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Old 07-12-2020, 05:39 PM   #1
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2015 Touareg TDI limits

We are still looking for our AS, but we now have a Touareg TDI to tow. We are focused on finding a 16,19 or 20 ft trailer. It seems from what i have read on thisbthread, TDI will have no problems towing any of those lengths. I would just like to hear opinions about others experiences with that set up. Anyone have trouble with the longer trailers? Obviously the 16 ft AS would be no problem for the TDI. I have no interest in going with a bigger vehicle since the TDI is my daily driver as well. Thanks for any thoughts.
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We towed with our 1999 New Beetle TDI

Not now, but when we had a smaller trailer. That little engine made almost as much power as our New Honda Ridgeline and better stopping power.

The Touareg has great brakes and tons of power. You might want to consider adding a transmission cooler.

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Old 07-12-2020, 06:02 PM   #3
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What PB_NB said, it will do nicely. For larger trailers you'll want to take a good look at the receiver mount to be sure it is stiff enough for the weight and torque, some models and years are not.
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Old 07-12-2020, 06:03 PM   #4
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Mbsprouse, welcome to the Airstream Community and Forums!

I have some good news for you. We had a 2016 VW Touareg TDI and a 2018 Flying Cloud 23FB. It’s a near-perfect towing combination. The tongue weight was within the Touareg’s 770 lbs. limit as was the overall weight limit.

The short overhang, fully independent suspension and six piston caliper brakes plus the torque of the TDI makes it a towing champ. And, we got 16 MPG towing!

We used a Blue Ox SwayPro weight distribution hitch with 1000 lbs. bars. We would still have it except we got a case of twofootitis x2 and ended up with a 27’ Globetrotter.

Take your pick, you’ll be fine all the way up to a 23’. After that, the tongue weight will exceed the Touareg’s limits. There are others who tow larger trailers by modifying the hitch but watch your rear axle max rating that’s on the door sticker. For us, it wasn’t worth the risk.

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Old 07-12-2020, 06:12 PM   #5
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We tow our 1956 Safari with our 2013 Porsche Diesel Cayenne which is our third tow vehicle with the same platform. First was a 2008 VW Touareg V8 gas, second was a 2012 VW Tourareg TDI an now the Cayenne. Love it! Great tow vehicle and a nice everyday driver too. We get over 22 mpg towing in the Rocky Mountains, near 30 mpg up & down the mountain to work everyday and better than that on non-towing road trips.




There is an entire thread with discussing different set-ups (nearly 900 posts!) with VW/Audi/Porsche tow vehicle set-ups. Enjoy!

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Shari, it is amazing that you get that kind of mileage. The TDI's seemed to hit that out of the park.
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Shari, it is amazing that you get that kind of mileage. The TDI's seemed to hit that out of the park.
Yep, we are happy campers!

Our vintage is pretty light though at about 3200lbs fully loaded...it would probably get less with the newer heavier Airstreams. But we'll take it!

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No issues towing our 2008 19’ OB Bambi with our 2014 Touareg TDI. Accelerates up grade. Would like to have a 25’ and wondering if it would be adequate.
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The TDI would struggle on the the steep western grades. I show it with just 240 HP and you'd need about 250 to maintain 55 on the Grapevine with a 25'. I show it to do marginally fine with a 23' trailer, though it could use a bit more cooling. Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Nevada, etc. would be even worse where you'd be expected to be keeping 60-65 mph. You really want north of 310 hp for a 25' trailer out west. The Hitch would also need shoring up,
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The TDI would struggle on the the steep western grades. I show it with just 240 HP and you'd need about 250 to maintain 55 on the Grapevine with a 25'. I show it to do marginally fine with a 23' trailer, though it could use a bit more cooling. Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Nevada, etc. would be even worse where you'd be expected to be keeping 60-65 mph. You really want north of 310 hp for a 25' trailer out west. The Hitch would also need shoring up,
What it lacks in 240 HP is made up for in 406 lbs. Torque.

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You can't fool Newton, torque does not get you up the grade at speed. For that you need power.
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Magically, for the last ca. 20k towing miles 265 hp was enough with 33' box trailer. Please calibrate your model or please stop sharing incorrect information. New users may not be aware of some limitation of your model.

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The TDI would struggle on the the steep western grades. I show it with just 240 HP and you'd need about 250 to maintain 55 on the Grapevine with a 25'. I show it to do marginally fine with a 23' trailer, though it could use a bit more cooling. Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Nevada, etc. would be even worse where you'd be expected to be keeping 60-65 mph. You really want north of 310 hp for a 25' trailer out west. The Hitch would also need shoring up,
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Suggest you read the post more carefully and apply some common sense. 265 is fine if the target speed is 55mph up grade. 65mph? not so much. Additionally, the wise driver will have some reserve so they can accelerate while climbing if need be. I realize you like to live on the edge but it is poor to advocate that others adopt your bad habits.
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Old 07-13-2020, 09:38 AM   #14
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Common sense? Read more carefully?

I will repeat - I use 265 hp and tow 33' box trailer (which is more challenging to tow than any airstream due to aero profile)

You said "You really want north of 310 hp for a 25' trailer out west."

My conclusion - no, you do not.


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Suggest you read the post more carefully and apply some common sense. 265 is fine if the target speed is 55mph up grade. 65mph? not so much. Additionally, the wise driver will have some reserve so they can accelerate while climbing if need be. I realize you like to live on the edge but it is poor to advocate that others adopt your bad habits.
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I towed our 27 FB Int many thousands of miles with our 2008 Cayenne, (fancy Touareg), with no issues at all. If you are planning on towing something smaller than that, you will not have a problem. As with any trailer, just make sure to have your WD hitch properly set up.

I once had a Dodge with the early version Cummins. It had around 200 HP and a little over 400 TQ. For the time, it was a towing beast. Your Touareg has ample capabilities to tow the AS you are contemplating. If memory serves, it is rated to tow something like 7700 lbs.
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I towed a 27FT Intl with a dry weight of 5800 lbs using my 2012 Touareg TDI and never had a problem. I also had a Hensley hitch and had my receiver beefed up at Can Am in London, Ontario, the tow experts. Never had a problem even through southern Pennsylvania and pretty steep climbs near Gettysburt. I hated to give it up but but VW bought it back at 85% of what I paid for it after 5 years. Now I want a 19FT Caravel at 3400 lbs dry weight and tow with my Volvo XC60(which VW pretty much paid for). I'll have my hitch reinforced again at Can Am as soon as the border opens up.
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Congrats on finding a TDI Touareg. We have a V10 which is a towing monster. However the best part which is seldom mentioned is the short turning radius. You can make U Turns and back into places that F150's can't even imagine. Also we found that getting onto ferry's and the like is much easier.
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I live in Denver, so I do a lot of trips that involve mountain passes. I have been pretty happy with this combination except that I do have to watch my engine temperature when I'm going up a 6% grade. I usually have to slow down to about 30mph. But, hey, I'm on vacation, so what's the rush, right? I've learned the trick is to find a slow-moving truck and just follow him. Then no one gets mad at me
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Old 07-13-2020, 12:33 PM   #19
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Many drivers will find the 240 hp TDI too under powered to competently pull trailers heavier than 5500 lbs on steep grades. The Cayenne on the other hand has much more capable engine choices.
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Old 07-13-2020, 12:37 PM   #20
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Pulled out 22' through the mountains of western Canada with ease. I miss the awesome mileage. One limit you will have is the hitch. They don't make a Class IV hitch for it which is why we had to switch to an F150 when we moved up to a 25' International. Some places have made custom hitches like Canam for Touaregs.
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