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Old 10-02-2020, 11:17 AM   #21
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3.0 Liter F150 Diesel serving me well so far

Since I don't see a lot of F150 3 liter diesels in my travels I will tell you about our experience so far (2019 model year).
- We only have 12600 miles total on the odometer
- MPG freeway empty as high as 30 (seems to have dropped a bit with the addition of the canopy and the weight of stuff stored in the bed)
-MPG city about 23
- MPG towing a 2004 25' AS International 2900 miles Olympia Washington to near Niagara Ontario (Cascade mountains, mountains of northern Idaho, Rocky Mountains included) 14.8 MPG average (highest single day was about 16 MPG across the plain states)
-Things we like: VERY low noise level, plenty of power to get us over the mountains, automatically gears down for down slopes, good creature comfort.
- Pro Backup is impressive when it works but it loses sight of the target on the trailer too often (we've read of owners putting the target on the front of the LP tank cover which we may try next)

If this performance continues we will feel very good about our TV choice.

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Old 10-02-2020, 12:13 PM   #22
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- MPG towing a 2004 25' AS International 2900 miles Olympia Washington to near Niagara Ontario (Cascade mountains, mountains of northern Idaho, Rocky Mountains included) 14.8 MPG average (highest single day was about 16 MPG across the plain states)
Interesting, at least to me. That's within .5 towing mpg of what I get with my old 5.9 Cummins. I don't get near the non-towing mpg you report. Although I doubt I'll be changing horses at this time, after much shopping, I always like to have a next potential rig in mind in case the unexpected happens. Time to do a little research on the small Ford diesel.
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Old 10-02-2020, 03:06 PM   #23
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Norman, I am one of those few F-150 diesel owners. Mine is a 2018 Lariat and this is the second season I've used it to tow. 15K miles of which 11K are towing miles. Used to own a F-150 Eco 6 prior, and for towing & mileage purposes I'd take the diesel variant every time. Like you, I'm getting nearly 30 mpg on highway without the AS and on flat to rolling hills typically see 15-16 mpg while towing the 27FB. All the torque, power, and comfort I need. I am surprised how many people come up to me in parks and ask about it, not realizing there is a F-150 diesel option. I will say that the DW and I travel light, so the reduced payload (due to engine weight) is not an issue for us -- well under the max payload limit and the Roadmaster Active Suspension I added makes things even better. May be an issue for others. I am also able to fit it into my garage (barely) which is a plus. I know a F-250 is in my future (when I build my storage barn and the DW starts buying more stuff to take on trips...), but for now I couldn't be happier with the diesel 1/2 ton.
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Old 10-10-2020, 10:21 AM   #24
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The notion that the ecoboost is in full boost when towing is baloney. Towing a 27FB on the freeway my ecoboost shows no boost needed at cruise. Sure, the turbo winds up on a climb, but rests easy descending on the other aide of the hill. I've got about 20,000 towing miles out of the 62,000 on the truck. Will let you know of the engine blows up, but there's no indication of that now.
I am looking at buying the new 2021 F-150 with twin turbo V6 pulling that has a max tow rating of up to 14,000 pounds. We are looking at Lariat and Platinum trims so I know the numbers won't be at the top, but I assume they will still be plenty for what we need. We just purchased a 2021 25FB International and I have been deciding between the new 2021 F-150 and the F-250. I've had many people tell me the new F-150 would be the better overall vehicle choice, but I also get the people who say go F-250 as it will tow better and eliminate white knuckle experiences that can be had with the 150. Definitely a decision that I am taking serious so would love to hear thoughts. Thanks!
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Old 10-10-2020, 10:54 AM   #25
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I am looking at buying the new 2021 F-150 with twin turbo V6 pulling that has a max tow rating of up to 14,000 pounds. We are looking at Lariat and Platinum trims so I know the numbers won't be at the top, but I assume they will still be plenty for what we need. We just purchased a 2021 25FB International and I have been deciding between the new 2021 F-150 and the F-250. I've had many people tell me the new F-150 would be the better overall vehicle choice, but I also get the people who say go F-250 as it will tow better and eliminate white knuckle experiences that can be had with the 150. Definitely a decision that I am taking serious so would love to hear thoughts. Thanks!


