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Old 08-04-2020, 08:26 PM   #21
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Correction to above: Can't get BLISS in XLT with towing mirrors.
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Old 08-05-2020, 07:20 AM   #22
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I have a 2017 F150 XLT super crew.
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Can't get BLISS in the XLT trim..
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Correction to above: Can't get BLISS in XLT with towing mirrors.
Which is the reason I bought my 2017 XLT without towing mirrors, to get BLIS. Then I added after-market towing mirrors with BLIS. The best of both worlds.
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Old 08-05-2020, 09:04 AM   #23
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If you want an F150, Don't get the sunroof. It takes too much away from the payload. We have a Lariat 502A 3.5EB 145"wb with Max tow, mirrors, 36 gallon tank, no sunroof and it has a payload of 1,754#. We pull a 27GT over difficult terrain and it does well. I upgraded to Motorcraft Superduty (Blue) brake pads and Koni shocks. On certain interstates it does porpoise some still, but it is rare. We use the equalizer hitch and sway from passing semis is less than our old 23D with a Reese hitch, almost non-existent.
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Old 08-05-2020, 09:27 AM   #24
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Which is the reason I bought my 2017 XLT without towing mirrors, to get BLIS. Then I added after-market towing mirrors with BLIS. The best of both worlds.

What mirrors did you get?
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Old 08-05-2020, 04:55 PM   #25
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If you're considering a Ford, I'd definitely got to the source to consider different options and capabilities. https://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/





I like the Smart Connector feedback.



I don't like that towing mirrors DON'T come with towing packages and must be ordered separately, at least in 2018 they didn't. From the order guide:


"Note: Ordering the Max Trailer Tow Package does not include Trailer Tow Mirrors. Trailer Tow Mirrors are a standalone option and must be ordered separately. (Option Code: 54W/59S)"
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Old 08-05-2020, 07:33 PM   #26
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What mirrors did you get?
https://www.1aauto.com/ford-f150-3-p...7/1145977/2017
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Old 08-05-2020, 07:47 PM   #27
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2018 F-150 Lariat 3.5 Ecoboost, 10K miles of towing FC27FBQ

Likes:
* Cockpit layout, instrument cluster scan
* Very smooth ride, quiet cabin
* 3.5 EB...plenty of power/torque, yet good gas mileage

Dislikes:
* As stated, moonroof is a waste and that package detracts from payload
* Also as stated, auto stop/start, though it is disabled when towing
* That's about it...I'm hard-pressed to come up with negs, but could keep adding to positives. I really like this truck.
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Old 08-05-2020, 08:48 PM   #28
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I agree with the comments re: the sunroof. Extra weight and extra cost. I ordered my F250 Platinum without it.
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:03 AM   #29
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I hear you all on the sun roof...the manufactures way of loading up the price on certain options that you like...but you have to include the sunroof. I wonder if you could do a sunroof delete?
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Old 08-06-2020, 09:44 AM   #30
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Hmm, they don't seem to have a version for the 2020 F150. Amazon has snap on tow mirrors, but I'm not sure how good they are and will they block the BLIS functionality.
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Old 08-06-2020, 11:43 AM   #31
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I hear you all on the sun roof...the manufactures way of loading up the price on certain options that you like...but you have to include the sunroof. I wonder if you could do a sunroof delete?
With Ford, the sunroof is a $1495 option on all the F150's and on the Super Duty's up to Platinum level. The only Super Duty with a standard sunroof (for 2020 at least) is the Limited trim option. I don't know if a sunroof delete would be available on a Limited but I tend to doubt it.

My 2017 Platinum Super Duty did not come with a standard sunroof.
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:02 AM   #32
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I was going to post only one thing to provide emphasis to it, but after reading other posts, I just can't do it.

1. Adaptive Cruise Control
2. Diesel - effortless towing through the Rocky Mountains, but it's overkill for a small AS
3. Powered side steps - my 5'4" wife really likes these.
4. CCLB - The only way to get the 48 gallon tank is the long bed.
5. Lariat Ultimate - Just the right higher level features, without the bling

