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skipj · 03-09-2012, 09:19 AM

Just what I've always wanted a pickup the price of a Porsche.

skipj · 03-09-2012, 09:25 AM

CrawfordGene, see http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...mMsZsIkq8btErA

ROBERT CROSS · 03-09-2012, 09:42 AM

Let the drooling Commence....

Bob

**DKB_SATX** · 03-09-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by skipj

Just what I've always wanted a pickup the price of a Porsche.

Find me a new Porsche comparably equipped to an Ecoboost Lariat at around $40k and I might have to buy it. A base-engine Boxster with metallic paint (not a custom color, just metallic) and memory seats lists for $56k and a no-option car (good luck finding one of THOSE) is $50k.

skipj · 03-09-2012, 10:35 AM

Now way you can find a Platinum for 40K.

**DKB_SATX** · 03-09-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by skipj

Now way you can find a Platinum for 40K.

Who's talking about an F150 Platinum? I specified Lariat (Supercrew, Ecoboost, 3.55 locking diff gets to about $41k list.) The post much later than yours about a Platinum package was on the SuperDuty anyway, which isn't available w/ Ecoboost.

Gene · 03-09-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by skipj

CrawfordGene, see http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...mMsZsIkq8btErA

Skip, thanks for the link. Seems like the posters on the EcoBoost Forum are having problems that weren't anticipated by me. And Ford and the dealers don't have solutions. Some people get it quickly and some wait for a while.

If I understood the issues (you really have to read the link to get an idea what it is about), they sound like things that happen when you put a vehicle on the market before you are sure everything works properly.

Gene

Silverflames · 03-09-2012, 04:35 PM

I was just discussing the new truck with the ford dealer mechanic, and is getting great reports back about it. One of his clients told him that it tows better than his tundra. The echo boost it a mini turbo charger on each exhaust manifold. the v6 has more power than the v8.

perryg114 · 03-09-2012, 04:55 PM

I will just live with my used junk. All my stuff is paid for. Take that to the bank.

Perry

barts · 03-09-2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CrawfordGene

Skip, thanks for the link. Seems like the posters on the EcoBoost Forum are having problems that weren't anticipated by me. And Ford and the dealers don't have solutions. Some people get it quickly and some wait for a while.

If I understood the issues (you really have to read the link to get an idea what it is about), they sound like things that happen when you put a vehicle on the market before you are sure everything works properly.

Gene

Well, as someone who builds complex software systems, I'd guess that many of the problems that come up in the first year have never been seen before releasing the vehicle for production. There are a handful of people reporting problems... and hundreds of thousands of ecoboosts out there... simple statistics indicates that many of these issues are just going to have to be debugged in the field, since the odds of them showing up during testing is pretty low.

- Bart

perryg114 · 03-09-2012, 07:12 PM

I am glad turbo charged engines are making a comeback. It is the best way to get lots of power and efficiency out of a smaller engine. I drive a turbo charged Eclipse and it is the mouse that roars. You also have the added benefit that it can put out as much power at higher altitudes. If I were rich like most Airstreamers I would have an Ecoboost just for the cool factor. I will have to settle for my 21 yr old Eclipse to get my thrills. So you think they put in a 100 MPH speed limiter in the Ecoboost like the rest of the trucks. Things just start getting fun at 100 MPH.

Perry

TouringDan · 03-09-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by perryg114

Things just start getting fun at 100 MPH.

Perry

I won't bite on the rich comment. Sounds like you would like to have an Ecoboost though. It probably does tow better than my Tundra, but I am happy with what I have

My 10 year old BMW, My 12 year old Triumph and Ducati motorcycles and my 08 Tundra will all easily do 100 mph, but I doubt that I have gone that fast in any of them. I value my license and my life too much.

Dan

TouringDan · 03-09-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew T

I went a little different route which is likely to be expected. I had driven a few F150 Echoboosts and was pretty impressed with the performance. Impressed enough that I wondered how well it would work without a big boxy truck wrapped around it.

In 69 there was a car life article where they towed Airstreams with 4 different carsn one was a Hemi Cuda and it did 0-60 in I think 14 seconds with a 69 27' Airstream. The SHO with a 30' Serenity knocked it off in 14 seconds. By far the fastest 0-60 run I have ever recorded with a tow vehicle.

Andrew T

Andrew

When Motor Trend did their Truck of the year comparison test in 2008 the 08 Tundra 5.7L 4x4 crewcab they tested did 0-60 in 6.7 seconds alone and in 15.2 seconds towing a a 7500 lb trailer. Using interpolation the Tundra will tow my 66 Tradewind 0-60 in about 11.8 seconds (using the TW weight of 4,500 lbs). Sometime when I think about it and I am all hooked up, I am going to do a real world test with my Tundra (5.7L double cab 2wd, so 450 lbs less than the MT test truck) and my 66 Tradewind.

Just for comparison, to show how much power the Tundra has compared to other 08 gas trucks the 0-60 time for the Ford F250 was 19.5 seconds and for the 3/4 ton Chevrolet was 18.2 seconds. So the big Tundra was 3 seconds faster than the Chevy and over 4 seconds faster than the Ford.

The big Tundra may not have the towing muscle of the Ford Ecoboost, but that would be a real interesting test and I suspect the results might be closer than lots of folks think.

