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Old 08-15-2021, 06:43 AM   #21
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I did a lot of research on the new 2021 Yukon Denali because my 2020 Sierra AT4 only has 1450 lbs. payload and I want to tow a 27 ft. Globetrotter (not too much heavier than a 25). The Max Trailering package (according to Marketing) DOES add the items youd need to start getting you there (better axle ratios, increased payload capacity, integrated brake controller, etc.). The Denali Ultimate package does include the Max Trailering package. I was just trying to get to 2000 lbs. payload because 1500 series trucks are already too big for daily use in tiny parking lots around my home. Unfortunately, as I got pics of door stickers, previous posters are correct the additional options reduce the payload back to 1400 lbs.

In the short term, Ive upgraded my brakes, upgraded my tires, added air bags if needed for leveling. I may increase to 3.42 axle ratio if I can make the payload numbers work. But, in the end, I cant increase my GVWR, and Ive got kids, so I may have to go HD once the actual trailer arrives and I spend time playing on the cat scales.

But you have to be careful with HD trucks too. Ive seen several door stickers for those with only 2000 lbs. payload once you add the heavy Diesel engine.
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Old 08-15-2021, 06:58 AM   #22
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What transmission is in the Yukon you are considering? My Yukon has the six speed transmission. That is fine for flatlands and modest hills, but I wish I had more gears when I hit the big passes here in Colorado.
The new Yukon and Suburban have a 10-speed. I suggest watching the Mr. Truck review on YouTube of the Yukon pulling a trailer through the mountains a couple months ago. He reviews the 3.0L diesel.
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:00 AM   #23
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I have a mint condition 2012 Yukon Denali that I'm going to use to pull my 2022 27 Globetrotter. It's got the 6.2L engine. It's just two of us on our road trips so I've removed the 3rd row seats and I'm going to remove the 2nd row as well. Third row seats weigh approximately 50 pounds each (100 total), 2nd row are 75 each (150 total), so that's an additional 250 lbs of payload capacity. I agree that a 2500 series would be a better option, but the 1500 is what I've got (for now). My door sticker says 1539 pounds so that brings me to just over 1750 pounds of payload. I can deal with that.
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:32 AM   #24
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I believe you can actually track the vehicle down to its current address if you have the VIN. I did not do so, You certainly can come up with information about accidents and the like. I simply wanted to confirm that it was a pickup truck and not an SUV. That only took about a minute or two.

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Old 08-15-2021, 09:04 AM   #25
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The Denali Ultimate package does include the Max Trailering package.
This is good news if its true. Historically the Denali trucks have been equipped with the majority of the options from the max towing package, including the auxiliary engine oil and transmission oil coolers and the automatic locking rear differential. Options include the tow mirrors, hitch, and wiring. The one exception to this has been the heavy duty rear axle, which was not available in Denali trim.

It would be great to see these things added as part of the Ultimate package. Id confirm this before buying one. It will take some research. Your GMC salesman wont have a clue.
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Old 08-15-2021, 08:57 PM   #26
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We have a 2012 Yukon Denali XL with the 6.2 engine.
We pull a ‘65 Safari. No water tanks, lightweight fridge, no oven, no shower. Laveo toilet is 28#.
4 AGM batteries in the front is trailer, 2000 watt sine wave inverter and 4 flexible 100 watt panels on top.
Tongue weight is 715#.
To increase payload in the GMC we took out the third seat and one of the second seats. We’re full time and my husband is a musician so there’s stuff. But no PA and that’s the heavy item. .
Does anyone know what those seats weigh?
I’d like to have an accurate assessment of the payload.
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:14 AM   #27
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This is from my recently traded 2020 GMC Denali 3.0 diesel with the ultimate package. You can see the payload is less than your XT4.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:57 AM   #28
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If you decide to "hot rod" the vehicle to make it work, I would strongly advise that you at least talk to Andy up at Can Am. Indeed, heading up there to let them do their magic would be even better. There's a lot of fiddly "tuning" sort of stuff involved in doing this.

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Old 08-17-2021, 10:05 AM   #29
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Youll find a lot of experts with differing opinions on the board.

I have a 88 29 foot. The old trailers tend to be lighter. Mine tends to run about 6300 loaded.

Ive towed with the XL Denali and currently tow with a Yukon. I need the passenger space for kids and grandkids and do not have the luxury of a dedicated tow vehicle.

Is the vehicle ideal? No. Pulling a 10% grade at 9000 is no fun. Ive needed to do that exactly once. In a wind you knows shes back there. But Ive towed the rig about 15,000 miles so far and Im satisfied.

