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Old 07-14-2020, 04:54 AM   #21
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Question: What do you do for a back up camera? Do you still the Airstream installed Voyager? Or will the GM accessory camera switch from transparent view to a more traditional back up view?
You can switch it out of the transparent mode. I didn't (and won't) use the Voyager again. The image quality of the GM camera is far superior. You do have to switch it out of the transparent mode, but it's really easy to do, you just have to press a virtual button on the screen.
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You can switch it out of the transparent mode. I didn't (and won't) use the Voyager again. The image quality of the GM camera is far superior. You do have to switch it out of the transparent mode, but it's really easy to do, you just have to press a virtual button on the screen.
^^this.

At low speeds, the transparent mode shuts itself off and you're left with either the down-the-side-with-splitscreen view or the rear view only. The resolution and agile of the auxiliary camera view is so much better than the Voyager, that it's hard to even think about reverting back to the Voyager.
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Now if GM could catch up with Ford & Ram and give us a much needed interior refresh with a properly sized screen perhaps we could see the camera, third party navigation and TPMS all on one screen...We'd be golden!!
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Oof....

The interiors are awful v. Ford and Ram. Must have raided their 1995 parts bin. Hard to get over the exterior styling too.
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The interiors are awful v. Ford and Ram. Must have raided their 1995 parts bin. Hard to get over the exterior styling too.
This is all opinion stuff. I much prefer the styling of the GM truck interiors. I think that the Ford and Ram interiors are reminiscent of a 1970's disco.

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Moosetags, thatís why thereís chocolate and vanilla! Everyone has different tastes. Me being a long-time GM guy, wanted to love the Chevy\GMC interior but once I sat in the RAM, it was an eye-opener.

The Louis Sullivan quote comes to mind ďform follows functionĒ with the RAM. Everything is in the right place and easy to use. The multi-function center console with sliding tray and multiple levels plus USB and AC outlet is a good example. Power spotting convex mirrors are a nice touch too. Oh yeah, thereís a DC outlet on top of the dash so you donít have to run a cord down the dash. Little things!

Everyone gets a choice, Iím very satisfied with the new RAM interior.
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Moosetags, thatís why thereís chocolate and vanilla! Everyone has different tastes. Me being a long-time GM guy, wanted to love the Chevy\GMC interior but once I sat in the RAM, it was an eye-opener.
Even as a current GM owner I have to agree, RAM did a lot of nice things to the interior. In the end, when I looked, it was the 15 cameras and HUD along with the Allison transmission that made it hard for me switch.
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Well, I finally got Lucy's transparent trailer camera yesterday. It had just come in at the Chevrolet Dealer in DeFuniak Springs. It is the new part number (84946379). I have reviewed this thread and other instructional materials, and am now preparing to do the installation. Vivian's (my 2020 Silverado) tailgate camera is 53" from the ground. The 57" measurement on Lucy is at the bottom edge of her rear window glass.

I am considering mounting the camera inside the glass. I think that this could work. We had already removed the screen from Lucy's back window to get a better view while camped.

What do you all think about doing this???

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Well, I finally got Lucy's transparent trailer camera yesterday. It had just come in at the Chevrolet Dealer in DeFuniak Springs. It is the new part number (84946379). I have reviewed this thread and other instructional materials, and am now preparing to do the installation. Vivian's (my 2020 Silverado) tailgate camera is 53" from the ground. The 57" measurement on Lucy is at the bottom edge of her rear window glass.

I am considering mounting the camera inside the glass. I think that this could work. We had already removed the screen from Lucy's back window to get a better view while camped.

What do you all think about doing this???

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Brian:

You have a few inches of leeway where the invisible camera will still work, so you could still install below your window. IIRC, I think I'm about 1-2" below the "optimum" height and everything works quite well.

I would be more worried about distortion through the window affecting the invisibility witchcraft.

{Disclaimer: My recommendation is worth exactly what you paid for it, as I have no direct experience with trying to go through the looking glass with it.}

Is there a way to do a temporary mount behind your glass to see if you're happy with the results--but yet still preserve the ability to mount on the outside below the window?

