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Old 10-02-2013, 10:38 PM   #1
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Kudos to the Ram 1500

Just read Consumer Report review of the new Ram 1500...they really liked it...recommended rating...my poor Tundra was a distant 4th.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:24 AM   #2
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I love my 09, great to see the Ram making the grade. John
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:51 AM   #3
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That is really surprising that Consumer Reports would find a Detroit based vehicle high up on their list. It has always seemed skewed towards small foreign econo-boxes.....
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:09 AM   #4
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That is really surprising that Consumer Reports would find a Detroit based vehicle high up on their list. It has always seemed skewed towards small foreign econo-boxes.....
CR tends to lean toward efficient/practical/reliable choices. For many years, Detroit had almost abandoned that segment, offering only dreary, low-content small cars and ceding efficiency for "style" because Americans have some sort of prejudice against hatchbacks, so you get ridiculous things like Focus and Cruze "sedans" instead of hatchbacks and small wagons. (Yes, I'm aware that the Focus eventually offered a hatch again, and it's available in high-content trim levels as well. Detroit learns, eventually.)

Since "half ton" pickups are in such a different segment, and Detroit still sets the overall agenda there, they're more competitive. It helps the Detroit models that the Tundra's overall design is old now, and the Ram and GM offerings are very new.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:15 AM   #5
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Yes, but can you pull your Space Shuttle with the Ram ?

My opinion is almost all of the offerings in that class are about the same, with the exception of the Nissan Titan, which is so old and out dated, it's no wonder their sales have dropped off to almost nothing.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:40 AM   #6
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How much did the US get for letting a Japanese Truck pull it? Oh our government, NOT buying or supporting US made products; even the US flag and military weapons.
Probably a good thing though as there is a Dodge recall on part of the drive shaft.
But, I like my 2011 Dodge 5.7 1500 for pulling the 2010 25ft FC fb. Get about 11-12 mpg.
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How much did the US get for letting a Japanese Truck pull it? Oh our government, NOT buying or supporting US made products; even the US flag and military weapons.
Probably a good thing though as there is a Dodge recall on part of the drive shaft.
But, I like my 2011 Dodge 5.7 1500 for pulling the 2010 25ft FC fb. Get about 11-12 mpg.
They are built in the USA by Americans
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How much did the US get for letting a Japanese Truck pull it? Oh our government, NOT buying or supporting US made products; even the US flag and military weapons.
Probably a good thing though as there is a Dodge recall on part of the drive shaft.
But, I like my 2011 Dodge 5.7 1500 for pulling the 2010 25ft FC fb. Get about 11-12 mpg.
There's a valid argument to be made about where the profit goes from the Tundra, but as far as I know every current-generation Tundra is built in San Antonio, TX, and the first-gen trucks were built in Indiana, with the first couple of years of 2nd-gen trucks split between those locations.

And no, I don't drive a Tundra.
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My Tundra was built in Indiana by a Japanese company. My Ram was built in Mexico by a Italian company.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:47 PM   #10
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My Tundra was built in Indiana and my Dodge 2500 was built in Monterey, MEXICO, that is.
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...and my 2014 RAM 2500 Laramie 4x4 w/6.7L Cummins that I ordered on 31 July specifically for towing SilverLeaf was delivered last Tuesday. It is FLAWLESS. Not a single paint flaw, fit issue, electronic bug or anything else. It was manufactured in Saltillo, Mexico....oh, and it took FOREVER for it to get from Mexico to NC -- or so it seemed! My first US built vehicle since 1983 and the quality equals a M-B S550 that cost double. Way to go RAM!
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:36 PM   #12
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My Tundra was built in Indiana by a Japanese company. My Ram was built in Mexico by a Italian company.
Now that's either "really funny, I don't care who you are" .... or really sad....depending on how you look at it !

I didn't mean to start a political/economic argument. My post about the shuttle was just supposed to be humorous. Bad joke I guess....

I do still stand by my statement that about all these heavy half offerings are about the same....and that is to say, pretty darn good ( large heavy space glider thingies, notwithstanding ... )
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All I know is my 2500 Ram has a Hemi and it sure is fun to put your foot into it. Got to love that engine when you grew up watching Sox and Martin and the Ramchargers in your high school days.
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Now that's either "really funny, I don't care who you are" .... or really sad....depending on how you look at it !

I didn't mean to start a political/economic argument. My post about the shuttle was just supposed to be humorous. Bad joke I guess....

I do still stand by my statement that about all these heavy half offerings are about the same....and that is to say, pretty darn good ( large heavy space glider thingies, notwithstanding ... )
My F150 was BUILT in the USA, by USAians (AMERICANS) and they were probably even REDNECKS (who watch NASCAR)......who put food in my mouth, and a roof over my head....and paid for college. God Bless the American factory worker (no matter what brand they're putting together)! What I'm really curious about is that Tundra pulling the space shuttle. Do you think it was a Canadian with a hitch setup fron Can-Am
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...and my 2014 RAM 2500 Laramie 4x4 w/6.7L Cummins that I ordered on 31 July specifically for towing SilverLeaf was delivered last Tuesday. It is FLAWLESS. Not a single paint flaw, fit issue, electronic bug or anything else. It was manufactured in Saltillo, Mexico....oh, and it took FOREVER for it to get from Mexico to NC -- or so it seemed! My first US built vehicle since 1983 and the quality equals a M-B S550 that cost double. Way to go RAM!
My 4WD 2003 Ford Expedition must have taken three cows worth of leather to upholster. In 10 years (bought new) it still looks great and feels supple and soft. Can't say the about my wife's Volvo of same age. Mechanically all is strong as new. This is my first American made long term ownership, and I'm impressed. I came from a Toyota and at the time needed something stronger. I think its safe to say American made means quality again.
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So far I have pulled our 25ft 2001 Excella about 800 mi. with our 2013 1500 Ram 5.7 HEMI and it has been a dream... We are leaving from WNY Late Dec for Big Pine Key via a stop in Georgia and Tallahassee.. I will post a full review but I do expect it to be very positive base on present experience! SO FAR I LOVE THIS RAM
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From Toyota's website...

[QUOTE=gmw photos;1362419]Yes, but can you pull your Space Shuttle with the Ram ?


Direct quote from Toyota's website: "The Tundra CrewMax 5.7L V8 is towing far beyond its published towing capacity in a one-time, short-distance event. Never tow beyond a vehicle's published towing capacities."

I'm guessing most trucks could pull the Shuttle under similar conditions.
I wonder what happened to that Tundra after the demo? Did anyone buy it?
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Yes, but can you pull your Space Shuttle with the Ram ?


Direct quote from Toyota's website: "The Tundra CrewMax 5.7L V8 is towing far beyond its published towing capacity in a one-time, short-distance event. Never tow beyond a vehicle's published towing capacities."

I'm guessing most trucks could pull the Shuttle under similar conditions.
I wonder what happened to that Tundra after the demo? Did anyone buy it?
I think I read the truck is now a permanent display at the california science center.
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