New 2015 Ford F-250

[Drathaar]

We have a 2014 F350 that is very close to what Moflash purchased. Excellent truck. 36 gallon tank. Best mileage so far (under 3,000 total miles at this point) was 18.1 mpg on an unloaded trip to the Oregon coast and back. With my 2000 F250 7.3, I was getting a little over 19 mpg unloaded, but it was a super cab, not a crew cab. As the truck gets more miles, I expect milage to increase.

If I recall correctly, we have 400 HP and 800 foot pounds of torque. That's sufficient.

Electronics and navigation is excellent. My only complaint about the electronics, and it would be for any vehicle with this level of automation, is that I tend to take my eyes off the road to tweedle with things on the screen. I haven't gotten used to the controls on the steering wheel yet. My F250 doesn't have anything like this.

One minor thing that I have noticed is that the wiper blades that came with the truck tend to pull water back onto the driver's side windshield in a heavy downpour. Ford replaced the blades, and it's much better.

[Firedog1]

Ditto

[Firedog1]

I did replace the fuel tank with a 50 gallon now can tow 700 miles before I refuel

[KJRitchie]

Did that replace the existing tank and integrate with the electronics? I guess that added about 200lbs compared to an existing full tank?

Kelvin

[Firedog1]

yes it replaced the existing tank and yes it integrated with electronics. I had the Ford dealer do it. They installed the Titan 50 gallon tank and reprogramed the computer to recognize 50 gallons. works perfectly. Took less than 3 hours, I waited while they did it.

[Ampman]

2012 6.2l crew 4x4. Empty I get 14-15. Towing around 8k lbs I get 11-12. Great electronics. Navigation is ok until you get way off the road. Would buy again but not for many years. Can't afford to get a new truck every few years. Diesels are great if you tow over 10k and trade every few years. Couldn't afford to own one past the warranty period. There's something for everybody all you have to do is sign on the dotted line.


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[pappy19]

MoFlash says his 6.7 Ford diesel is as cheap to maintain as an F-150 is smoking something. An F-150 Ecoboost is about $50 every 7500 miles for an oil change and $15 for a fuel filter every 15k. An oil change on a 6.7 is $100-150 depending on who does it and the fuel filters are $100+. Add that to the additional cost of the diesel over gasoline, plus the initial cost of the diesel engine, $8,000, then you have a substantial fence to hurdle before you catch up with an F-150 gas rig.

Again, I think the new 6.7 is a very good engine, with lots of power, but one does not NEED a diesel to tow an AS, all you diesel heads WANT one, and that's ok with me.

[Moflash]

[QUOTE=pappy19;1577027]MoFlash says his 6.7 Ford diesel is as cheap to maintain as an F-150 is smoking something. An F-150 Ecoboost is about $50 every 7500 miles for an oil change and $15 for a fuel filter every 15k. An oil change on a 6.7 is $100-150 depending on who does it and the fuel filters are $100+. Add that to the additional cost of the diesel over gasoline, plus the initial cost of the diesel engine, $8,000, then you have a substantial fence to hurdle before you catch up with an F-150 gas rig.

Again, I think the new 6.7 is a very good engine, with lots of power, but one does not NEED a diesel to tow an AS, all you diesel heads WANT one, and that's ok with me.[/.

Once again a man that speaks from no experience.I have had two 6.7's.in the past 3 years.I have also owned many F150's.My oil changes run $89 including tax.The fuel filter is less than $100 if the dealer installs it.I will install one during my ownership as I trade before I reach 40k and 3 years max.
Running that 3.5 liter turbo v6 7500 miles between oil changes is taking its toll on your engine internals and your turbo bearings by the way.Turbos will actually glow cherry red on full boost breaking down engine oil very quickly.Pinching pennies in this case is hazardous to that expensive little engine.You should be changing at 3-5k not 7500.
I am not a diesel head as you call it.But until they make a F 150 that has a 8ft box for my 2 up Atv and a payload of 3000 lbs plus to safely haul my Airstream along with my gear I will stick to my F350 6.7.

I can afford the extra $39 for a oil change every 3-5k.




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[r carl]

I always wondered why people think they should change their oil at 3-5k. In Europe 12k is normal.