I'm quite happy with my 2017 F-350. It is a pleasure to drive.
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:35 AM   #33
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I'll agree with most of the above likes/dislikes. Me being a penny-pincher, I like the auto stop/start. When not towing, I prefer to drive in "eco" mode, I don't like that Ford always switches back to "normal" every time you start the truck.
I like that you can modify some of the truck behaviors via Forscan, a free piece of software that must be run from a Windows laptop. With it, I have:
  1. disabled horn honk if exiting vehicle with engine running
  2. enabled fog and hi-beam lights simultaneously
  3. disabled door ajar warning
  4. Engine and trans actual temps above gauges
  5. disable fake engine noise
  6. heated/cooled seat and heated steering wheel control on home screen (not just in climate control)
  7. panic alarm activation from fob requires 2 pushes (I set mine off too often)
There are a bunch of other modification that can be made. Info on Forscan is available on the previously mentioned F150 forum. Also on that forum is a thread "post your payload". It has lots of vehicles with complete option/build lists with their final payload. Gives a good idea on what you can expect based on the options you want.
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Old 08-09-2020, 01:39 PM   #34
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I have a 2017 Silverado but I'm going with the 2021 F150 because of this Pro Power Onboard

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2020/0...generator.html
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Old 08-09-2020, 02:40 PM   #35
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Ford Van vs Ford Truck

This may be a to little a bit to late.
I have a Ford E350 van for towing my 1977 27ft Airstream.

I chose the van over the truck because I wanted lock up storage while traveling.

It has the V-10 engine and plenty of power.

A 35 Gal Gas tank

One Ton Chassis

I do not know if the E350 is still made, mine is 2009 (Sorry about that)
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Old 08-09-2020, 03:29 PM   #36
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2019 F-250 XLT crew cab 4x4 6.7 diesel. I love everything about this truck. This is my second F-250 6.7 diesel and I have very few complaints. You definitely want blind spot monitoring, and the ultimate camera package. As far as the diesel VS gas thatís a personal choice but from a resale point of view youíre going to be way better off with the diesel. Try reselling a gas 3/4 ton truck and see how much less it brings. As far as maintenance goes these trucks are very easy to do your normal servicing yourself. Amazon has all the filters youíre going to need and thereís nothing difficult about oil changes, fuel filter changes and air filter changes. I highly recommend purchasing the Ford premium care extended warranty so that takes care of any big issues with the Diesel engine. In my opinion if you can hitch and unhitch your Airstream you can change your own oil and fuel filters. Good luck.
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Old 08-09-2020, 04:02 PM   #37
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I had the same original question and was waiting for someone to comment on the new 7.3 gas vs the 6.2 as far as mpg and towing experience. I know the 7.3 was new in 2020(I think).
I have an F250 with the new 7.3L gas engine and the 10 speed transmission in a King Ranch. So far (8 months in) I have liked it.

Same likes as many others: Seats, cameras, towing ability, payload (compared to a 150).

As someone mentioned I didnít need the moon roof and would love to have deleted it and gotten some more payload, but that didnít work out.

Gas mileage is a little low, but not unexpectedly. I get about 15 mpg hwy and 10 mpg towing my 25í Intíl RBT at highway speeds. Others with lower trim levels get better mileage and more payload.

The engine with the 10-speed handles mountains well, even simulating engine braking on a descent. Going westward down Raton Pass in NM I never even touched the brake. It automatically shifted down to 3rd gear and held a constant speed pretty easily even though I wasnít on cruise control at the time.

There is a thread ďF250 7.3Ē by Coaster that has additional info on the 7.3 L Fords, and some comparisons with the 6.2L. Hope this helps.

https://www.airforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2394317#post2394317
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Old 08-09-2020, 04:09 PM   #38
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Hmm, they don't seem to have a version for the 2020 F150. Amazon has snap on tow mirrors, but I'm not sure how good they are and will they block the BLIS functionality.
I have Snap and Zap tow mirrors I use on my 2019 F-150 Platinum. They fit nicely, add to my view of traffic approaching from the rear, and work fine with my BLIS system. Bought them on Amazon.

I have owned two F150 Platinum trucks, one with a sunroof (2016) and one without (2019). Donít miss it at all. Gained 160 lbís of payload with the sunroof gone, so DW and her luggage are back on board!

Canít think of much of anything Iíve not liked about either truck, other than the sunroof, which I NEVER used.
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Old 08-09-2020, 04:16 PM   #39
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I have the F150 2020 Platinum. Had the 350 Diesel and I miss the ‘secret’ key compartment so I don’t have to bring the key to the truck each time, just use the door code. Miss also a power outlet on truck bed, and the locking compartment under the back seat for protection gear.
The 2021 F150 appears to be a complete redesign that most importantly has the option of a built-in 2KW generator! This is a setup I am ordering:
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Might help cut down on the noise if you gave some idea of what class truck you are considering; mini? 1/2 ton? HD?
Gas? Diesel?
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