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Old 10-30-2020, 09:44 PM   #21
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I never drove a ford echo boost and I know people do it all the time, but it just doesn’t seem like 3.5L is enough engine to climb the Rockies , I would think that engine would be screaming?
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Old 10-31-2020, 03:32 AM   #22
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Another vote for and F250 or F350 Diesel. We went through the same thought process. We 1st towed with a 2018 Ford Expedition with max tow package, basically an F150 disguised as an SUV. We used an equalizer hitch that was set properly. It towed OK, but it always felt like it was on the edge. Especially on long descents, the 3.5 eco boost revved at really high rpms. It had 9200 lbs max tow capacity abd 920 lbs max tongue weight. Finally weighed our tongue and it was 1150 lbs fully loaded. Our payload was 1520 lbs.

We decided to upgrade to a 2020 F350 diesel an have over 3000 lbs of payload. The towing experience was remarkably better. I would never go back. The only downfall of the F250 and F350 is the longer wheelbase and extra height makes it more challenging to park in tight spaces.

For the 2 years I towed with the expedition, I was constantly worried about pushing the limits and now tow worry free. Also the big benefit of running with a diesel engine is the diesel braking on long descents and the fact that we can use the truck lanes at fuel stops. No more worrying about trying to fit it on a tight gas station or worrying about someone blocking me once I got into to fill up.
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:33 AM   #23
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I am going through the same analysis and would love to buy 1 of the light duty trucks from Ford, GM or Dodge as it would be a better get around town truck. I am purchasing the FC28 RB and the only light duty truck that has enough payload for me is the Ford F-150 XLT with the 3.5 eco boost engine, 6.5 foot bed, max towing and max payload options. The payload is impressive (2,600-3,000lbs). I would prefer to go with a higher trim but you can’t get the max payload option in the higher trims. With the longer bed, the 150 won’t fit in my garage and neither would any of the HD trucks. This isn’t the F-150 that you have but if you decide to go with another TV it may be an option for you. I’ve decided that one of the HD trucks is a better option so that I won’t come close to limiting any of the key weight max limits. It’s a tough choice and it is mind boggling.
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Old 10-31-2020, 09:00 AM   #24
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I never drove a ford echo boost and I know people do it all the time, but it just doesn’t seem like 3.5L is enough engine to climb the Rockies , I would think that engine would be screaming?
It's more than enough engine. A big V8 has to "scream" a lot more to tow over the Divide. Drive one before you recommend against it.
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Old 10-31-2020, 09:13 AM   #25
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Option 1. What you have is fine. Get a F250/350 when you decide to haul your Harley in the truck bed.

I tow a 27FB with hitch weight of 950 lbs using a Equalizer hitch with a 2017 F150 ecoboost Supercrew shortbed 4x4 similiar to yours, Just under 1,700 lbs payload. Went to Alaska and back and across the USA. All checks out per CAT scales. No white knuckle moments. Like you just pack lighter stuff in tbe truck bed such as campimg chairs, honda 2200 generator, lawn mats, extra dog food, fishing poles, etc. Truck has plenty of towing power for the mountains, and it doesn't scream.

Don't sweat it. What you have is fine.
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Old 10-31-2020, 11:15 AM   #26
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F150

We have owned a 28’ FC for over 4 years and have traveled from NY to FL every year. We have a F150 Platinum crew cab 4x4. It tows the airstream great.
The aluminum Ford body helps with your payload.
As had been said, the WD hitch setup is priority.
You’ll be fine with what u have.
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Old 10-31-2020, 12:30 PM   #27
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Again, thank you for everyone's insights, experiences and suggestions. You have helped take a great weight off my shoulder! My husband and I will now proceed as follows:

Keep the F150 and invest in a great weight distribution hitch (more research, more opinions!) We will start slow and get comfortable with the set-up. Since we have time off in the spring, and don't work in the summer (teachers) we will have the opportunity to take several short trips and then if all goes well and bugs are worked out, maybe we can even do an extended trip this summer. Upgrade to a 250 (or 350...we will give it a try!) if we feel our towing experience is not allowing us the comfort level we desire. Finally, we will re-evaluate the truck in 2-3 years (hopefully also be fully retired) and go from there.

We look forward to becoming part of the Airstream family.

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If you are set on the F150, I would call or email Andy @ CanAm RV Center. He is the marginal application guru. Give him all your TV and TT weights and he will give you an honest opinion. 3/4 ton is a safe bet, but he has helped lots of people with closer load tolerance combinations.
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Old 11-01-2020, 11:50 AM   #29
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The wife and I just finished a cross country trip pulling our 86 29' Sovereign with our 2016 F150. From coast to coast 27 states 57 days 10600 miles. Not a problem. The EcoBoost worked great. Weight ditribution hitch setup provides stability. Full water tank most of the time. Will do it again anytime.
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Again, thank you for everyone's insights, experiences and suggestions. You have helped take a great weight off my shoulder! My husband and I will now proceed as follows:

Keep the F150 and invest in a great weight distribution hitch (more research, more opinions!) We will start slow and get comfortable with the set-up. Since we have time off in the spring, and don't work in the summer (teachers) we will have the opportunity to take several short trips and then if all goes well and bugs are worked out, maybe we can even do an extended trip this summer. Upgrade to a 250 (or 350...we will give it a try!) if we feel our towing experience is not allowing us the comfort level we desire. Finally, we will re-evaluate the truck in 2-3 years (hopefully also be fully retired) and go from there.