[m.hony]

I have stuck with a 5,000 mile oil change interval for many years.
Our new Toyota Avalon has 0w20 oil and a 10,000 mile oil change interval, but the tire rotation interval is 5,000 miles. I have been rotating tires every 10,000 miles for many years on every vehicle except the tow vehicle. I rotate the tires every 5,000 miles on the tow vehicle due to the tongue weight of the Airstream.
I will stick with the 10,000 mile oil change and 5,000 mile tire rotation on our new Toyota Avalon because it has synthetic oil and Michelin tires.
I once got 130,000 miles out of a set of Michelins on a Chevy Express van.

[tjdonahoe]

My dodge with 6.7 takes 3 gallon of oil ,which costs $40 and a $7 Baldwin filter, fuel filter is $30 ,which I change every fall , oil is changed every 4500 to 5000 miles and we got 85000 miles with no problems, no town driving or idling , 12mpg average to either coast, there is no such thing as too much horsepower or money.....

[ROBERTSUNRUS]

Hi, if I said it once, I said it a thousand times; OK, only a few times. If you have a huge load and / or want a diesel then buy one, but don't try to justify it on cost.

[Moflash]

Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS

Hi, if I said it once, I said it a thousand times; OK, only a few times. If you have a huge load and / or want a diesel then buy one, but don't try to justify it on cost.

Where did that come from???



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[Bill Lynch]

We are in the last days of the internal combustion engine.

They have pretty much perfected them. The Ford Eco Boost is a great setup and was proved by a million mile torture test before they sold the first one.

In a generation from now they will be laughing their butts off at gas or diesel engines. It will be as foreign to them as a Stanley Steamer was to our parents.

Who knows? Maybe the Baker Electric will,be back

[Ampman]

The future of truck engines will be interesting. The last generation would freak out if they could have the tech and power of the engines standard today. Hah, you had to have a big block gas engine with several after market mods to get anything near the power of what's available now. Fuel injection? That was like super exotic and only found on sports cars. Try and find a mechanic that is good with a carburetor now a days. And at best they would only get 8 mpg. Good times for every body, diesel and gas fans. The only thing I miss is being able to work on the new stuff and fix/rebuild myself.


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[tjdonahoe]

If you look out on to the highways you see all them big trucks, they used to be gas jobs , now they are diesel, why is that? The Europeans even burn more diesel than gas...the big ships are transporting diesel from the east coast to Europe and bring gasoline back...

[paiceman]

Drathaar:

Here are the specs for your truck:
6.2.-liter V8
385 horsepower @ 5,500 rpm
405 lb-ft of torque @ 4,500 rpm
EPA city/highway fuel economy: N/A

The F350 Diesel has:

6.7-liter turbocharged diesel V8
440 horsepower @ 2,800 rpm
860 lb-ft of torque @ 1,600 rpm
EPA city/highway fuel economy: N/A

The thing I like about our Diesel is the torque, pulls the 30' off a light or stoplight or up a mountain at about 2,000RPMs or less. Thing I don't like - Fuel Cost and maintenance costs. Thought long, very long and hard about a gasser. Now I hear Ford is going to do away with the 6.2 Gas and come out with a Gas EcoBoost for the Super Duty. Could be interesting. Torque close to a Diesel, expenses of Gas.

My Best

Bud

[paiceman]

To the cost of Diesel:

Owned 2012 6.7 F250 Diesel now Own 2015 6.7 F350 Diesel:

MPG - computer and manual calculations
14.7 Around hilly and city driving - Pittsburgh, PA
13.7 Towing 30' AS Loaded with stuff, empty holding tanks at 65MPH
21.3 NOT towing highway at 70MPH.

Oil changes $89.00
Oil Filter - $11.45
Fuel Filters - $46.50

All done by Ford dealer at every 7,500 miles except when towing then at 5,000 miles

Like someone said do I need a diesel, no, do I want one, yes. At today's fuel costs the diesel is pretty much a push compared to gas with the extra miles per gallon, additional is DEF, which is minimal and slight increase in filter costs. Well worth it for extra power, extra torque and extra stopping power. The 2015 6.7 is much improved even over the 2012.

My Best

Bud

[r carl]

I've always wanted to be able to burn rubber taking off from a stoplight with my camper.

[Ampman]

Good times for all no matter if you drive a gas or oil burner. Too bad they don't make a 6.2l EcoBoost with the twin turbos. I would trade for that. But only if you would be able to work on the engine with out removing the cab like on the PS 6.7. And no I don't own a diesel, just been driving em for the last two and a half decades when they weren't in the shop. Company has been eating all the repairs and maintenance outside of the warranty, except for fuel contamination damages which is a whole other issue. (Bio-Diesel)That's why I own a gasser. It's enough power for me and easy on the wallet. I'm out.


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