Hitch setup is critical. Know your weight and balance. Visit the scales. It can work pretty well if you keep it dialed in and keep your speed in a safe range for the conditions.
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Old 08-18-2021, 10:10 PM   #30
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https://youtu.be/bpBxygByeVc

https://youtu.be/VQ1ma-bEqQE

Couple videos that might be worth watching.
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Old 08-18-2021, 10:37 PM   #31
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Interesting videos, but the numbers are still what matters.
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Old 08-19-2021, 07:21 PM   #32
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Interesting videos, but the numbers are still what matters.


Agree. The GM video is obviously an advertisement, but I thought the Mr. Truck video was very objective.
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Old 08-19-2021, 07:39 PM   #33
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Does anyone currently pull their 25 airstream with a GMC Yukon XL Denali 1500? How does it do? It says it can pull up to 8,400 lbs. It has a 6.0 engine. Just wondering before we take the plunge.
I currently own this pair and the Denali is a perfect tow vehicle. I recently replaced a 2016 with a 2020.
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Old 08-21-2021, 07:46 AM   #34
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New E-mail address and towing capacity

NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: chuckbye99@e-mail.com

I have the same set up and trailer you are inquiring about. I have a Pro Pride hitch which is great preventing sway with semis in 30 mph winds.

However I struggle with weight distribution on the rear axle which has a max of 4300#. Front axle max is 3800# and 25 foot AS Globetrotter has a max of 7300# with total max of 14,500# for tow vehicle and trailer and max payload of just under 1400#.

Cat Scale is 3060# front axle with 2 people, dog and gear for a total of 500# Tongue weight will vary but is approximately 950# with 1250# max according to owners manual which GMC says to follow rather than door imprint.
Rear axle Cat Scale is 4620# with hole 3 and 8" rise on 1400# WD bars.
Trailer axles are 5740# with max being 7300# for a total weight of 13,420# and a max available from 2021 GMC Yukon Denali of 14,500#.

I can not remove more weight from the rear axle which is over by 320# and no gear in back of tow vehicle. Can anyone HELP or do I need to buy a 3/4 ton truck? Chuck
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:04 AM   #35
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I have the same set up and trailer you are inquiring about. I have a Pro Pride hitch which is great preventing sway with semis in 30 mph winds.



However I struggle with weight distribution on the rear axle which has a max of 4300#. Front axle max is 3800# and 25 foot AS Globetrotter has a max of 7300# with total max of 14,500# for tow vehicle and trailer and max payload of just under 1400#.



Cat Scale is 3060# front axle with 2 people, dog and gear for a total of 500# Tongue weight will vary but is approximately 950# with 1250# max according to owners manual which GMC says to follow rather than door imprint.

Rear axle Cat Scale is 4620# with hole 3 and 8" rise on 1400# WD bars.

Trailer axles are 5740# with max being 7300# for a total weight of 13,420# and a max available from 2021 GMC Yukon Denali of 14,500#.



I can not remove more weight from the rear axle which is over by 320# and no gear in back of tow vehicle. Can anyone HELP or do I need to buy a 3/4 ton truck? Chuck
Chuck, I have tried to help, and now have asked you 3 times (between 2 threads) . How many washers are installed in the stinger for tilt?

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Old 08-21-2021, 09:18 PM   #36
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Chuck, I tow a 25FB Flying Cloud with a short wheelbase Yukon. The rear axle weight you are reporting is close to what I have on my rear axle when I have the weight distribution disconnected. When I hook up the weight distribution bars, my rear axle drops down to about 3900-4000 pounds. So I think there is something wrong with your hitch set-up. I have a different brand hitch so I can't tell you what to adjust, but it sounds like Rich can.

Karad, sorry for hijacking your thread. And in answer to your original question, my model Yukon is not the same as what you asked about, but it does OK. (I have a 2010 Yukon Denali short wheelbase, AWD, 6.2L engine 6 speed transmission)
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Old 08-22-2021, 08:51 AM   #37
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3 washers. Trying to attach Cat Scale weights, but not very computer savy. Chuck
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Old 08-22-2021, 09:29 AM   #38
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I've been pulling our 27' with the standard size Yukon Denali for four years, and it's been just fine. They do have the pneumatic leveling system, so when you first install the hitch, you want the vehicle running with the trailer hitched up. The hitch receiver is high, so to get our trailer level, we had to use a 9" drop down ball receiver. The Airstream dealer who did our original setup had to order the 9" drop down. I guess they're not that common, so be aware in advance you'll need one. And, that's a LOT of steel. I bet our hitch is 40-50 pounds.
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Old 08-23-2021, 05:57 AM   #39
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This is from my recently traded 2020 GMC Denali 3.0 diesel with the ultimate package. You can see the payload is less than your XT4.
Yeah, Diesels are heavy.
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3 washers. Trying to attach Cat Scale weights, but not very computer savy. Chuck
Try moving to 4 washers. They will fit, but it's tight on a new hitch.
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