New 2015 Ford F-250

[pappy19]

I would be real careful of buying a used diesel, must be something wrong with it to trade it off. I went from owning diesel trucks to a gas F-250 and never happier. A lot less hassle in every regard. Like was stated above, unless you are towing heavy for a lot of miles each year, a diesel doesn't pay for itself with the extra maintenance and fuel costs.

[KJRitchie]

How would you rate the current 6.2L vs your V-10? Is it a step up or down?

Kelvin

[ZBoater]

Originally Posted by saranautilus

Hi guys! After weighing all of the pros and cons, we decided to get the regular gas engine after all. We realize we may have a few limitations but it made the most sense for us personally. Thank you all so very much for helping us make an informed decision!

Congrats! The 6.2L Ford engine is very reliable and has plenty of power. Hope you enjoy it!

P.S. - remember it has two spark plugs per cylinder. Spark plug changes are a bit pricey. Just be prepared.

[pappy19]

Originally Posted by KJRitchie

How would you rate the current 6.2L vs your V-10? Is it a step up or down?

Kelvin

My 2008 V-10 has a 5 speed tranny and the new 6.2's have a 6 speed. I drove one a couple of years ago and it felt about the same as my V-10. Mine has the 4.11 gears and the 6.2 comes with a 3.73 or a 4.30. I would probably get the 4.30 with the new 6.2. I am not sure what rear end the one I drove had.

[pappy19]

The other misconception floating around is that spark plugs on gas engines will last 100,000 miles. Don't believe it. You should change plugs every 50,000 miles. The gap in the new plugs is huge and as they wear, the gap gets larger and larger. I changed mine the first time at 90,ooo miles and it's a wonder those plugs didn't put a hole in the top of my piston, the gap was so large. Ford mechanics that I talk to all recommend plug changes at 50,000 mile intervals.

[TinShack]

Originally Posted by saranautilus

Hi guys! After weighing all of the pros and cons, we decided to get the regular gas engine after all. We realize we may have a few limitations but it made the most sense for us personally. Thank you all so very much for helping us make an informed decision!

Enjoy! Hope you get many miles and a lot of pleasure out of it.

[PaulnGina]

Originally Posted by saranautilus

Hi guys! After weighing all of the pros and cons, we decided to get the regular gas engine after all. We realize we may have a few limitations but it made the most sense for us personally. Thank you all so very much for helping us make an informed decision!

Show us some pictures when you get a chance!

[ROBERTSUNRUS]

Originally Posted by pappy19

The other misconception floating around is that

spark plugs on gas engines will last 100,000 miles.

Don't believe it.

You should change plugs every 50,000 miles. The gap in the new plugs is huge and as they wear, the gap gets larger and larger. I changed mine the first time at 90,ooo miles and

it's a wonder those plugs didn't put a hole in the top of my piston,

the gap was so large. Ford mechanics that I talk to all recommend plug changes at 50,000 mile intervals.

Hi, Ford Motor Company says 100,000 miles for spark plugs;

My Lincoln has 121,000 miles on the original plugs and still runs great.

Foreign material, gas pinging, and overheating puts holes in pistons.

[m.hony]

Most mechanics say never replace spark plugs until it starts to miss- then replace that single spark plug and it's coil pack-
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Spark plugs don't foul like they used to with modern computer controlled engines and clean fuels.
In the coil, distributor, and spark plug wires days, I changed the plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, and rotor every 100,000 miles. I couldn't tell it ran any better, but fuel economy increased. I have driven several vehicles to over 200,000 miles with no I'll effects from changing plugs every 100,000 miles. We have one vehicle in the fleet that was mine first that has 525,000 miles. I have known a couple of people to go over 400,000 or over 500,000 miles. None of them changed spark plugs very often.

[Ampman]

We went from an 04 F250 5.4L to the 12 F250 6.2L. Big improvement. Love the easy maintenance on the gas engine. Has the 35 gallon tank. Plenty of power and no complaints. I tow a 25' Classic and an 8k Bobcat skidsteer with it. Been driving light duty fleet diesels for work for two decades. Fords, GM and Dodges. All of them have great torque and could pull a house when they weren't in the shop. All of them were shop queens and several had to have engine replacements. Last two were 2011 PS F450's due to broke crankshafts(faulty castings). Most problems seem to have been from the big three using the customer as a test bed for new designs. Like the 6.0 PS or the exhaust filter systems they have been experimenting with. If you need to tow over 10k then a diesel is better suited. Below 10k all the gas offerings work just fine. Gas works for me. Diesels work for others. Theirs something for everyone. If buying used past the factory warranty on a diesel then pay the extra bucks for an extended warranty on the drive train. It will pay for itself.


