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Old 05-16-2021, 12:03 PM   #61
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350 with 27FB when you’ll want vs 250

We needed the extra leaf the 350 offers. Diamondback cover, bed slide and outlander rack with iKamper. Love this set up. If you think you might want to load more than a few hundred pounds plus the tongue weight, go 350. We love it!
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Old 05-16-2021, 12:03 PM   #62
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I have an 2019 F350 Limited DRW 6.7L Diesel, and I love it.
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Old 05-16-2021, 12:21 PM   #63
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250 vs 350

Personally I prefer the Ram 3500 but to each his or her own. I went up to the 3500 as I also tow a fifth wheel and needed the extra payload capacity. Kept with the srw though. Dualies are difficult to drive around town. We towed our 31' Airstream over 30K miles with a 2500 with absolutely no problems. Several times I put two ATVs on a bed rack and towed the trailer too. Never used a Hensley hitch but did always use an equalizer hitch.

There is little difference between the 2500 and 3500 Ram ride and I expect the same will be true for the Ford. As the new trucks are extremely smooth and comfortable I'd spring for the heavier duty truck. Can't have too much truck unless your comfort is impacted.

All that said, need to look carefully at purchasing a TV right now. Ford has stopped production of their large trucks due to the chip availability problem and the other brands are way behind schedule. Prices are sky high for both new and used trucks. Luckily I ordered my new Ram before the crunch hit and just took delivery. The dealer stuck to the deal with discounts even though the price increased $2K after I ordered the truck. Rebates have dropped to almost nothing. I received two key fobs with my truck but the dealer said that they are now only providing one also because of chip availability.
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Old 05-16-2021, 01:47 PM   #64
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I would recommend the F350. I have a 1999 F350 with 294840 miles Classic 30 foot.. This discussion reminds me of a boat I once owned. A co- worker had the exact boat with a 65 HP motor. It worked but was sluggish and used a lot of fuel . I had a 80 HP motor with a lot of HP, pep and and I ran it at half throttle.

You can not be over- powered, but you could be straining each day you pull the trailer with the F250! Options are available with the F350 that are not there with the F250!
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Old 05-16-2021, 01:52 PM   #65
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It's been said before. You can't have too much truck.
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Old 05-16-2021, 01:53 PM   #66
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Smile F350 is A-OK for us!

In 2019, we were lucky enough to find a 25' Safari Special Edition with a Ford F350 diesel quad cab and topper for sale in Yukon! We live in South Alberta and we happened to know the couple selling the combo. We had a GMC 3/4 ton Diesel so had to make a decision on buying the combo or just the trailer and driving the 2286km/25 hr to pick it up. Because the mileage was significantly less on the Ford we opted on the 2 hr flight and purchased the combo, later selling the GMC. GMC was a nicer truck inside and a very nice drive chain (Duromax/Allison hard to beat) The F350 (2010) came with 36,000km, so just broken in, we now are at 72,200 and we love the capability of the truck. I suspect that an F250 diesel would be very capable and may offer a softer suspension? We could I expect pull our Safari with a lighter truck but I would not go there, I love the power of the power stroke. The interior of the F350 is not as attractive as the GMC but then it sounds as though you have decided to go Ford. I am comparing a 2010 Ford with a 2008 GMC, todays trucks will have changed substantially I expect. As your AS is a 27ft all the more reason to pull it with a diesel. As far as maintenance costs the F350 may be a little more expensive (in our case) than the GMC. The issues we have had so far with the F350 have been minor, being fuel pump and thermostats, nothing mechanical. Hope this helps, Cheers and Happy RV ing.
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Old 05-16-2021, 02:18 PM   #67
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Wish I hate just bought the 350. The good news is the 250 kept us from leaving Airsteam and going into 5 th wheel
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Old 05-16-2021, 02:28 PM   #68
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Hello, new friends -

First of all, thanks in advance for answering yet another newbie question about TVs. Those of you who answer posts about hitches and vehicles and packages, day after day, are truly doing the Lord’s work in keeping people like myself from dying in a fiery crash, causing a jackknife accident on a narrow road, or wasting money buying and then trading in the wrong vehicle.

We’re starting with the trailer: Globetrotter 27’FBT. We plan to bookdock eventually so know we will at some point be adding extra water, extra propane tanks, etc, to the truck’s bed. Bikes somewhere in the setup (bed or back of trailer TBD). Husband is handy so we’ll carry some tools. Just us and an aging dog, maybe an 180lb college student on breaks if he can’t find a better option, lol. We travel light otherwise - the point of this adventure is to ditch all the weight of a suburban life. We plan to travel alot on the West Coast, so lots of mountain driving. Now to choose a truck!

