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Old 01-01-2019, 09:18 AM   #41
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did you have that backwards?

I have to say that I drive a 17F150 EB and I barely notice the shifting. The ten speeds allow smaller differences between gears so shifts are more imperceptible. Plus if I'm on a hill or something I can just shift on my own. I'm guessing I will be in the market for an F250 in 5-6 years so I'm keeping my eye on developments now :-)
Umm, no, I didn't get that backwards. I am not convinced that 9 or 10 speed transmissions are necessary with the amount of torque available with the EcoBoost and the PowerStroke engines. A gasoline V8 would certainly benefit from a 10 speed when towing.

Old school and sticking to it.
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Old 01-01-2019, 12:08 PM   #42
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Then why trade it?
AS I stated earlier: My 2011 is in great shape, but there have been major improvements since I bought mine. Aluminum, far better rear doors on the Supercab, electric roll down windows or the rear doors, major frame upgrade, elimination of the terrible MicroSoft based entertainment system, cameras, interior improvements, better navigation system, and more.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:39 PM   #43
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..... elimination of the terrible MicroSoft based entertainment system.

Is this really true? I thought that the SYNC 3 system in the 2019s were still Microsoft based. SYNC and the small fuel tank are the weak points in this truck. The only reason I'm asking is that I'm considering trading my 2014 F250 for a 2019, but I'm still on the fence if it's worth it. Plus, my truck is paid for.
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Is this really true? I thought that the SYNC 3 system in the 2019s were still Microsoft based. SYNC and the small fuel tank are the weak points in this truck. The only reason I'm asking is that I'm considering trading my 2014 F250 for a 2019, but I'm still on the fence if it's worth it. Plus, my truck is paid for.
I have a 34G tank and no issues with the sync system on our 2017; sound system by the way is really great! The ride on our F250 Off Road 4x4 King Ranch is also great, compared with the 2016 and earlier models I drove. They did change the suspension starting in 2017. I would take a test drive in the new one and see what you think.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:31 PM   #45
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My 2017 F350 SuperCrew 8 ft box has a 48 gallon tank.Sync w/ Apple Play works great.Suspension rides great loaded and unloaded.Whisper quiet Ar all speeds.7 Cameras make towing easier.Auto dimming Led headlights are a big Improvement.
Big change from my 2012 and 2015.
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Helpful insights on the F150 10 spd transmission. I am wondering about the tranny hunting for the right gear and can see how that could be annoying. Anybody else with 10 speed experience?
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2018 5.0 XLT. Tranny wanít bad when pulling at speed. Sometimes (loaded and not) it was a little hesitant off the line. And it ran HIGH rpms when pulling on inclines. It did a fine job and I really enjoyed it, but the 250 is clearly much more capable.

One thing I hated on the 150 was the auto shutoff at stops. Iím sure there is a way to permanently diasbale it, but I never looked into it.
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2018 5.0 XLT. Tranny wanít bad when pulling at speed. Sometimes (loaded and not) it was a little hesitant off the line. And it ran HIGH rpms when pulling on inclines. It did a fine job and I really enjoyed it, but the 250 is clearly much more capable.

One thing I hated on the 150 was the auto shutoff at stops. Iím sure there is a way to permanently diasbale it, but I never looked into it.
There is a big difference in torque and feel pulling a 25' with the 5.0L vs the EB....the EB is quite a bit different and it seems effortless. We moved up to the 6.7L and the F250 when we moved to the 28' 18 months ago; and yes, the F250 6.7L is yet a much stronger TV for sure, but if I had a 25' again, I would get the F150 and the EB with 10speed...plenty power, torque, easy to drive around town, and less expensive to operate. Larger than 25' AS, I like the 3/4T -1T diesels...
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I will add this to my list of reasons to get a bigger trailer! The wife may be skeptical, but I figure the more reasons the better!!
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There is a big difference in torque and feel pulling a 25' with the 5.0L vs the EB....the EB is quite a bit different and it seems effortless. We moved up to the 6.7L and the F250 when we moved to the 28' 18 months ago; and yes, the F250 6.7L is yet a much stronger TV for sure, but if I had a 25' again, I would get the F150 and the EB with 10speed...plenty power, torque, easy to drive around town, and less expensive to operate. Larger than 25' AS, I like the 3/4T -1T diesels...

I would agree with this about the F150 EB and a 25' (which is what we have), but the payload is pretty anemic (a showstopper for us), which is the reason I like the F250 (or similar 3/4 ton). I really like the F150 King Ranch, but when I looked at the payload sticker, it was around 1350 lbs...........I believe my F250 is at 1900 lbs. I really liked the new F150 diesel too, but it's payload capability was even worse (lower). Half ton vs. 3/4 ton, all of the trucks are very nice, but I think it all comes down to payload capability and your own personal piece of mind. I always take too much stuff with us when we go "glamping" but with the F250 I don't have to even think about overloading the truck.
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I will add my $0.02 to this thread. I just bought a 2019 F250 Diesel. What I found was the dealers had very low stock on the 2019s. Maybe its that they don't want to get stuck with a bunch of 2019s when the 2020s roll out? Maybe its because 2020 sounds "ten years newer" than a 2019? Maybe its because of the rumored ten speed transmission? The idea that the 2020s would have a ten speed transmission helped me decide to buy a 2019. I don't want a newly designed 10 speed, I want the old tried-and-true 6 speed. I was planning to buy a 2020 model, but I'll bet the new 10 speed and the "ten year newer" truck will significantly increase the prices, or at least reduce the discounting.

