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Old 08-06-2020, 04:55 AM   #21
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I had a 1997 Dodge Ram ¾ ton (purchased new) and it was by far the worst vehicle I've ever owned. Blew a radiator hose the first weekend. Had 5 transmission rebuilds by 37,000 miles. I have never returned to Chrysler since that truck bit me.
I recently bought a leftover a 2019 Ford F-150 Max Tow Platinum. My Tundra could tow something like 9,800# and this F-150 is rated for 12,700#.
I tow a 27' Globetrotter. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 08-06-2020, 08:04 PM   #22
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Moved up to a 2019 2500 Laramie from a 2016 1500 EcoDiesel, to tow our FC25. The 1500 worked, barely.
The 2500 Cummins rocks! Power and control to spare, and the ram interior is quieter and more comfortable than the Ford F-250. Payload is excellent.
I also like and appreciate all the safety tech Ram offers, as well as the big screen and many cameras.
The power running boards and bed step are worth their Weight in gold!

Don’t like the cheesy OEM tires, but that’s an easy fix.
I’m tall, and the visibility is not great from my perspective - but all the brands are about the same.
Several recalls so far in less than a year. A couple still pending due to lack of parts. Not sure if the other brands are the same. Dealer takes care of the issues though.

Good luck of your purchase!
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Old 08-07-2020, 01:35 AM   #23
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We moved from towing with a Mercedes GL450 to RAM2500, so interiors and comfort were on top of our must-have list, and the 2019RAM2500 didn't disappoint. RAM trucks are great now. RAM1500 has the new cab, which is much better with a flat floor and more legroom, it also has the BlindSpot monitor for the trailer, but doesn't have the payload. AS can be far heavier than the specified tongue weights, so having a good payload brings peace of mind. We also wanted to leave room in the payload in case we decided to upgrade our AS to a bigger one, so we chose 2500. We also went with Hemi instead of Diesel, mainly due to engine noise and the payload, although Diesel engines now are pretty quiet compared to what they used to be, the noise factor not just inside the cab, but outside also was important to us. The trade-off, of course, is that we now don't have exhaust brakes.
  • We love:
    -Interiors
    -12" Screen
    -Surround Camera
    -Front Grill looks
    -Blindspot mirrors are power adjustable
    -RAM boxes are awesome for storing AS stuff like pipe, surge protector, Equalizer Hitch bars, etc.
    -It's a couple inches shorter than F250, so fits in the garage better.
  • Opportunity for improvement:
    -Should have flat floor in the cab
    -Should have full middle rear seat, it's not as deep as the side rear seats
    -Can have better bed step
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Old 09-02-2020, 12:42 PM   #24
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jeffmc306 Can you give more details on why not the eTorque? What payload were you looking for when looking at the RAM 1500? What were you finding?

Was payload the main reason you went with the 2500 vs 1500?
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:37 AM   #25
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jeffmc306 Can you give more details on why not the eTorque? What payload were you looking for when looking at the RAM 1500? What were you finding?

Was payload the main reason you went with the 2500 vs 1500?
Txforetravel, the eTorque does not provide enough fuel savings to justify the cost in my opinion. It also adds to the complexity and potential future repair cost. The guys at Fast Lane Trucks had a RAM 1500 Rebel with the eTorque Hemi and found it didn’t do much for fuel efficiency. Once you’re moving, it doesn’t add any power.

When we initially went shopping for the RAM 1500 I took the Airstream brochure with us and showed the salesperson the tongue weight of our 27’ GT. I told him to plan on 1000 lbs and allow another 800 for cargo and passengers. He found a truck on another dealer’s lot with 1840 lbs. payload (according to the RAM provided details on his computer).

Everything was fine until Gypsydad from the Forums said “check the door sticker”. My heart sunk when we found it only had 1220 lbs. payload. The salesperson couldn’t believe it either... Turns out the factory’s data didn’t match the actual. NOTE: It does now after our salesperson pushed this problem all the way up to corporate and they bought back the truck.

We actually did get to tow the GT with the RAM 1500 and go to the CAT scales. It was right on the line of being over on the rear axle’s max of 4100 lbs. The truck had plenty of power but did get pushed around on the highway compared to the 2500.

We have not regretted making the move up to the 2500 gas.

Hope that helps!
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Old 09-03-2020, 09:03 AM   #26
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Jeff,

Did you have a WD on your trailer/RAM 1500 when you did drive it?

If so, was that rear axle reading at the CAT scales with the WD in place and distributing your load among the TT axles and the RAM 1500 front and rear axles?

