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07-23-2014, 12:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
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long wheel base issues..
It just depends on how skilled a driver you are.I ran into flood waters in MN last year on a narrow county road with no shoulders that was blocked off and backed up 1/4 mile onto a tree lined private drive,never a problem.
Nothing is as stable on the highway than a large wheelbase truck That weighs 9300lbs.
400 hp 800ft lbs torque.Smooth
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07-23-2014, 12:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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I was thinking maybe 18" longer-
A foot and a half-
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07-23-2014, 01:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moflash
It just depends on how skilled a driver you are.I ran into flood waters in MN last year on a narrow county road with no shoulders that was blocked off and backed up 1/4 mile onto a tree lined private drive,never a problem.
Nothing is as stable on the highway than a large wheelbase truck That weighs 9300lbs.
400 hp 800ft lbs torque.Smooth
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you da man..
1/4 mile backwards is a long fricken way especially on narrow road. I am guessing there was no or light traffic?
How about putting a hitch on front of truck to use in case of too tight camping spot or does that hardly every come up.
PS,, What is that in the back,, Harley or ATV
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07-23-2014, 01:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
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That is a two up Can Am Outlander max 800 atv.By the way I backed around and thru the backed up traffic in MN.just returned from a 7800mile adventure and not once did I wish for a smaller rig
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07-23-2014, 01:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
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We bought an inexpensive 5' x 8' steel utility trailer with drop-down ramp, easy to load/unload for the heavier hauling, and have a maneuverable short wheelbase truck to pull it and our Airstream.
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07-23-2014, 01:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moflash
That is a two up Can Am Outlander max 800 atv.By the way I backed around and thru the backed up traffic in MN.just returned from a 7800mile adventure and not once did I wish for a smaller rig
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Makes sense for those who travel with that much gear.
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07-23-2014, 02:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
We bought an inexpensive 5' x 8' steel utility trailer with drop-down ramp, easy to load/unload for the heavier hauling, and have a maneuverable short wheelbase truck to pull it and our Airstream.
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Cant take the trailer and Airstream together.I have trailers also.I like to take things on my adventures.A atv to me is a must for exploring places like Moab Utah , Taylor Park Colorado,Alaska or ???Sometimes I take a motorcycle along to enjoy the scenery or pack for a month of off grid Airstreaming.A short box,well I have had many they look cool but for me are not a option.
A short wheel base regular cab is also not a option for me due to severe space limitations (I sometimes take people with me) and the unique handling they all exhibit when hooked to a long trailer( I have had many short box regular cabs also).
They make different vehicles designed for different applications.This is the perfect one for what I use it for(the atv in the pics above weighs 850 lbs alone),I have found no faults or drawbacks with this setup.
I recently parallel parked with trailer attached in eastern downtown Duluth MN in order to go to a Diners Drive Inns and Dives recommendation for pastrami.Wanted a home made pastrami sandwich so..............
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07-23-2014, 02:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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Moflash, we all travel differently and nothing wrong with that.
As for "unique handling they all exhibit", we were uncomfortable with two different w.d. hitches on 140" and our present 120" wheelbase in strong gusting crosswinds. Put on the Hensley/ProPride hitch design and it is no issue whatsoever.
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07-23-2014, 03:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
Moflash, we all travel differently and nothing wrong with that.
As for "unique handling they all exhibit", we were uncomfortable with two different w.d. hitches on 140" and our present 120" wheelbase in strong gusting crosswinds. Put on the Hensley/ProPride hitch design and it is no issue whatsoever.
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Your right Doug we all have different agendas and there is not just one solution for Airstreaming.
I also did not like the way the wd hitch beat up my trailer so I installed a Airsafe hitch and now it just bounces around on its own cushion of air with the wd attached..
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07-23-2014, 09:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
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how about a front hitch setup for maneuvering trailer in tight sections..
anyone have this on a truck.
how does it work out and how many time it been used. ??
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07-23-2014, 09:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
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You would only see the front of the trailer.Learning to back up your trailer with your mirrors is the only way.Practice in a large parking lot,you will see how easy it is.
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07-24-2014, 05:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moflash
You would only see the front of the trailer.Learning to back up your trailer with your mirrors is the only way.Practice in a large parking lot,you will see how easy it is.
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from backing up while driving a tractor trailer,(long haul and city delivery 8 yrs) to backing up while pulling a boat for the past 30yrs and backing up pulling a utility i use in my business I can assure you going backwards with mirrors is not that big a deal.
I understand you only see the front of the trailer. I was actually thinking about places where the long wheel base and tight camping spots could make it hard to "just back in normal". Plus i have a co pilot and can get a wireless camera to use on back of trailer to see going backwards.
With a front hitch you get more maneuverability in tight spots.
I was asking if having a front hitch is worth the money, $213.00 at etrailer.com or not.
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07-24-2014, 08:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
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I never have found a instance that I could not use my mirrors in tight places with a long truck and a 28ft Airstream.
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07-24-2014, 11:08 AM
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1948 22' Liner
Roy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carl2591
what are the plus and minus of longer wheel base vs shorter.. most likely going with 28-30 AS or SOB depending on what happens in the future.
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I think the biggest plus of the extra length allows for less sway of the tow vehicle and prevents loss of control and then the really bad things......
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07-24-2014, 11:22 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
Roy
, Utah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carl2591
I was asking if having a front hitch is worth the money, $213.00 at etrailer.com or not.
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I built my front hitch for my Dodge and have pushed a couple trailers using it with good success. They are nice and if you really think you will use it and the money is there, go ahead.
However, the question of worth it? I would say no. I built mine too use while on rescue missions and work related tasks (I reverse my truck and use my winch to pull disabled vehicles and trailers up onto my flatbed so the trailer doesn't tip up [so much easier than a come-along])
But for parking trailers, I've only used it two or three times in six years. Not really worth the manufacturerd price.
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07-24-2014, 01:18 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MYater
I think the biggest plus of the extra length allows for less sway of the tow vehicle and prevents loss of control and then the really bad things......
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It's been twenty years since the Hensley hitch was introduced, ELIMINATING the possibility of trailer sway, yet folks still recommend longer or larger trucks to REDUCE trailer sway.
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07-24-2014, 01:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
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Apache Junction
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Put a Curt 31051 front hitch on the front of the Dodge 2500HD diesel, just in case. Not much weight or expense. Not been needed to date. No issues backing 31' Airstream trailer into spaces. Not embarrassed to take it slow and get out to double check.
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07-24-2014, 02:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
It's been twenty years since the Hensley hitch was introduced, ELIMINATING the possibility of trailer sway, yet folks still recommend longer or larger trucks to REDUCE trailer sway.
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There is more to it than the magic Hensley hitch can provide Doug,sorry.....
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07-24-2014, 03:03 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
N/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moflash
There is more to it than the magic Hensley hitch can provide Doug,sorry.....
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Agreed. I read in an Airforum thread, a while back, someone experiencing sway with Hensley. I think to say it can eliminate sway is just marketing language, and not physically possible.
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07-24-2014, 04:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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There's no magic to the Hensley/ProPride design, it's actually pretty simple mechanics. I think most of us have been quite surprised, and I think you would be too. No sway ever, the trailer stays in perfect alignment with the truck in the heavy gusting crosswinds, its a pleasure to tow in any traffic and wind conditions with our 120" wheelbase truck.
You would need the other reasons for a long wheelbase truck, sway control is no longer one of them.
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