Dan

TouringDan · 03-09-2012, 08:57 PM

For anybody that me be interested in the full Motor Trend 2008 truck of the year comparison test between 2 Tundra trucks, 4 GM trucks and 2 Ford trucks here is the link:

2008 Motor Trend Truck of the Year: Testing and Finalists - Of The Year - Motor Trend

Dan

ROBERTSUNRUS · 03-09-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TouringDan

Andrew

When Motor Trend did their Truck of the year comparison test in 2008 the 08 Tundra 5.7L 4x4 crewcab they tested did 0-60 in 6.7 seconds alone and in 15.2 seconds towing a a 7500 lb trailer. Using interpolation the Tundra will tow my 66 Tradewind 0-60 in about 11.8 seconds (using the TW weight of 4,500 lbs). Sometime when I think about it and I am all hooked up, I am going to do a real world test with my Tundra (5.7L double cab 2wd, so 450 lbs less than the MT test truck) and my 66 Tradewind.

Just for comparison, to show how much power the Tundra has compared to other 08 gas trucks the 0-60 time for the Ford F250 was 19.5 seconds and for the 3/4 ton Chevrolet was 18.2 seconds. So the big Tundra was 3 seconds faster than the Chevy and over 4 seconds faster than the Ford.

The big Tundra may not have the towing muscle of the Ford Ecoboost, but that would be a real interesting test and I suspect the results might be closer than lots of folks think.

Dan

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Originally Posted by TouringDan

For anybody that me be interested in the full Motor Trend 2008 truck of the year comparison test between 2 Tundra trucks, 4 GM trucks and 2 Ford trucks here is the link:

2008 Motor Trend Truck of the Year: Testing and Finalists - Of The Year - Motor Trend

Dan

Hi, sorry to differ with you, but having a drag race between one half ton pick-up against six 3/4 and or 1 ton pick-ups is not a legitimate comparison and proves absolutely nothing. Test all of the 1/2 tons for the same year. Note: "One of the six wheel duallies had no problem driving in soft sand, even while dragging out a stuck two wheel drive Toyota."

TouringDan · 03-09-2012, 10:32 PM

Bob

I would have preferred that they compare apples to apples, ie. 1/2 ton to 1/2 ton also, but they did not, but I think the comparisons are still worth while. First off, the comparison was not just a drag race it was also ride, handling and noise. Secondly, the Ford 3/4 ton truck, the GM 3/4 ton truck and and the Toyota 1/2 ton truck were all towing the same 7,500 lb trailer. If anything the ride and handling part of the test should have been an advantage for the 3/4 ton trucks. In terms of the acceleration comparison part of the test, the 3/4 ton GM truck had the 6.0L motor and the six speed tranny and the 3/4 ton Ford had the 6.8L V10 motor with a 5 speed trans. If they would have used the 1/2 ton Ford and Chevy trucks for comparison the acceleration differences would have been larger because I don't believe these engines and transmissions were available in the 1/2 ton trucks.

Dan

PamCheshire · 03-09-2012, 10:45 PM

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Just drove one of these 2011 F150 3.5L at the local Ford dealer, impressed to say the least, and really want to buy, but am concerned about hitch weight and gas mileage when pulling a 2006 28' safari with a Slide Out. Does anybody out there have "inside" info on mileage when pulling about 8500 pounds. The AS has about 1000 pound hitch weight and I have about 1000-1200 or "stuff" in the bed. Currently pulling with a 2006 F250 6.0 and never notice the trailer is behind me, getting about 12mpg in the mountains, 14mpg without trailer. I need a pickup for about 15000 miles per year without the trailer and only about 5000 pulling the AS. I'm getting pretty tired, and really pissed every time I stop and pay 25 cents more for Diesel than gas, and the 2006 has over 100K mileage on it. But the big question, will the 3.5L be struggling pulling the AS??? Tried to talk the Ford dealer into letting me hook up the AS and drive it up the mountain, but no go, some BS about insurance. Yes, I've watched the stress test video's. Thanks Terry

We have a 3.73 rear end ratio and it does a nice job towing. We hardly know the little silver bullet is behind us!

paiceman · 03-10-2012, 05:13 AM

DKB - we purchased our 2011 F 150 Ecoboost, 6.5" bed, 4x4 - 3.73 Rear, with every option EXCEPT Nav (put in aftermarket, do not like factory sound) for $41,750.00 out the door, no trade - cash deal. The truck was NOT on the lot we ordered it and waited eight weeks. To the dealers credit we mistakenly did not order the 3.73, the afternoon we placed the order I called and said I wanted the 3.73 instead of the 3.55 - not only no extra charge but they had to order another truck as Ford does not permit changes once they have received the order.

Great dealer, and we continue to have great success and appreicate what Ford has put out in the F150 Ecoboost.

ROBERT CROSS · 03-10-2012, 07:00 AM

"My 10 year old BMW, My 12 year old Triumph and Ducati motorcycles and my 08 Tundra will all easily do 100 mph, but I doubt that I have gone that fast in any of them. I value my license and my life too much."

10, 12 baby's....

I can do 55 all day long in our Ford, no problem toeing either.

Bob

jgerardi · 03-10-2012, 07:46 AM

Just got a Ford edge (not for towing) with the ecoboost. I love it. The Itouch is very interesting. Ford is clearly trying to reach out to the youngsters who will love the system. I feel most oldsters could find it too much, and potentially very distracting. Eventually the user can decide how much of the technology they want to use. I (mid 55 year old) use only 10% of the i phone features that my kids (20 somethings)use. My Dad reluctantly got a cell phone but doesn't want "all that stuff" on it.