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Old 01-24-2018, 06:15 AM   #1
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2019 RAM 1500 Towing & Payload

For those who are interested I was able to get some information regarding the new RAM 1500 regarding towing and payload.

They will have a Max Tow option, which will have 3.92 rear gear ratio, as well as some other changes.

Max tow is as follows:
3.6L V6 eTorque - 7,730 lbs
5.7L V8 - 11,610 lbs
5.7L V8 eTorque - 11,750 lbs (12,750 lbs w/Max Tow Pkg only on V8 eTorque Quad 4X2)

Max Payload is as follows:
Quad Cab - 2,100 lbs (standard) on V6; V8 - 1,970 lbs
Crew Cab - 1,930 lbs on V6; V8 - 1,850 lbs

In general towing is up about 20% and payload is an increase of 22% as compared to the current model.
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Thanks for posting the information.

The payload increase is going to help their cause the most - it's actually getting competitive with the other brands. I would be interested in what actually changed with the vehicle to up the capacities.
Was it the springs, axle carrying capacity, transmission components, cooling, frame or combination of all? Or did the marketing department use fuzzy math....
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We love our Ram 2014 1500, though the load capacity is marginal. Will have to peek at a similarity equipped 2019 max tow model, when it comes out, to see whether the difference is big enough to justify a new TV.
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Old 01-24-2018, 09:19 AM   #4
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Thanks for posting the information.

The payload increase is going to help their cause the most - it's actually getting competitive with the other brands. I would be interested in what actually changed with the vehicle to up the capacities.
Was it the springs, axle carrying capacity, transmission components, cooling, frame or combination of all? Or did the marketing department use fuzzy math....
I was trying to find specific information as to why the payload increased but nothing is available (to the general public) at this point in time.
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Old 01-24-2018, 09:27 AM   #5
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"The new pickup sheds 225 pounds, gets a logo redesign, an eTorque mild-hybrid boost and massive front brakes. The weight loss is mainly thanks to an increase in high-strength steel in the frame and body, plus the use of aluminum in the tailgate, the engine mounts and the front axle center section, among other components."
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So, not going to an all-aluminum body, but going on a bit of a diet. Looking forward to reading the numbers on the sticker when we can see one in person.
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Does it say if the larger payloads are available with the hybrid? Wondering how much the hybrid system weighs.
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:41 PM   #8
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Nice reviews:
https://www.allpar.com/trucks/ram/2018-1500.html

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...-detailed-news

Will be interesting to see real payload numbers. My experience last spring was not impressive when it comes to payload on a reasonably loaded 1500, super cab, 4x4. I could not find one higher than 1300lbs, door sticker. I see the article touts "up to 1950lbs payload, but does not say which cab configuration nor trim level... Still, could be good if they can get it with either Echo Diesel or V8-- above 1600lbs payload with short bed, 4x4 and super cab, reasonably equiped, for a 1/2T TV.
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Yeah, that is my concern as well. Usually the bare bones “work truck” model has decent payload, but then the one I want with all the comfy features has weak payload. We shall see.
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The article says that the Max Tow rating is only available with RWD (not 4wd) and with the 5.7 V8 Hybrid.

Interested in the hybrid. Belt drive. Regenerative braking. 48 volt Lithium Ion battery behind the seat. Standard on the V6, part of the packages for the higher trim levels on the V8. But not available on the diesel.

Others were already using coolant to warm the transmission fluid on cold starts, but this truck now uses coolant to the rear diff for the same purpose.

Lots of engineering. Lots of changes.
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With those numbers- I may have gone with 1500 instead of the 2500.
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If the max tow package doesn’t come with 4x4 I won’t get it. Try driving that in WI in Winter! Not happening. Disappointing.
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2019 RAM 1500 Towing & Payload

I don't see any comments about the RAM 1500 Ecodiesel. I have a 2016 4x4 , crewcab,392 rearend .
I have no problems whatsoever towing my '93, 25' Excella. I towed from AZ to AK last summer , 8000+ miles and averaged 15.7mpg, hand calculated . No hills were too steep , four adults and all our gear . Some of the driving was sight seeing without the trailer , but still a good average number for that far.
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Thanks for posting the information.

The payload increase is going to help their cause the most - it's actually getting competitive with the other brands. I would be interested in what actually changed with the vehicle to up the capacities.
Was it the springs, axle carrying capacity, transmission components, cooling, frame or combination of all? Or did the marketing department use fuzzy math....
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If the max tow package doesn’t come with 4x4 I won’t get it. Try driving that in WI in Winter! Not happening. Disappointing.
From what I understand, a 2wd will allow for higher towing and payload. But the Max Tow package will allow the option of 4wd.
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Then it is on the mix if it allows for max tow package.
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I don't see any comments about the RAM 1500 Ecodiesel. I have a 2016 4x4 , crewcab,392 rearend .
I have no problems whatsoever towing my '93, 25' Excella. I towed from AZ to AK last summer , 8000+ miles and averaged 15.7mpg, hand calculated . No hills were too steep , four adults and all our gear . Some of the driving was sight seeing without the trailer , but still a good average number for that far.
I asked about the diesel and they said it would be available in the new RAM 1500 but not until calendar year 2019. No details available.
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If you can hold out for the ECO Diesel you won't be sorry. I have 3.92 gears in my 2016 Ram 1500 ECO Diesel. I pull a 30' Airstream. I get between 15.5 and 17.5 mpg pulling, 30 to 32 mpg empty. It has 420 Ft Lb of torque at 2K RPM. I love it.
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If you can hold out for the ECO Diesel you won't be sorry. I have 3.92 gears in my 2016 Ram 1500 ECO Diesel. I pull a 30' Airstream. I get between 15.5 and 17.5 mpg pulling, 30 to 32 mpg empty. It has 420 Ft Lb of torque at 2K RPM. I love it.
Interesting. I didn't think that Ecodiesel was meant to pull that much. What's your tow rating and payload out of curiosity? Do you have a crew cab (4 doors)?
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Not to derail this thread, but I just read so much about the pitiful payload numbers on the RAM 1500 trucks. It is possible to get a decent payload on a non-work truck. Below is a picture from my wife’s 2016 RAM 1500 (with the 5.7 Hemi and 3.92 gears). My 2500 Big Horn with the Cummins only has around 2000lbs., so not much more than our 1500.

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From what I understand, a 2wd will allow for higher towing and payload. But the Max Tow package will allow the option of 4wd.
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Then it is on the mix if it allows for max tow package.
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Rated to tow up to 12,750 pounds and carry a payload of up to 2320 pounds, the new Ram improves upon the same maximum ratings of the current truck by 2130 and 440 pounds. Towing such large loads, however, requires checking the option box for the Max Tow package, which is limited to rear-wheel-drive trucks equipped with the eTorque-assisted V-8 engine and the 3.92:1 final-drive ratio (Ram also offers 3.21 and 3.55 rear ends). The highest ratings for four-wheel-drive 1500s are 11,460 pounds of trailer and 1950 pounds of payload.
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The new Max Tow Package, with a 3.92 final drive ratio, provides up to 12,700 pounds of towing capability, using a Dana Super 60 center section and open differential with a 256-millimeter gear set, and 35-spline axle shafts. It is available on rear-drive Hemi/eTorque trucks.
So it sounds like no Max Tow with the 4wd, but note that the 4wd still has a fairly high tow rating. I found it interesting that the Max Tow package isn't just springs and tires. It includes a different differential, and axle changes. If it does end up being limited to RWD trucks, note that they also say the Max Tow package uses an open differential.

All of the above is early information, so it could be that additional options/variants are introduced later.
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