As I and others have said more than once, max tow is not the limiting factor, PAYLOAD is. Yes you can properly configure a max tow F150 but probably not a Platinum. You have to decide what your priorities are. Mine was high level features with payload so ended up with overkill Platinum F350. Also the longer wheelbase, and weight do make for a more stable towing package. We upgraded from a 1/2 ton and I feel the difference is noticeable and well worth it with the larger trailers. The trade off is it’s a bigger truck. I live in a rural area so no big deal, if I liven in a big city large factor.

But you have to make those decisions.
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Old 10-10-2020, 01:33 PM   #26
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Very interesting thread. I just purchased a Bambi 19’ and towed it for the first time with my 2017 GMC Canyon 4x4 and it did well, no complaints.
I was considering a new truck prior to the trailer purchase and considering the F 150 in Hybrid. I expect to speak with a sales manager next week since he will be driving the Hybrid on Monday. I will also consider a diesel either in Ford or other Manufacturer.
This thread is very helpful and continued dialogue will be great!!
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Old 10-10-2020, 08:07 PM   #27
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I am looking at buying the new 2021 F-150 with twin turbo V6 pulling that has a max tow rating of up to 14,000 pounds. We are looking at Lariat and Platinum trims so I know the numbers won't be at the top, but I assume they will still be plenty for what we need. We just purchased a 2021 25FB International and I have been deciding between the new 2021 F-150 and the F-250. I've had many people tell me the new F-150 would be the better overall vehicle choice, but I also get the people who say go F-250 as it will tow better and eliminate white knuckle experiences that can be had with the 150. Definitely a decision that I am taking serious so would love to hear thoughts. Thanks!
I agree with JonDNC. If you want an F-150, you need almost bare bones to get the payload rating up. If you want Lariat or Platinum, you need the F-250.
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Old 10-10-2020, 09:21 PM   #28
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F150 is plenty for easy driving pulling a 25' trailer.
F250 if you are pulling a 27' or larger.
A big consideration is the hitch.
We use a Propride hitch, NO sway. Easy safe driving.
We had a Reese hitch, no comparison !
Either Hensley or Propride. No other.
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Old 10-11-2020, 12:33 AM   #29
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I am looking at buying the new 2021 F-150 with twin turbo V6 pulling that has a max tow rating of up to 14,000 pounds. We are looking at Lariat and Platinum trims so I know the numbers won't be at the top, but I assume they will still be plenty for what we need. We just purchased a 2021 25FB International and I have been deciding between the new 2021 F-150 and the F-250. I've had many people tell me the new F-150 would be the better overall vehicle choice, but I also get the people who say go F-250 as it will tow better and eliminate white knuckle experiences that can be had with the 150. Definitely a decision that I am taking serious so would love to hear thoughts. Thanks!
Hi, I towed my 25' Airstream for over ten years with a Lincoln Navigator and never had white knuckles. Now I tow it with an F-150 Ecoboost. F-250's, on up, ride too rough and the center of gravity is too high for my liken. High end vehicles weigh more and lose payload. Thats' one reason that I bought an XLT.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:35 AM   #30
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I agree with JonDNC. If you want an F-150, you need almost bare bones to get the payload rating up. If you want Lariat or Platinum, you need the F-250.
Lariat 502A Supercrew. 1623 lb stickered payload with the 36-gal gas tank.
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I agree with JonDNC. If you want an F-150, you need almost bare bones to get the payload rating up. If you want Lariat or Platinum, you need the F-250.
Ditto to the above. F150 3.5 ecoboost Lariat here, supercrew 4WD max trailer towing package with large extendable mirrors, 36 gallon gas tank. leather, all the electronic goodies, 1670 lbs payload.

Avoid the FX4 and sunroof to lighten the truck.
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Ditto to the above. F150 3.5 ecoboost Lariat here, supercrew 4WD max trailer towing package with large extendable mirrors, 36 gallon gas tank. leather, all the electronic goodies, 1670 lbs payload.

Avoid the FX4 and sunroof to lighten the truck.
At least one likely difference between ours, besides potential model-year changes, is that I have the bed-side steps as a factory option, so they'd be included for my sticker as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they're over 20 lb per step, I have them on both sides.
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