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Old 10-12-2011, 04:06 PM   #1
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Future of the Chevrolet Suburban

What's the current wisdom from Detroit on the future of the Suburban? Is it still being discontinued? Are they ever again going to have a 12,000 pound tow rating as they did in the 2002-2008? Will there be a diesel someday?
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:07 PM   #2
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:17 PM   #3
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was never on the chopping block and still isn't.

Tow ratings and powertrains for next gen are very secretive. I'm not being coy...they really won't tell us. We had some leaks recently...namely the Cadillac ATS. Folks were fired and an early unplanned announcement costs millions!!!!! and tips your hand to the competition. I've never seen such tight lips in my whole career (except Corvette, it's always been tight lipped).
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I can't imagine that General Motors would discontinue that vehicle. Gub'ment agencies are buying enough of them right now to keep the production line open. Yer tax dollars being wasted (I mean at work).

Seriously, there is certainly a viable market for the Suburban line (outside of Gub'ment), why would they kill it? Maybe not a robust R&D effort ala diesel development, but certainly a healthy market.

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I've met a lot of Airstreamers/ other trailer types that switched from Suburbans to the pick-up Duramax/Allison combo. I'm suprised it's not offered in the Suburbans?
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:28 PM   #6
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I've met a lot of Airstreamers/ other trailer types that switched from Suburbans to the pick-up Duramax/Allison combo. I'm suprised it's not offered in the Suburbans?
No room for the allison in the CURRENT floorpan configuration.
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:28 PM   #7
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There was a light-duty diesel developed a few years back, but it was pulled right before launch. I think manufacturers are waiting to see who goes first with diesels in light-duty trucks and cars and SUVs that aren't German - see if the market can swallow the price increase.

There were rumors of GM body on frame SUVs going away, but it had been announced after the restructuring that they would continue on. A new Silverado is coming for probably 2013 and the SUVs would likely follow within a year of that.

That said, given what Chrysler can do with the unibody Durango, I bet GM could build a Lambda-based (Traverse, Acadia) SUV that could nicely tow 7500 pounds - maybe with an Ecoboost-like V6. I personally want a Grand Cherokee or Durango diesel...

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No room for the allison in the CURRENT floorpan configuration.
That's what they told me when I blew my second GMC turbo 470, but I found a pro in Idaho that hot-rodded my trans with a ton of Allison parts, including the torque convertor. It's a poor man's Allison, but with the overdrive, she sure runs good, with correct shift points, which my first two GMC boxes never had.
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I remember the smaller diesel. Seems it was a new design with a steeper than normal "V" 8 configuration. With the turbo in the "V". Maybe they gave up because of the DEF and new emissions standards?
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I don't know, but I'm disappointed that the 4.5 Diesel never made it into production and into a Suburban. If the next version comes with a diesel version (Allison would be great but not crucial) I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Actually, I told the guy who sold me my 2010 Suburban that, if he ever gets wind of a diesel Suburban, he should call me for a deposit.
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:47 PM   #11
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Thank the EPA

The EPA is now the chief designer of the Chevrolet Suburban.
My 2009 won't pull squat.
The Duramax project (for the Suburban) has been put on hold as GM is forced to redesign the Duramax for its 2500HD pickups every couple years to meet new EPA regulations.
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Out of, literally, a hundred different owners, over the years, I've heard of no problems with the Ford V-10 & trans or the Duramax combo, except one guy I met this morning with a 2006 Dura & 30' AS slide that was having on-going injector problems. A Monday truck?
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The wisdom of our EPA..

Burn more fuel to accomplish instantaneous emissions goals without looking at the overall outcome.

There are more fuel efficient engines for sale all over the world, some even built here, that are not sold here because of our government.
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Where is the 12,000 LB tow rating found for a Suburban? My 2008 2500 2WD is maxed at 9600.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:15 PM   #15
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Interesting to read rumors here about Chevy Suburban. Just yesterday I received a letter from my local Chevy dealer wanting to buy up to seven Suburbans within the next few days. Early indication? If they are discontinued expect a premium for the older ones.

But I like to believe there will be always be a market for this vehicle, unless GM can phase in an acceptable replacement. However Ford is discontinuing the Crown Vic and Lincoln Towncar. Both have a good reputation with Police, Government, Taxi and other users. Time and technology marches on. Vehicles are getting lighter while new Airstreams are getting heavier. Who really knows what will be coming down the road?
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One thing I've heard over and over about the Dura system is how crummy the mileage is. How come my 16000 pounder gets 15mpg and those Chevs get 9, if that?
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Last year I was part of a opinion gathering seminar with respect to the next gen interiors for the GM trucks and SUVs. The dash board/instrument panel. If you like the current interiors, you will like the next gen better.
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One thing I've heard over and over about the Dura system is how crummy the mileage is. How come my 16000 pounder gets 15mpg and those Chevs get 9, if that?
Not a "Chev", but close, our Duramax is averaging 13.5 on our current trip to the Northeast. Apparently the mileage is better if you drive slower...who would have thunk it?
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Vehicles are getting lighter while new Airstreams are getting heavier.
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