Good luck. Please keep us informed.

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This is all opinion stuff. I much prefer the styling of the GM truck interiors. I think that the Ford and Ram interiors are reminiscent of a 1970's disco.

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I just snorted coffee through my nose!
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Although I did love the interior of my 2016 Ram Limited, Iíve grown fond of the interior of my 2020 GMC Denali.
I had a negative reaction to the first 2020 Denali interior I saw, then I became more neutral and now I like it.
I think that for the next few weeks every time I see a new RAM, Iíll hear the Bee Geeís Staying Alive and see John Travolta strutting...
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Brian:

You have a few inches of leeway where the invisible camera will still work, so you could still install below your window. IIRC, I think I'm about 1-2" below the "optimum" height and everything works quite well.

I would be more worried about distortion through the window affecting the invisibility witchcraft.

{Disclaimer: My recommendation is worth exactly what you paid for it, as I have no direct experience with trying to go through the looking glass with it.}

Is there a way to do a temporary mount behind your glass to see if you're happy with the results--but yet still preserve the ability to mount on the outside below the window?

Good luck. Please keep us informed.

-Jayson
Hi Jason. I have done exactly what you have suggested. I configured my own camera bracket and have mounted the GM camera just inside the center of Lucy's rear window. For our test run, I am just going to run the cable down down the floor and out one of the windows to the tow vehicle. I hope to get to do the test run today or tomorrow. I will report back with the results.

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Brian, I have the previous version of the camera on my 2018. I did moint the camera inside the Airstream rear window. I pulled power from the USB bracket in the wardrobe closet. Signal on center display is great. Truck has antenna mounted on inside rear window.

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I spent today setting up the test rig to try out the new camera mounted inside Lucy's rear glass. We were already to give it a trial when thunderstorms came in from the beach. It looks like tomorrow will be test day.

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I just snorted coffee through my nose!
Too funny...
Although I did love the interior of my 2016 Ram Limited, I’ve grown fond of the interior of my 2020 GMC Denali.
I had a negative reaction to the first 2020 Denali interior I saw, then I became more neutral and now I like it.
I think that for the next few weeks every time I see a new RAM, I’ll hear the Bee Gee’s Staying Alive and see John Travolta strutting...
Not seeing the similarities that Moosetags did... I grew up in the ‘70s, even had a Leisure Suit (will deny that if ever asked) but don’t see the comparison between that era and the RAM interior (tongue firmly in cheek)
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Yesterday we hooked up Lucy to Vivian (the Silverado) and took them out for a test run. The camera itself worked fine, but it would never calibrate into the "stitched" version. I did some further inquiry on the Internet and found some information that if the camera was able to see any object on the trailer, it would not calibrate. In this information, the camera was seeing the spare tire on the back of the trailer. They removed the spare tire and the camera then calibrated. They were then able to put the tire back and it worked fine.

I think that this may be the problem with my set up as the camera lens can see the bottom of Lucy's window sill. I will now try the camera outside and report the results.

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Not seeing the similarities that Moosetags did... I grew up in the Ď70s, even had a Leisure Suit (will deny that if ever asked) but donít see the comparison between that era and the RAM interior (tongue firmly in cheek)
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I have now remounted the camera on the outside of Lucy. We hooked Lucy up and went for a test run. The rear trailer camera was able to calibrate, and the images were stitched together perfectly. This system is an excellent trailering tool. Here are a couple of pictures of the screen inside the tow vehicle with the invisible trailer camera in use.

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I have now remounted the camera on the outside of Lucy. We hooked Lucy up and went for a test run. The rear trailer camera was able to calibrate, and the images were stitched together perfectly. This system is an excellent trailering tool. Here are a couple of pictures of the screen inside the tow vehicle with the invisible trailer camera in use.

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Any screen shots using it as a regular backup camera? Curious to see how wide the view is.
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No James, I did not take any shots using it as a rear view camera. I will do that when I next hook her up. I plan to do that as soon as the Hurricane Sally passes.

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