Is an F350 overkill?

[pwakeling]

Originally Posted by KK4YZ

2810 is plenty of payload. You’ve also added packages that *may* have made your F250 nearly the equivalent of an F350 in terms of payload. I’ve seen F250 diesels with door sticker payloads in the 2300-2400 lb range.....



I guess you ordered your truck. It’s probably not typical of one on the lot (at least here in the South).

You are correct about not being on dealer’s lots. The F250 Limited trim is quite rare, particularly with the extra cold weather options, in the south. I know, I live outside Atlanta.

[JonDNC]

Originally Posted by pwakeling

I have a 2020 F250 to tow a 2021 Classic 30. I ordered the pro trailer towing package, that includes the trailer backup assist, increased GVWR, cold weather gear and snow plow prep package. The door sticker of this F250 Limited with the 6.7l diesel and 10 speed, off road 4WD is 10,800 pound GVWR and 2810 pound payload. A lower trim spec will have even greater payload. With the 20,000 pound tow capacity, how is that not enough for a 10,000 MGVW Classic, let alone a lighter AS? An F350 is overkill.



By the way, this truck is fantastic! Quiet, comfortable and easy to drive.

If you travel with lots of stuff and add a topper, bedslide etc. you can push against payload, shocked me when we did it, never thought it possible but with WD transferring additional weight you can push the limits of even a well optioned 250. Scroll back and look at my numbers. Admittedly the 600lbs of cap/slide/drawers does not help the discussion.

And tow capacity never enters the conversation

[Foiled Again]

Thanks for making that point.

Anyone who has seen The Long, Long, Long Trailer with Lucy's rock collection should get the point. Anything that is not permanently parked needs a "less is more" check on every purchase. I seem to have a weakness for kitchen gadgets, and have somehow acquired six pairs of tongs. Three are going to be given away. A biggie will be kept for getting hot stuff off the stove and serving ice cubes in cocktails. Have recently redone the drawers and dumped or given away almost 11 lbs of excess kitchen stuff. Under the bed. Oh my! A bit afraid to look.

[Vantair]

Depending on the model and year of truck build, you may be surprised to know that some 2500s/250s may have much higher payload than few years prior.... so sort of a 3000/300 type rating. Saw this on the 2020/2021 2500 GMC diesels that have 5 leaf springs and 3030lbs payload. 1000lbs more that 2019s and before due to new chassis and frames used.

[Joe T]

Originally Posted by pwakeling

I have a 2020 F250 to tow a 2021 Classic 30. I ordered the pro trailer towing package, that includes the trailer backup assist, increased GVWR, cold weather gear and snow plow prep package. The door sticker of this F250 Limited with the 6.7l diesel and 10 speed, off road 4WD is 10,800 pound GVWR and 2810 pound payload. A lower trim spec will have even greater payload. With the 20,000 pound tow capacity, how is that not enough for a 10,000 MGVW Classic, let alone a lighter AS? An F350 is overkill.

By the way, this truck is fantastic! Quiet, comfortable and easy to drive.

That truck is a 10,800 gvwr derate F350 SRW with 65psi in the rear tires with less rear GAWR. Its called the high capacity tow package F250.

Neat package if you want to fly under the “1 ton” radar.

[Ray Eklund]

Between Montrose and Delta, Colorado (2021). Appears to be a late model Airstream parked in a yard along Highway 50 on the East Side in the county.

One missing link in the Towing selection of Options?

Multiple missing links in the Towing selection of Options?

The junk yards have plenty of Trailers that have bad stories to tell, but no witness to interview.

I have never been disappointed having too much of anything. Insurance. Savings. Health Insurance. Tow Vehicle...

You chose YOUR Missing Link... I will try to cover all of my options. I tow with a 2016 F350 Turbo Diesel. Overkill?

That is not my Airstream.

Don't create an accident, due to your poor choice(s) or ignorance. Then post on the Forum that you wished you had taken better advice, before the accident, from those who may have known better. The highways are full of 'good intentions' gone sour.

Wishes are made for the Tooth Fairy, not adults towing an Aluminum Home.

[RedSHED]

There are no guarantees. There is weather that will defeat your equipment. At some point we all have to exercise good judgement.
Even trains get blown over sometimes.

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-revi...in-derailment/

[KK4YZ]

Originally Posted by RedSHED

Even trains get blown over sometimes.

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-revi...in-derailment/

Ha!

Recently a guy in a parking lot was admiring my truck (F350 diesel with topper) and said “it looks like a locomotive”😂
I said “drives like one, too”

Love my F350 diesel.

