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Old 01-03-2016, 09:59 AM   #61
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Hmm... 4WD KR. Didn't the '13 KR have the "4A" setting like the current series? I wonder if your truck is never fully disengaging the clutch packs that manage the 4WD system and causing more drag than it should be when you're in 2H.
It does have a 4A option. My test was in 2H. Your idea is a good lead for me to follow up.
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Old 01-03-2016, 12:28 PM   #62
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Tire Inflation

Been reading the discussion regarding MPG of the EcoBoost. To state the obvious but often times overlooked, tire inflation may explain some of the difference between fuel economy of the same trucks. It's is easy to assume the tires are up to full inflation but not always the case. Rear axle ratio matters as well as you all know.

In my 2013 Owners Manual it states:

3.5L V6 EcoBoost engine “Regular” unleaded gasoline with a pump (R+M)/2 octane rating of 87 is recommended. Some stations offer fuels posted as “Regular” with an octane rating below 87, particularly in high altitude areas. Fuels with octane levels below 87 are not recommended. Premium fuel will provide improved performance and is recommended for severe duty usage such as trailer tow. Do not be concerned if your engine sometimes knocks lightly. However, if it knocks heavily while you are using fuel with the recommended octane rating, see your authorized dealer to prevent any engine damage.
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Calculating Fuel Economy

Do not measure fuel economy during the first 1000 miles (1600 kilometers) of driving (this is your engine’s break-in period); a more accurate measurement is obtained after 2000 miles–3000 miles (3200 kilometers–4800 kilometers). Also, fuel expense, frequency of fill-ups or fuel gauge readings are not accurate ways to measure fuel economy. 1. Fill the fuel tank completely and record the initial odometer reading. 2. Each time you fill the tank, record the amount of fuel added. 3. After at least three to five tank fill-ups, fill the fuel tank and record the current odometer reading. 4. Subtract your initial odometer reading from the current odometer reading. 5. Calculate fuel economy as follows: Standard: Divide miles traveled by gallons used. Metric: Multiply liters used by 100, then divide by kilometers traveled. Keep a record for at least one month and record the type of driving (city or highway). This provides an accurate estimate of the vehicle’s fuel economy under current driving conditions. Additionally, keeping records during summer and winter show how temperature impacts fuel economy. In general, lower temperatures mean lower fuel economy.

I guess that even Ford is saying don't trust the dash for an accurate fuel economy reading.

"Loving the new normal" price of fuel..
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:57 AM   #63
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Meant to chime in earlier, but got sidetracked. I have a 2012 F150 EB 3.5, super-crew cab, 6.5 bed, and 3.15 rear end; yes, I opted for the higher gearing as I do a lot of highway travel w/o towing. Don't have the AS yet, but am pulling a Funfinder (25' overall), empty weight around 4300#, and probably 5000 or so when actually towing. I have a shell on the trucks as well.

I love the truck and love the engine; I have about 63K on it with no mechanical issues of any kind. Typically I get about 14-15 around town, 16-17 with some highway mixed in, 18-22 on the open road (generally always carrying two to four paddleboards on roof racks), and seem to get exactly 10mpg towing the trailer, no matter where I tow it. Most commonly I pull the trailer from Sacramento, CA to Port Townsend, WA, so lots of mountain driving! There isn't a grade I've encountered that I couldn't cruise uphill at 70+mph if I wanted; however I generally tow at around 60 or so.

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Old 01-04-2016, 11:38 AM   #64
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Any diesel owners out there doing any better?
Yes.
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Old 01-05-2016, 09:01 PM   #65
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Yes.
That was a completely worthless response.

Details please . . .
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Went ahead and replaced the 2013 F150 with a 2015 F150. Basically the same truck, just 93k less miles. The old truck was good to us and I hope the new one does just as well.
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That was a completely worthless response.

Details please . . .
Lance has already shared extensive insight on his RAM 1500 EcoDiesel.
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Old 01-05-2016, 09:44 PM   #68
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Lance has already shared extensive insight on his RAM 1500 EcoDiesel.
Perhaps stating such would be useful, as opposed to the "yes" with zero other information. But thanks for assuming I should have had some sort of psychic connection with him.
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Perhaps stating such would be useful, as opposed to the "yes" with zero other information. But thanks for assuming I should have had some sort of psychic connection with him.
You're welcome to be snide if you like, but it's easy to find the set of threads that a forum member has started by going to their profile, under "Statistics" there's a link labeled "Find all threads started by <username>"
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Old 01-05-2016, 10:19 PM   #70
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You're welcome to be snide if you like, but it's easy to find the set of threads that a forum member has started by going to their profile, under "Statistics" there's a link labeled "Find all threads started by <username>"
Yes, and I certainly sould have known to do that based on the "Yes". I mean what fool would not?
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We are at 92k on our 2013 F150 and to date the F150 EcoBoost has had zero mechanical repairs, nada. Tires were replaced, battery, oil changes, wiper blades. That is it.
We just drove to our Idaho house in snowy conditions and averaged 20.6 MPG over the 1100 miles. One stretch was 22.5 MPG.
Pulling either out 27ft Airstream or our 9ft tall dual axle enclosed trailer the truck gets 12.5 MPG. Loaded or empty it seems to get 12.5 MPG towing either trailer. Towing our dual axle car trailer it gets 17.5 MPG empty and 15.5 MPG with our Miata loaded.
It's been a great truck. I really thought we would replace it with a 3/4 diesel, but I may just get another '15 or '16 EcoBoost.