We look forward to becoming part of the Airstream family.

Caroline
That makes a lot of sense. Please keep us updated on how things work out... and enjoy!
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Old 09-06-2021, 06:19 PM   #31
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Caroline - I was curious how your experience has been. I have the same truck, and am shopping for my first trailer, and we like this 28RBT

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Old 09-06-2021, 06:26 PM   #32
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I pull a 30bunk with an F150 limited, pulls the trailer just fine. I upgraded my Blue Ox hitch to a Hensley Arrow, it was a big improvement.
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Old 09-07-2021, 05:29 AM   #33
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All I will say is that the posted numbers on the door sticker are there for a reason. Don’t look at the sales brochures. The most likely limiting factor will be the payload number. Weight distribution hitches will transfer some of the weight but it will be mostly to the front axle of the TV, so that portion won’t change your payload weight. It’s a good idea to load up the TV and AS and go to a weight scale. Then you will know if it’s within limits. I suspect that you will be close on payload for an AS 25 foot or larger.
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Old 09-07-2021, 06:40 AM   #34
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28' and F150 not a good match...

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Caroline - I was curious how your experience has been. I have the same truck, and am shopping for my first trailer, and we like this 28RBT

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Many of us can attest to the F150 Echoboost as having plenty of HP and Torque to tow an AS...I had 3 different years 25', and my F150 EB 4x4 towed fine; just that the "payload" was quite low for the Platinum...and I did not understand the importance of staying under that number= 1039lbs!

When I got the 28' FC Twin in 2017, wife pushed me into the new 2017 F250 King Ranch 6.7L...117K miles now, with 48K on the 28'AS, I would never go back to the F150 for towing anything above a 25' AS, and that is right on the cusp IMHO.

Payload and control being big difference with the larger 3/4-1T TV and larger AS. The F150 can tow, but night and day difference in power, braking, and control going up/down/around the Rockies with the F250 at 60-65mph, automatic engine brake engaged, lane change alert and distance safety set, and cruise control on...no white knuckle experiences. 10 years doing that route in MT/ID/Canada towing 25' and 28' AS. Big difference all the way around...(not to mention "payload"!)

Typically, those who have a 1/2T and tow a larger AS (27'-33') will argue for the F150; typically, they have not compared the difference in capability and comfort towing with the 3/4-1T diesel alternatives. Fact. Get the right TV up front for the larger AS's or get the right AS for the TV you intend to use, and enjoy the journey. Happy wife, happy life....
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I’m a big fan of Fordtruckenthusiasts.com. Find the F-150 site where your model is talked about and ask the same question.
I’ve got an Excursion and have upgraded to F-350 springs, with Roadmaster Active Suspension (RAS) and Air Lift bags, not to increase weight carrying capacity, but make what weight I am carrying more stable.
If you are thinking F-250, think about a few hundred dollars more and get an F-350. More payload!
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Greetings all.
We just spent two months and 4800 miles pulling our 28 RB twin without a single problem! Prairie winds, mountain passes, a few crowded freeways and our F150 pulled like a champ.

We are very happy with all of the decisions we made during our purchase. We are also very satisfied with the quality of our Airsteam. We had a little chip in the corner of one cabinet and the closet door clasp pulled out, but those were the only two things that required attention!

See you back out there soon!

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Greetings all.
We just spent two months and 4800 miles pulling our 28 RB twin without a single problem! Prairie winds, mountain passes, a few crowded freeways and our F150 pulled like a champ.

We are very happy with all of the decisions we made during our purchase. We are also very satisfied with the quality of our Airsteam. We had a little chip in the corner of one cabinet and the closet door clasp pulled out, but those were the only two things that required attention!

See you back out there soon!

Caroline
Glad your liking your set up. We loved our F150...just too small for the larger AS's. Like I said above, those who own a 1/2T towing a larger AS (28' FC, like yours) and have not towed with the 3/4-1T won't know the difference in overall stability, braking, handling, the larger TV's give you.


Which model F150 do you have, which engine, 4x4?, and what is your payload on your F150 door jamb sticker say? I would say your tongue weight is around 1100 lbs like mine...if you don't have at least 1600+ lbs max payload on that sticker, your likely overloaded with just 2 people and a light cargo load... I know our Platinum F150 Echoboost 4x4, only had a payload of 1039lbs...way too low to tow an AS, even a 23'!
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Old 09-11-2021, 05:04 AM   #38
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Ah, a voice of reason that actually pays attention to a TV’s capacity limitations. Too many people on this site that convince themselves that you don’t need to pay attention to the real numbers on the TV. Admittedly many people away with it unknowingly endangering themselves and others.
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All I will say is that the posted numbers on the door sticker are there for a reason. Don’t look at the sales brochures. The most likely limiting factor will be the payload number. Weight distribution hitches will transfer some of the weight but it will be mostly to the front axle of the TV, so that portion won’t change your payload weight. It’s a good idea to load up the TV and AS and go to a weight scale. Then you will know if it’s within limits. I suspect that you will be close on payload for an AS 25 foot or larger.
By “payload number” I assume you mean the “combined cargo and occupant should never exceed limit”?
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By “payload number” I assume you mean the “combined cargo and occupant should never exceed limit”?
Yep! max payload # is on that doorjamb sticker. Example below. 2144 lbs.
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