Husband and I are not experienced haulers so we’re willing to pay for safety and stability while we learn (we have a plan for that, and we’ve read the threads on weighing the rig at a CAT scale, etc). We have researched and nearly blinded ourselves on Ford’s website trying to trick out and price F250s vs F350s so we are prepared when we go to the dealership. We have a rudimental-and-growing knowledge of GVWR, hitch weight, payload, and towing capacity. Unless we are missing something very important (always possible) there is very little price difference between an F250 diesel and an F350 diesel with the towing packages and all the necessary upgrades for towing safely.

If you’ve read this far, see above re: the Lord’s work. Here are my questions:

1. Are we missing something? If we can safely save $10K, great! I’ll buy beverages at the first caravan/meetup we attend. If you recommend we spend another $10K, thanks...and you’re buying the beverage.
2. Is an F350 for a 27’FBT like taking a baseball bat to a fly?
3. Do I need to be thinking about the hitch in this conversation or can any good hitch be added to the correct vehicle? If someone can direct me to a good explanation of how the whole system works together, I will study it carefully.

That’s it for now. Again, thank you!

Margo
Yes, F-350 is overkill. I tow a 34' Airstream with a Slideout with an F-250. A F-250 gas or diesel will be more then enough power and suspension to handle a 27' plus a huge pile of gear. With the increased towing capacity of the F-150, that would probably be more then satisfactory. In any event, try to get both tow packages and the separate "camper package". The adaptive cruise control is another big winner. Just build your truck on line at Ford.com then tell your dealer to try to match your specifications the best he can.
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Old 05-16-2021, 02:34 PM   #69
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We will be taking this with us when we are pulling our 27'GT. Yes, we like our F350.


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Old 05-16-2021, 03:05 PM   #70
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I have the 2019 F350 TD 4x4. You can save money by going with the XL trim and only buying the option packages that you need/want. I ordered mine, regular cab long bed with the bench seat. I can park the truck anywhere. Add a cab-high topper, I have an ARE with the racks.

Although I love the TD (turbo diesel) you now have the option of the big block gas engine. That choice alone will save you 10K. Remember, your top speed towing is only 70 mph, or you’ll start blowing the trailer tires.

Tow/haul mode, telescoping mirrors, running boards, and speed control are the options you want. I went with the bigger wheels too.

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Old 05-16-2021, 03:37 PM   #71
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Old 05-16-2021, 03:56 PM   #72
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Hello, new friends -

First of all, thanks in advance for answering yet another newbie question about TVs. Those of you who answer posts about hitches and vehicles and packages, day after day, are truly doing the Lord’s work in keeping people like myself from dying in a fiery crash, causing a jackknife accident on a narrow road, or wasting money buying and then trading in the wrong vehicle.

We’re starting with the trailer: Globetrotter 27’FBT. We plan to bookdock eventually so know we will at some point be adding extra water, extra propane tanks, etc, to the truck’s bed. Bikes somewhere in the setup (bed or back of trailer TBD). Husband is handy so we’ll carry some tools. Just us and an aging dog, maybe an 180lb college student on breaks if he can’t find a better option, lol. We travel light otherwise - the point of this adventure is to ditch all the weight of a suburban life. We plan to travel alot on the West Coast, so lots of mountain driving. Now to choose a truck!

Husband and I are not experienced haulers so we’re willing to pay for safety and stability while we learn (we have a plan for that, and we’ve read the threads on weighing the rig at a CAT scale, etc). We have researched and nearly blinded ourselves on Ford’s website trying to trick out and price F250s vs F350s so we are prepared when we go to the dealership. We have a rudimental-and-growing knowledge of GVWR, hitch weight, payload, and towing capacity. Unless we are missing something very important (always possible) there is very little price difference between an F250 diesel and an F350 diesel with the towing packages and all the necessary upgrades for towing safely.

If you’ve read this far, see above re: the Lord’s work. Here are my questions:

1. Are we missing something? If we can safely save $10K, great! I’ll buy beverages at the first caravan/meetup we attend. If you recommend we spend another $10K, thanks...and you’re buying the beverage.
2. Is an F350 for a 27’FBT like taking a baseball bat to a fly?
3. Do I need to be thinking about the hitch in this conversation or can any good hitch be added to the correct vehicle? If someone can direct me to a good explanation of how the whole system works together, I will study it carefully.

