29 PM   #26
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My '16 XLT 3.5 screw, etc. etc. came in a few days ago and I've driven around 100 miles or so to get used to it. Wonderful so far. Looking fwd to towing. I read that most engines (I think diesel included) lose 3% HP per each 1K feet above sea level, but not the EB engine.
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Old 02-29-2016, 11:42 PM   #27
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I read that most engines (I think diesel included) lose 3% HP per each 1K feet above sea level, but not the EB engine.
Most naturally aspirated engines lose around 3% per 1000 feet of altitude. Turbocharged engines, whether gasoline or diesel, do not, within the limitations of turbocharger rotational speed.
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Old 03-06-2016, 05:28 AM   #28
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I'm late to this F150 party, but I see you got your XLT Sport! Congrats, and I know you'll be pleased. As you've seen me post before, we love our '15 F150 for towing our 27FB. We just planned 12 days up through North Georgia and into Western North Carolina for first week of June, So we'll soon get to enjoy the EB drivetrain in some real grades.

FWIW - I'd be willing to bet your tongue weight on that 22' CCD is more like 700 lbs, especially loaded, since you want at least 12% hitch weight for safe towing, but again, you should be fine on payload. Enjoy your first tow!
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:01 AM   #29
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Shiny, what's the tongue weight on your 27fb?

I have the same unit but the TW is escaping me at the moment
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:39 AM   #30
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Shiny, what's the tongue weight on your 27fb?

I have the same unit but the TW is escaping me at the moment

I weighed the tongue on my 27FB flying cloud when empty and with "almost" a full propane load. Can't remember the number but it was within 5% of factory spec. And I figure using bathroom scale method is not any more accurate than that anyway. Specs are on the airstream site.

But some on the forums have seen weights a lot higher than spec. That is why I weighed mine. Also obtained axle weights when fully loaded so I could adjust WD hitch. J


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Old 03-08-2016, 11:08 AM   #31
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Plasma800 -

Our Pete, a Flying Cloud 27FB has a tongue weight right around 950 lbs. I've never weighed it with anything other than bath scale method, but based on ProPride jack settings and truck attitude, it doesn't change much trip to trip. Of course that could vary widely owner to owner based on packing.

We pretty much load it identically whether we're doing a 3 night weekend or 10+ night trip (maybe a few more clothes for longer trip). Having made 4 trips to the barn this morning, my arms say we load about 200 lbs on for a trip in addition to the 300 lbs that stay's in Pete all the time.

Hope this helps.
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i guess that sounds about right, for some reason i had it in my mind around 400-700, but I'm way off.

My sticker on my 15 ford says right around 1500 lbs of payload, and that's with the max tow package. I haven't tried towing with it yet as I still have the hitch all setup for my 2500hd, but the wife and I are considering a month long excursion in the summer, and I just "like" the Ford more than my base model chevy...

but it almost seems like I might be pushing it? maybe not, all that's in the truck really would be me, her, two 20 lb dogs and probably a generator and some other light junk.

We travel light in the trailer, that's for sure. We still have yet to store a single thing under the bed, as a for instance.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:01 PM   #33
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Our Pete, a Flying Cloud 27FB has a tongue weight right around 950 lbs. I've never weighed it with anything other than bath scale method, but based on ProPride jack settings and truck attitude, it doesn't change much trip to trip. Of course that could vary widely owner to owner based on packing.

We pretty much load it identically whether we're doing a 3 night weekend or 10+ night trip (maybe a few more clothes for longer trip). Having made 4 trips to the barn this morning, my arms say we load about 200 lbs on for a trip in addition to the 300 lbs that stay's in Pete all the time.

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i guess that sounds about right, for some reason i had it in my mind around 400-700, but I'm way off.

My sticker on my 15 ford says right around 1500 lbs of payload, and that's with the max tow package. I haven't tried towing with it yet as I still have the hitch all setup for my 2500hd, but the wife and I are considering a month long excursion in the summer, and I just "like" the Ford more than my base model chevy...

but it almost seems like I might be pushing it? maybe not, all that's in the truck really would be me, her, two 20 lb dogs and probably a generator and some other light junk.

We travel light in the trailer, that's for sure. We still have yet to store a single thing under the bed, as a for instance.
Hi, [just for comparison] My 25' Safari has a tongue weight of 900 lbs. My 2014 F-150 has the Max Tow package and a payload of 1,745 lbs. It is my wife and I and ONE 20 lb dog. I also have a generator, tools and supplies in the bed. Our first trip with my new F-150 was a cross country trip for 3 1/2 months and over 13,000 miles towing our trailer. It was a fantastic trip and my F-150 did a great job towing. There was never a lack of power.
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:21 PM   #34
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Hey all, just a quick update - first trip wth the F150 this weekend and I gotta say - it was a BREEZE. The only real complaint I have is that when towing in the Ozarks where we live. and have a lot of short steep hills and curves, the downshifting in the Tow/Haul mode was annoying and not very smooth. Other than that, we went about 85 miles each way and most of the time could not tell I had a trailer hooked up. Also pulled a couple of steep grades (probably 10-12%) a mile or two long and it sat in 3rd gear at about 2500 rpm. Got about 12 mpg without much open road.
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Old 04-03-2016, 04:22 PM   #35
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We returned last week from SW FL. We have a '15 F-150 Screw w/ 5.5' box and the 3.5 Ecoboost engine. As usual, we pulled our '02 Classic w/ slide. Its about 8400 # empty and ~9000 w/ FW tank full. I have pulled this trailer with my '10 F-150 w/ 5.4 V8 to FL 6 times. There is very little similarity between the V8 and the Ecoboost! The Ecoboost is a pulling fool! It would be a gear higher and often 1,000 rpm less than the 5.4 would be when in the hilly areas. I tow faster than most here on the forum. I run 71-72 mph on the interstates, so my mileage is not any better than the 5.4 at around 8-9.5 mpg. But the performance is simply amazing! I liked my '10 F-150 a LOT but I LOVE this truck - and so does my wife!!!!

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EcoBoost Fuel Consumption

What kind of mileage should a person expect with a 2016 F150 3.5 EcoBoost and 30 ft. FC, driving reasonably around the country?

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If you plan on 10 mpg you will be pretty close. While some engine/transmission combinations are slightly more efficient than others, it still takes "X" amount of energy to move your TV and Trailer down the road.

Diesel fuel has higher energy density per gallon so those motors get higher mpg.

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Thanks to the info shared on this thread I am actively shopping for a 2013/2014 F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I've found a tempting example but the Ford window sticker for this particular VIN indicates that the truck has the "Trailer Package" (as opposed to the Max Tow) and standard 3.31 axle. I assume that the axle is not of the limited slip or locking variety.

What are your opinions on this? Is it worth waiting for a vehicle with the max tow and/or the lower axle ratio? I plan to pull a 25FB.
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It would help a lot if you told us what size trailer you intend to tow. It would also be a good idea to look at the loading sticker on the driver's side door jamb and check the payload.

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Thanks to the info shared on this thread I am actively shopping for a 2013/2014 F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I've found a tempting example but the Ford window sticker for this particular VIN indicates that the truck has the "Trailer Package" (as opposed to the Max Tow) and standard 3.31 axle. I assume that the axle is not of the limited slip or locking variety.

What are your opinions on this? Is it worth waiting for a vehicle with the max tow and/or the lower axle ratio? I plan to pull a 25FB.

Hi, Max Tow should give you 3:73's, tow mirrors, and a higher payload. You can change the mirrors. You can lock out sixth gear with the 3:31's. But you cannot change the payload.
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