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[KJRitchie]

I decide to look at a 2015 F250 XLTS 4x4 CC 6.5' bed today while the dealer was closed. Compared to the diesel models next to it this gas version seem to be several inches higher. There were several more inches of ground clearance at the hitch receiver and between the tires and fender than on the diesels and they both had the same 18" tires. I know the diesel engine is is a few hundred pounds heavier than the gas engine but is the suspension lower than the gas versions?

This 2015 gas F250 had the snow plow package. Would that account for the extra height. I thought the would just order this package to get the 200 amp alternator.

Kelvin

[cwf]

Enjoy!
This is our first diesel... and, it is awesome...

[KJRitchie]

Originally Posted by KJRitchie

I decide to look at a 2015 F250 XLTS 4x4 CC 6.5' bed today while the dealer was closed. Compared to the diesel models next to it this gas version seem to be several inches higher. There were several more inches of ground clearance at the hitch receiver and between the tires and fender than on the diesels and they both had the same 18" tires. I know the diesel engine is is a few hundred pounds heavier than the gas engine but is the suspension lower than the gas versions?

This 2015 gas F250 had the snow plow package. Would that account for the extra height. I thought the would just order this package to get the 200 amp alternator.

Kelvin

Here is a couple of photos from the dealership of the diesel F250 (1st photo) and gas F250, both XLTs

[pappy19]

Do what you will, but towing trailers is different on an engine then just a grocery getter. I just know on my wife's 2007 Lincoln LT 5.4, I changed her plugs at 60k and some of the plugs were good and a couple were not so good. My 6.8 V-10 plugs were changed at 90k and glad I didn't wait any longer.

[DKB_SATX]

Kelvin:

It's extra confusing because I'd expect the FX4 to have more ground clearance than the regular 4x4 package.

Perhaps they have different payload packages? If you noted or photographed the VIN of each truck you can look up their window stickers... (or of course if you photographed the window sticker itself you can look at the payload package there.) The difference doesn't seem like much, but apparently the '15 F250 4x4 is available with a 9,900 lb or 10,000 lb GVWR, so there may be a ride-height difference between the 2. The spec page lists 2 heights (about 2.6" apart), for example, but doesn't say WHY.

[KJRitchie]

VIN for the diesel is 1FT7W2BT5FEA39162. 10000 GVWR pkg, camper pkg, FX4 pkg.

VIN for the gas is 1FT7W2B61FEC12380. 10000 GVWR pkg, snow plow pkg, 12.5k trailer hitch

All I can think of is the snow plow pkg and 12.5k trailer hitch pkg must raise the body on the gas version. This truck sits way too high and looks and probably drives top heavy.

Kelvin

[Ampman]

Snow plow package will get you the 6000 # front springs on the truck. The diesel is more than likely the 5200 # front springs. Heavier coils to carry the weight of the plow. Same Dana 60 front axle though. The door jam sticker will tell the story.


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[pappy19]

I have tge snow plow package on my F-250 V-10 gas and it didn't make much difference to me until I replaced the stock bumper with a South Texas Outfitters monster bumper. To me, it's a very nice factory add-on for not much money.

[KJRitchie]

Three questions: What range to you experience towing with a F250 with the 6.7 diesel and 6.2L gas. Diesel only has 27 gal tank and gas has 35gal on the SWB crew cab.

How good is the navigation system on Fords. Better than a standalone Garmin, worse?

What is the main difference between a 2012 6.7L vs 2015 6.7L diesel engine?

Thanks

Kelvin

[Moflash]

1.The 2015 6.7 diesel pulls my 28ft International and avg fuel economy is 12-13 mpg pulling.I have a F350 long wheelbase Supercrew 4x4 single rear wheelwith 8ft box and a 36 gallon tank.

2.Navigation system is a must for resale these days and it is much better than Garmin.

3.2011 was the first year of 6.7 and as with most Gen 1 vehicles or engines it had its share of problems.Transmissions,engine problems,etc
I bought a new 2012 and it had very few minor issues as there were many impovements.
I traded for a 2015 and there is a big difference between it and the 2012.Noticeable right away is how much quieter it is,both engine and cab.The power is up (not that it needed it) due to larger turbo and upgraded fuel delivery 440hp with 860ft lbs of torque.Fuel economy dropped 10% due to this increase.Navigation is much better and real time weather radar has saved me more that once from hail storms and ice when traveling.The disc brakes were made larger also as the 2012 brakes were a little anemic.
I have driven everything out there and for me there is no better tow vehicle for comfort and handling.Resale is as high as you can get if you take care of your vehicles and order the right equipment and colors as pre-owned Superduty Diesels are in demand.The high maintenance that is mentioned on this forum is baloney and is coming from people that have not owned a 6.7 Turbo diesel.Maintenance is close to the same as a F150.Def fluid usage is minimal.