Thanks.

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Old 09-03-2020, 09:21 AM   #27
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Everything was fine until Gypsydad from the Forums said “check the door sticker”. My heart sunk when we found it only had 1220 lbs. payload.
I was surprised how many pickups I found with light payload, a lot of them with far less than 1,220 pounds.

I ended up with an SUV, the Ford Expedition, which had more payload (1450+) than almost any of the half-ton trucks I saw on the lots. Go figure.

Even some of the F-250/Chevy 2500 trucks were not heavyweights, when it came to the door sticker.
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Old 09-03-2020, 12:41 PM   #28
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Jeff,

Did you have a WD on your trailer/RAM 1500 when you did drive it?

If so, was that rear axle reading at the CAT scales with the WD in place and distributing your load among the TT axles and the RAM 1500 front and rear axles?

Thanks.

Cheers,

Bryan
Hi Bryan, yes I used a Blue Ox SwayPro initially with 1000 lbs. bars. We couldn’t shift enough weight to give us the cushion needed. I really wanted the RAM 1500 to work out so I bought a set of 1500 lbs. bars to see if they would move more weight since the tongue weight was 1100 lbs. loaded. There was little difference.

NOTE: I found out later that Blue Ox recommends a Class V hitch (2.5” receiver) when using 1500 lbs. bars. Three quarter ton trucks typically have a Class V hitch.

By the way, Andy from Can-Am has mentioned he hasn’t had a lot of luck shifting weight with the Blue Ox and that’s why he prefers Eaz-Lift.

I’ve since moved back to the 1000 lbs. bars with the RAM 2500 and reduced the trailer tire pressure to 65 PSI from 80 (added TST TPMS). I found this to be a “sweet spot” for towing - no sway and the trailer doesn’t bounce around like it did with 80 PSI.

Attached is a table with the CAT scale readings from the RAM 1500 and 2500. The RAM 1500’s axle ratings are 3900 front and 4100 rear. The RAM 2500’s axle ratings are 5500 front and 6300 rear. Payload went from 1220 to 2940. Big difference!

Hope that helps.
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Old 09-04-2020, 08:33 AM   #29
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Thanks for all the info! Helps a great deal on TV selection with the exact same AS. I guess I'm off to look and drive RAM 2500's now.
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Old 09-04-2020, 09:44 AM   #30
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I just spent three day dealing with Ram salespeople. Truck is great but six salepeople did not understand max Payload vs max towing. I looked at 6 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 V8 and the 3.92 rear end. What I saw on the door sticker was the max payload went from 1310 lbs to 1818 lbs, for the same model truck. Just watch what the salepeople try and talk you into don't take their word on anything you can't see. I drive a F 150 XLT but will be going to a RAM once they find me one with the correct payload rating of 1800lbs minimum.
And none know the relevance of axle and tire load ratings in regard to 'payload'.

Take that the sticker with a grain of salt...concentrate on actual load ratings.

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Old 09-04-2020, 12:57 PM   #31
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I have a 2015 RAM 1500, but it didn't have the payload capacity to tow our 2020 26RBT. Our Bighorn trim level with the 5.7L and RAM boxes has less than 1300 pounds cargo capacity.

So we decided to purchase a 2020 RAM 2500 Longhorn. I factory ordered it with exactly the options we wanted. It has the 6.4L gas engine, with 8 speed transmission. Has towed very nicely for about the 1000 miles we've done so far.

The 12" screen is nice - I like 'splitting' the view with the GPS running as well as the radio display at the same time.
The safety and technology groups are nice, in particular the Adaptive Cruise control, the blind spot detection that automatically includes the Airstream in it's view, and the Surround view cameras, which makes parking a bit easier.
I also like the fact that you can get power outside convex mirrors (included in some of the packages). It's very handy if you move the mirrors back and forth from the 'trailer towing' position to the normal position. On my 2015, it was impossible to adjust the passenger side mirror since my arms aren't 6 feet long.

Trailer TPMS wasn't available when I ordered in January, but it's available now and I would have included it if available.

One option that I would have passed on is the automatic side steps that deploy and then store with every opening and closing of a door. I think I would have preferred just the standard side steps.
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One option that I would have passed on is the automatic side steps that deploy and then store with every opening and closing of a door. I think I would have preferred just the standard side steps.
Ken,
Everyone I know that have these steps and love them. They claim they are reliable. These trucks are tall and the automatic steps swing down further than the standard nerf bar or running board. They have been on my wish list for a long time.
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