[MWanderlust]

No Regrets Here.

[pwakeling]

Originally Posted by Joe T

The only real downside to a 350 SRW is the extra rear spring(s) and 80psi in the rear tires.

Its usually going to come with a 3 inch hitch (depending on the year) as opposed to an F250 2.5” (which is really good too fwiw). Higher gvwr up to 12,400 with a better braking system on that particular package.

The 250 would work fine, rides better, 65psi rear tire setting is more realistic for driving around unloaded most of the time. Helps on regulations, registration, insurance, etc, especially if you have any commercial use. You can run lighter offroad friendly tires that work with the rear GAWR and tpms and the base rear diff has aftermarket support. Its almost a numbers game derate and that is why you see them pretty common for the Urban Cowboy or light commercial use.

Actually, that changed for 2020. My F250 Limited has a 3”hitch and 10,800 GVWR. The new F-250’s are looking like older F350’s.

I had a 1987 F-250 that was about as capable as a current F-150 but with a much worse ride!

[Rick n Mary]

YES! But NO! I purchased my 3500 diesel DRW for a 5th wheel... I will be using my truck for YEARS longer than many others because of pulling my puny?!!! 25’ 1997 25’ Safari.

[1StreamDream]

Originally Posted by pwakeling

Actually, that changed for 2020. My F250 Limited has a 3”hitch and 10,800 GVWR. The new F-250’s are looking like older F350’s.

I had a 1987 F-250 that was about as capable as a current F-150 but with a much worse ride!

Perhaps your F250 has one or more “heavy duty” suspension options ? I have a 2021 F250 Lariat 4x4, 7.3L gas engine, GVWR of 10,000, and it has a 2.5” hitch receiver

[uncle_bob]

Hi

All of these trucks come with a mind boggling range of suspension options. Many of them are stuck in with this or that package. Working out just *what* you get on this or that build sheet ..... not easy at all. Trying to compare that year to year is exciting. Comparing options over a 10 year period, forget about it. Door sticker is your only reference.

Bob

[pjshier]

Late model F250 with 10,000 GVWR has the Sterling 10.5" rear axle rated for just over 6,300lbs and 2.5" receiver hitch standard for all trim packages; F250 with 10,800 GVWR (HD) ships with the slightly larger Dana rear axle (7,300lbs), heavier rear spring pack including an additional leaf and 3" receiver. Other options that may affect weight ratings include snow plow and/or camper packages.

Fun fact - someone finally makes a 3"-2" compact one piece receiver adapter, reducing the play compared to needing two adapters to achieve the same reduction.

[uncle_bob]

Originally Posted by pjshier

......

Fun fact - someone finally makes a 3"-2" compact one piece receiver adapter, reducing the play compared to needing two adapters to achieve the same reduction.

Hi

Who pray tell?

Bob

[KK4YZ]

Ours is a 2019 F350. In that model year the standard bed trucks (6.75’) got a 2.5” receiver. Long bed trucks got a 3” receiver.

[Joe T]

Originally Posted by pwakeling

Actually, that changed for 2020. My F250 Limited has a 3”hitch and 10,800 GVWR. The new F-250’s are looking like older F350’s.

I had a 1987 F-250 that was about as capable as a current F-150 but with a much worse ride!

That truck is a 10,800 gvwr derate F350 SRW with 65psi in the rear tires with less rear GAWR. Its called the high capacity tow package F250.

The regular diesel F250 comes with the regular F250 rear springs and axle; it is limited to 3.31 gears (which are probably just fine unless you get larger tires). It has a 10,000 gvwr.

[pjshier]

Originally Posted by uncle_bob

Hi

Who pray tell?

Bob

Bob - my bad... I was fondling said adapter at either Trailercraft or Six Robblees; can't remember which it was NOT on of the extended units I've seen on eTrailer, but a beefy single piece of steel painted black.

[CRH]

Originally Posted by KK4YZ

Ours is a 2019 F350. In that model year the standard bed trucks (6.75’) got a 2.5” receiver. Long bed trucks got a 3” receiver.

Gas LB trucks got a 2.5"

[uncle_bob]

Originally Posted by pjshier

Bob - my bad... I was fondling said adapter at either Trailercraft or Six Robblees; can't remember which it was NOT on of the extended units I've seen on eTrailer, but a beefy single piece of steel painted black.

Hi

Ok, I'll keep digging. I'm going around and round in circles about how to set up the 350. I have a 2" shank at this point ... The latest crazy idea is to epoxy an adapter to what I have. It's never going back into a small receiver.

Bob