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Old 02-17-2019, 09:23 AM   #1
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Catch cans for Ecoboost Fords

How many of you Ecoboost guys run one of these?



Having your valves coke up in as little as 20,000 miles, is not good at all.

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Old 02-17-2019, 03:43 PM   #2
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How many of you Ecoboost guys run one of these?



Having your valves coke up in as little as 20,000 miles, is not good at all.

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Old 02-17-2019, 04:00 PM   #3
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Well first of all have we seen the intake valves with the catch can being used, NO. This has been a problem with many direct injected engines. Looks like Ford has done nothing to combat this. Mazda made some modifications to their Skyactive engines to make the intake valves run hot reducing the accumulation of oil vapors. I expect that this will be a problem as long as crankcase vapors and sucked into the intake through the PCV valve. The Germans have had a lot of problems with this as well but they are supposed to be expensive to maintain so who noticed.



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I have a 3.5 echoboost 2014 with almost 90k mi. Is this a widespread problem? I have had no problems! I made a very low effort, quick search, and this didnít pop up? I know several people who have been driving them since they came out. I have never heard of this problem.
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Well first of all have we seen the intake valves with the catch can being used, NO. This has been a problem with many direct injected engines. Looks like Ford has done nothing to combat this.


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They switched to a combination direct/tuned port injection in 2017 to help combat this problem. If I had a 2016 or older, I would run a can after the warranty ran out.
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I had a 2007 twin turbo BMW 3.0. Some had problems with valves coking as a result of too many short trips and the engine never getting completely warmed up. I never had any issues. That engine used a cyclone oil separator to take the liquids out before returning the vapour to the crankcase. I would install a proper oil separator before a catch can, if my vehicle didnít have one.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:17 PM   #7
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Many DI engine manufacturers have indeed added oil separators inside the valve/cam cover.
I know this because I installed a lot of new covers in first year DI engines.
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2017+ Ecoboost 3.5L uses a port+direct dual injection system so it has even less need for snake oil than a Gen 1 3.5. A good one properly installed won't hurt anything but your wallet, though.
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My 2010 ecoboost Flex has 140,000km, no issues,
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Catch Can

I put one on my 2012 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9 gaser. it is not as involved as the Ford but I highly recommend them if only that it prevents blow back crud getting into the air intake again that fouls up your O2 sensor and coating the throttle body. My unit is a bullet aluminum and about 250ml container that spins off. Just have to remember to empty it every oil change , no big deal if your have a good memory eh.
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My 2010 ecoboost Flex has 140,000km, no issues,

I could be wrong, and often times are (wrong) but.. we're driving our second ecoboost (2011 F-150/ 2016 Expedition) and first flex (2016 F-150) and like them all, except for trying to tow with E-85. But I didn't think you could get both fuel systems, it's always been one or the other.. Please set me straight.
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I could be wrong, and often times are (wrong) but.. we're driving our second ecoboost (2011 F-150/ 2016 Expedition) and first flex (2016 F-150) and like them all, except for trying to tow with E-85. But I didn't think you could get both fuel systems, it's always been one or the other.. Please set me straight.
Flex-fuel refers to E85 capability. The Ford Flex is a sport utility model built on the Edge/Explorer platform.

It is theoretically possible for Ford to produce a Flex Fuel Ecoboost but I donít think they have done so.
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I installed the UPR catch can on my 2014 F150. Very easy install and it catches a lot of oil and other residue.
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Folks,

I donít own one so really cannot comment on this ďmodificationĒ.

But I will comment on the YouTube presenter. I have watched many of his videos and I have been impressed by his knowledge he presents in them. Nope havenít tested any or even owned the products. Click on his channel and watch how he extracts broken spark plugs from Ford engines.

He displays a lot of experience in his channel.

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My 2011 E150 ecoboost has 268,000 km on it, has had sparkplugs replaced once,regular oil changes and has no performance issues at all. Early on it would stumble once in a while under hard acceleration but I suspect that the computer got flashed by the dealer with some fix. It doesn't do this anymore.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:04 PM   #16
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Don't have my 2012 4x4 Platinum EB any longer, but I put 130K miles on it, pulling 2 different 25' AS's from Texas to Montana each year for 5 years, up down and around the Rockies also...sometimes I drove up there in winter without the trailer also in -25-30 weather. Changed the oil every 4500 miles, ran regular gas, and never had any problems what so ever-did change the plugs once.

I would have purchased a new one in 2017 but wife really thought we needed a 3/4T for the new 28' AS...so we got the F250 Diesel...miss the F150 EB, but also love the F250 for what we use it for...
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If I had a pre-17 Eco-Boost I would look into it. Ford did not use the port fuel delivery for valve cleaning. They now have port fuel that cleans the intake valves at idle and slow speed and Direct injection for other load and power needs. I still run synthetic oil and use a bottle of Amsoil PI every 4-5K miles. Gas is top tier fuels when available.
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The tech on youtube is good, he talks clear makes common sense. The price of that system is pretty steep.

This is the new problem across all direct engine turbo lines. Those of us who are not into the turbos hard and change oil more often have faired better.

IF you cant sleep at night read this LOL! I appreciate the education and advise from people on this forum.

https://www.oronite.com/about/news/l...-ignition.aspx
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No Ecoboost here but I have a 5.0 supercharged Rover. One of the first things i did was install a catch can on my engine. It definitely catches a lot of oil residue in a few thousand miles. The problem is more of an issue with engines that do a lot of short trips. As preventative maint to help with this, Crc makes a Intake and Valve cleaner that breaks down the build up and helps the engine burn it off. I do a treatment with every oil change on the Rovers. It is designed specifically for this issue and can be run directly though the supercharger(I confirmed with them)

Definitely use a Good quality oil catch can. I use the UPR kit and converted it to work on the Rover. I have seen a bunch of cheap ones out there that dont have any decent baffling or any at all in them so be careful buying a cheap kit.

Hope my .02 helps.
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After much research on the Ford F-150 forums, and a few Youtube videos, I drilled the 1/8 hole from underneath as per the videos. Tons of sludgey muck came out with some water. This still did not fix the problem completely until I replaced the spark plugs that were 'gapped' according to what I read. The truck runs like new now! Even though I live in southern California, I was having problems on dewy mornings with my ecoboost loosing power and going into 'limp mode' when accelerating up the freeway onramp. Ford should have recalled this engine for this.
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