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Old 01-13-2020, 12:20 PM   #61
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Some thoughts. I have a 350

I have the 350 and love it. I tow a globetrotter.
The super duty 2020’s have a 10 speed transmission. My guess is that MPG is noticeably improved. Hence the deals on 2019 models.

I believe weight has improved on 2020 along with tow capabilities.

Again, I love my 350, but some people have experienced the death wobble. I haven’t
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:11 AM   #62
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The extra height and weight of todays HD pickup trucks is exactly what makes them poor vehicles for towing, especially bumper pull trailers. They do not handle or brake all that well compared to vehicles that are lighter and have a lower centre of gravity, both of which improve handling and braking, especially in an emergency maneuver. What HD trucks do have going for them is the additional power (diesel) and the ability to haul heavy loads in the box.
Consider the following two rigs, each of them weighing in at 13,000 pounds. Which one is going to be more stable and safer, an 8000 lb F-250 pulling a 5000 lb trailer, or a 5000 lb F-150 pulling an 8000 lb trailer? You will always be more stable and safer when the size of the tow vehicle exceeds the size of the trailer, all other things being equal.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:24 AM   #63
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The extra height and weight of todays HD pickup trucks is exactly what makes them poor vehicles for towing, especially bumper pull trailers. They do not handle or brake all that well compared to vehicles that are lighter and have a lower centre of gravity, both of which improve handling and braking, especially in an emergency maneuver. What HD trucks do have going for them is the additional power (diesel) and the ability to haul heavy loads in the box.
Emergency maneuver?? When we purchased our currant 28' couple years back we also went up from our F150 4x4 EB up to our F250 4x4 with longer WB and 6.7L engine, and more "heft". I had pulled 2 different 25' AS's over 5 years with that F150, and felt "pretty" comfortable with it's towing capabilities even in a couple of emergency maneuver situations on the freeways of CA, requiring swerving and braking to avoid accident/collision.

However, with the 28' AS, I disagree with you that a "smaller" 1/2T TV or a sporty "SUV" type used as a TV, would have stopped us last year when traveling 65mph in mountains of NC, came around a corner on the highway, and traffic was at a full stop in front with no brake lights showing. The F250 brought the AS to a stop safely, within inches of the cars in front of us...wife and I both know if we had the F150 as our TV, we would have been in someones trunk! F250 did what we expected with it's size and the 28' 7000# AS in tow...it stopped us without any swerving or skidding.

I am fully agree about the TV size being most important when towing a heavy AS, especially in mountains....would hate to see an accident because the trailer "load" is wagging the dog...
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