I got a great deal on a 2019 with an incredible trade-in price on my used Nissan Diesel. The dealer threw in a lifetime unlimited mile power train warranty, backed by an insurance company, and I paid an additional $2600 to add a 125,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. I just could not pass on this offer. It seemed like the dealer really wanted to get the 2019s off the lot. I didn't want to wait until 2020 and miss out on the lifetime (non-transferable) warranty.
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I will add my $0.02 to this thread. I just bought a 2019 F250 Diesel. What I found was the dealers had very low stock on the 2019s. Maybe its that they don't want to get stuck with a bunch of 2019s when the 2020s roll out? Maybe its because 2020 sounds "ten years newer" than a 2019? Maybe its because of the rumored ten speed transmission? The idea that the 2020s would have a ten speed transmission helped me decide to buy a 2019. I don't want a newly designed 10 speed, I want the old tried-and-true 6 speed. I was planning to buy a 2020 model, but I'll bet the new 10 speed and the "ten year newer" truck will significantly increase the prices, or at least reduce the discounting.

I got a great deal on a 2019 with an incredible trade-in price on my used Nissan Diesel. The dealer threw in a lifetime unlimited mile power train warranty, backed by an insurance company, and I paid an additional $2600 to add a 125,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. I just could not pass on this offer. It seemed like the dealer really wanted to get the 2019s off the lot. I didn't want to wait until 2020 and miss out on the lifetime (non-transferable) warranty.

Same here. Very low stock on 2019s. Dealer in Idaho says they're stuck in Salt Lake. Not sure why though.........maybe something to do with the Gov shutdown? I don't know. I'm just speculating.



I'm buying on the Ford A-Z Plan (Ford employee pricing program) and the dealer (all three in Boise) seems to be very unmotivated to sell on that plan. Doesn't say much for Ford IMO. I guess I will be keeping my 2014........it's a good truck, but not quite as nice as a 2019.
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Same here. Very low stock on 2019s. Dealer in Idaho says they're stuck in Salt Lake. Not sure why though.........maybe something to do with the Gov shutdown? I don't know. I'm just speculating.



I'm buying on the Ford A-Z Plan (Ford employee pricing program) and the dealer (all three in Boise) seems to be very unmotivated to sell on that plan. Doesn't say much for Ford IMO. I guess I will be keeping my 2014........it's a good truck, but not quite as nice as a 2019.
As for dealer motivation up there in NW, I tried to purchase on my last 2 Ford's and even on a Subaru for the wife in MT and Idaho...could not get near the deal I ended up getting in Texas! I do register in MT anyway, but your right; seems they don't seem to be motivated to discount like in TX...just my experience.
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I'm buying on the Ford A-Z Plan (Ford employee pricing program) and the dealer (all three in Boise) seems to be very unmotivated to sell on that plan. Doesn't say much for Ford IMO. I guess I will be keeping my 2014........it's a good truck, but not quite as nice as a 2019.
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Sncnidaho, we too buy on Ford A-Z plan. I just went rounds with the local dealer when I ordered our new F-250. What I found out if you run into a salesman that works on commissions he wonít be to enthusiastic to help you. You need to ask for a salesman that works on salary. They want your sale to add to there sales count. Scott
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I'm buying on the Ford A-Z Plan (Ford employee pricing program) and the dealer (all three in Boise) seems to be very unmotivated to sell on that plan. Doesn't say much for Ford IMO. I guess I will be keeping my 2014........it's a good truck, but not quite as nice as a 2019.
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Sncnidaho, we too buy on Ford A-Z plan. I just went rounds with the local dealer when I ordered our new F-250. What I found out if you run into a salesman that works on commissions he wonít be to enthusiastic to help you. You need to ask for a salesman that works on salary. They want your sale to add to there sales count. Scott
When I lived in the NW the place to buy a truck was Dave Smith Auto in Kellogg, ID. Ram and Chevy. Not sure if they still have the same deals they used to, or if there is a similar place for Fords.
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When I lived in the NW the place to buy a truck was Dave Smith Auto in Kellogg, ID. Ram and Chevy. Not sure if they still have the same deals they used to, or if there is a similar place for Fords.
He may not get the A-Z Ford discount plan with a RAM or Chevy??
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In my case Ford only. My wifeís father retired from Ford.
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He may not get the A-Z Ford discount plan with a RAM or Chevy??

Plus, I wouldn't be able to take the heat from my family for not buying a Ford; former Ford employees in Indy. They would probably disown me.
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I know what you mean about taking heat! We been buying Fords since my wife and I got to gether in 1985. Only had one lemon a 02 cougar. We do buy Subaruís (since 2006) for our cars but always Ford trucks. Never had any problems at all with four rangers and one f150 and one f250. Still have and will never sell our BIG RED a 1994 F250 460cu Manual! Heck it only has 80000 miles on it. I expect the same with our 2019 f-250 lariat power stroke that is being built as we speak. We donít really need a diesel but just never had one and with our new to us 2015 23d and retiring and all and hoping to make some trips out west thought I give it a try. I really think all the makes of trucks are fine just pick what you like and take care of it and youíll be fine. I pick fords because of the employee discount we get. YMMV Scott
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