Any diesel owners out there doing any better? Someone please convince me we need a diesel.
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Hi, spencerhut; You asked and Top answered.


Yes, the Eco-Diesel is known for better fuel mileage, but in speed, payload, and tow ratings/ability the Eco-Boost wins hands down. Both trucks are good and it comes down to personal choice.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:45 AM   #72
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Details, give us details! Tell us about your new F150 and pictures! For us, our '15 is proving to be so far ahead of the 09-14 F150 in both mechanical and creature comforts. We towed our Pete about 250 miles over 3 days last weekend on a trip down to around Wimauma and back with our '15 and I continue to be impressed with how well it handles our coach............
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That was a completely worthless response.

Details please . . .
As you can clearly see, it is pretty much a waste of my slow typing abilities to "convince" a Ford EcoBoost owner of anything.

How's that for another worthless post?

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Here's a pretty good video on the F150 EB 3.5. Having just bought one after having 2X Dodges I've been impressed. Haven't towed yet but looking forward to it.

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Bought our first AS in October. Looks like we are going to say bye bye to my beloved Tacoma. Our trailer is only 4,000 lbs dry, even though the tow capacity of the V6 Tacoma is 6,500 it still grunts up any hill, and drops into 4th on every overpass. We have our eye on the '15 F150 EB. Only complaint I have in looking at them: The purported $9,000 off sticker price really just gets the price to be close to a similarly equipped Tundra. So while it may seem like a 'steal' its really just a game.
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Here's a pretty good video on the F150 EB 3.5. Having just bought one after having 2X Dodges I've been impressed. Haven't towed yet but looking forward to it.

Hope it's better than the 5.4 ,with the 2 piece spark plugs that break off way down in the head, and the cam timing which is run by oil pressure ,it quits working when the main bearing get worn, sometimes at 90000 miles...I will stick with my dodge 6.7 cumalong, I have had lots of fords, and don't want any more...
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As you can clearly see, it is pretty much a waste of my slow typing abilities to "convince" a Ford EcoBoost owner of anything.

How's that for another worthless post?

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Why is there a need to convince EcoBoost owners of whatever ? The F-150 owners post on performance satisfaction are uniformly positive. Trust me, had someone been thoroughly disappointed in one of them it would have gone ape on this site.
My son has the new Dodge Eco-Diesel and I am very familiar with the truck.
It could not safely handle my 2013- 30' International and it would be overloaded whereas with my F-150 EcoBoost I have power and tow capacity to spare. In a Dodge I would have to go to the Ram 2500 in gas or diesel to get the job done.
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Why is there a need to convince EcoBoost owners of whatever ?
Well franklyfrank, nice to hear from you.

In the first post the OP asks to be convinced he needs a diesel.

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Any diesel owners out there doing any better? Someone please convince me we need a diesel.
He asked. I was just trying to help, but I guess he got irritated that I didn't do all the research for him or point him to where he could find it.

Y'all EcoBoost owners enjoy your trucks. I'll wave at you filling up your truck at the gas station as I drive by in my EcoDiesel
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the ecodiesel is a nice truck and when I was shopping, I would have pick that if it wasn't from the price difference that made it too steep for me.


But lets be honest, it s a simple personal preference. both truck have great quality. And when it come down to the pump..... the eco diesel with the smaller tank dosnt do any longer than a ecoboost that come with a long range tank. Yes, the ecoboost drink more but the reality is, when you will wave at the ecoboost owner.... you will be standing still at the same gas station fueling also.....

How Far Can You Drive? We Analyze Half-Ton Fuel-Tank Range - PickupTrucks.com News

anyway, money not been a factor, I would have pick the eco diesel but the ford does the job and with the kind of milage I do, I will always be ahead of the game in $$$ staying with gas truck when counting purchasing price and maintenance cost and fuel cost.
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LOL!

The fact that the EcoBoost needs or even offers a 36 gallon tank should shed some light on its fuel economy.

I have a 26 gallon tank and at 15 MPG towing my Ambassador, 23 gallons of useable capacity that is 345 miles. 345 miles averaging 60 MPH is 5 hours and 40 minutes of seat time. I have never been able to get three kids, the wife and me to make it five hours and 40 minutes without a few potty breaks. So most likely, if you see me at the fuel station filling up, my tank was probably half full, but my bladder was full.
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