That’s it for now. Again, thank you!

Margo
Go with the 350. I have a diesel 250 and am maxed out on GVWR pulling my 27FB.
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Old 05-16-2021, 04:52 PM   #73
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350 if diesel, 250 is plenty if gas. The payload of a 250 with diesel would be reduced to a high level 150… at least that’s how it works out with Ram’s
The Ford is definitely different than the Ram. My F150 V8 gasser has a payload of 1150# and my F250 diesel has a payload of 2350#. Both are crew cabs with the standard short bed. The extra 1200# and the longer bed (F150 = 5’6” , F250 = 6’9”) is huge.
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Old 05-16-2021, 05:29 PM   #74
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I had a similar decision early this year. I initially thought I would get a 150 with max towing packages for our new to us Globetrotter 23FBT. However something in the back of my head kept saying ”You never know when you might want a bigger trailer, and you can (almost) never have to much truck.” So I started looking at the HD trucks. My thoughts were if I am going HD, might as well go 350, then I drove a 450 and a 350 back to back, and the decision was crystal clear. The wide track front end makes the handling of my 450 seem like a 150. My wife always hated driving our last 350DRW, but loves driving the 450. They really aren’t that much more money and the maneuverability 8n small towns or tight RV parks is a game changer for us.

I’d skip 250/350 and either go 150 or 450 depending on whether or not you think a bigger trailer is in the book over the next few years.

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Old 05-16-2021, 06:08 PM   #75
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Candidly a CDL is probably a better spend than a 350. There will always be conditions beyond any equipment, like that train which was blown off a bridge between Dalhart and Albuquerque.
There will always be temptations to schlep more junk, and the question each of us has to answer is when is it just too much.
Is a 350 overkill? Probably, but that isn't always wrong.
If you were doing it for a living, the $$ would be pretty clear. You don't seem to be, and short of hiring JB Hunt to tote it around on a class 8 flatbed, nobody here is likely to give you a lot of grief either way. If you want a 350 because you want a 350 and you can afford it, buy it. If you just like the shape of the 3, that's good too.
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Old 05-16-2021, 06:25 PM   #76
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I have a 2021 27FBT international and tow with a 2018 F350. There is no significant money difference from a 250 to a 350. Neither will know the trailer is there but if there is any chance to add payload (firewood, water for boon docking, portable gray tank, a couple of coolers, chairs, fishing gear, solo stove, more propane, bed mounted diesel tank, on, and on, and on) then why not do the 350? I have loaded mine down for a coast to coast move while towing the trailer. You will never regret more capability.
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Old 05-16-2021, 06:26 PM   #77
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Ditto on the diamond back!
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Old 05-16-2021, 06:30 PM   #78
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Out west cross winds are another reason to go with a heavier truck. A 150 can be white knuckle driver with a serious cross wind even if it has plenty of power.
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Old 05-16-2021, 07:30 PM   #79
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my own F150 has been plenty for my 33 ft Spartan, at times with a 600 lb ATV in the box
It would be very interesting to get CAT scale weights with a 33 ft trailer's tongue weight and a 600 lb ATV in the box. Comparing that to the F-150's door sticker payload rating and rear axle rating would be amusing.
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Exclamation F-350 is worth it IMO.

Both my Dad & I have had 350 series Fords and migrated to this decision for many reasons. Dad pulled several 34ft Classics for many years until he aged out. Always a E-350 V-10 gas. Mine have always been diesels. The 2 extra leaf springs added to the 350 over the 250 gain you load capacity for the vehicle and mitigate the tongue weight (34fters are tongue heavy) at no detriment in ride comfort.
Currently I just traded a '17 F-350 8ft box with 74k on it for a '21 identical F-350. Both ride smoothly. I did this trade because the Ford dealer gave me such a great trade-in because there is at this time a shortage of good used vehicles. And I got the new truck at invoice. When friends tried to do the same thing we have discovered that due to the fact that FOMOCO is allocating vehicles due to the shortage of chips and covid manufacturing restraints in Kentucky most Ford dealers are asking and getting MSRP. Not the best time to purchase if you ask me. Wait until supply/demand equalize a bit to make a better deal.
And I guarantee you'll be happy with a 350 at no real cost differential.
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