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DFord79 · 01-15-2008, 10:42 PM

F-150 bids to stay on top with makeover

Looks like Ford is serious with the 09 F-150. Lots of innovations and bigger cab. Diesel comming also with 300hp and 530lbs of torque for the 150. The new Platenum edition seats and interior look real impressive.

There are several videos on the page halfway down on the right.

Silvertwinkie · 01-16-2008, 07:10 AM

Not much of a Ford advocate, but it is a good looking truck and from what we've seen, the Ford frames are about the strongest out there, even in F-150 form. Hopefully the powertrain offerings will help so that these are not as common.

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DFord79 · 01-16-2008, 07:32 AM

The biggest changes We are going to see in the next comple years is in the power trains in ALL vehicles. Power is delivered if different ways with different motors and manufacturers. Ford, and Chevy have had a basic philosophy for years, Ford had haulers,,Chevy had trucks that acted like cars, smooth and quiet. That is all changing. With pickups of the past and even now loaded is the determining factor. GMs would drive nicer empty and Fords would feel better with loads on them I know this....I has a fleet of 30 pickups in a delivery service for 30 years. I bought Ford, Chevys, and Dodges....well...NOT too many Dodges until the last 90's....Dodge trucks in the 80's were junk to pu it mildly and I have the documentation to prove it. Millions of documented miles on all kinds of vehcile.

Anyway,,,,The new vehicles are ALL nice and will do the job. I would not be affraid to buy any make. It comes to a personal preference and loyalty....LOYALTY? WHAT DOE THAT MEAN????

TIMEMACHINE · 01-16-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DFord79

The biggest changes We are going to see in the next comple years is in the power trains in ALL vehicles. Power is delivered if different ways with different motors and manufacturers. Ford, and Chevy have had a basic philosophy for years, Ford had haulers,,Chevy had trucks that acted like cars, smooth and quiet. That is all changing. With pickups of the past and even now loaded is the determining factor. GMs would drive nicer empty and Fords would feel better with loads on them I know this....I has a fleet of 30 pickups in a delivery service for 30 years. I bought Ford, Chevys, and Dodges....well...NOT too many Dodges until the last 90's....Dodge trucks in the 80's were junk to pu it mildly and I have the documentation to prove it. Millions of documented miles on all kinds of vehcile.

Anyway,,,,The new vehicles are ALL nice and will do the job. I would not be affraid to buy any make. It comes to a personal preference and loyalty....LOYALTY? WHAT DOE THAT MEAN????

Good post...experience is always great information....and your question; "Loyalty? What does that mean?" is a tough question to say the least. There is always the dictionary version, but I prefer the simple one....to me it means take care of those who take care of you.

time

pmclemore · 01-16-2008, 10:14 AM

Forgive me for not reading the article, but who is building Ford's diesels? Or did they make nice with International. I mean Navistar.

Pat

DFord79 · 01-16-2008, 11:15 AM

Ford is currently using Navistar for its diesel. I have not heard much lately on the subject but Ford said it is in the process of building an in house diesel for the 2010 Super Duty. Whatever in house means? The new 4.4 Diesel for the half ton is from LandRover. Its hard to keep up with the Diesel thing and Ford right now. Ford is selling LandRover and Jaguar but that don't mean they won't use the engines from LandRover. GM sold Allison too..but continues to use thier transmission. They are in litigation over contracts/ and warrenty issues etc. with Navistar at last report. Not sure what is settled but they are trying to get out of some liabilities to build their own diesel. Buy the way the new 4.4 diesel with 300hp and 530lbs torque vary well could be the 'STANDARD" diesel for the super dulty with a new Powerstroke of 6.7 litres (the new inhouse engine) as an options on some Super Duties. That was published in the Detroit Press. I wish 2010 would hurry up...lol.

safari 28 · 01-16-2008, 09:06 PM

I spent some time in the Ft Collins ford dealership yesterday getting an oil change.It took almost 2 hours???? You can tell ford is in a battle for the f150 and doing all they can to market the difference between them and toyota.They have a video that plays constantly and gives interesting features of the 150 from ring and pinion size to to bolts that hold the bed to the frame. Attention to detail on cooling of brakes and cooling of the engine and capacities of radiator and the overall attention to fit and finish.Some areas the comparison looked like car vs truck regarding control arms and spring width/ The frame difference is just unbelievable even compared to chevrolet and dodge. No matter how you cut it, the marketing effort is in high gear. If you are in the market for a half ton take the time to look at the presentation. I never did and it helped explain why this truck has exceeded expectations regarding extensive towing.

Ramp · 01-16-2008, 09:50 PM

I work in a plant that makes parts for the powerstroke Ford engine. And yes they are going to a Ford built engine as is Chevy. We are trying to get some of the Ford buisness. Honda is also building a small diesel car. I drive a VW TDI desiel it gets 50 mpg and has loads of power, I think diesel is the wave of the future.

Jim & Susan · 01-16-2008, 10:23 PM

Any ideas/info on pricing $$$$ for the '09? I didn't see anything on the link.

Jim

DFord79 · 01-16-2008, 10:48 PM

NO priceing yet....and Ford has not released any tow specs yet for the 09.....but I hear from some UNLRELIABLE..lol...sorces....they are going to raise the half ton bar again for towing to close the standard 3/4 ton specs. You can already spec a standard cab with an 11,000# tow package...so...it will be more than that.

Pricing....just take this years prices....and add some..lol...You can bet that Platenum with be real spendy...Its got more elegant seats than a Mercedies.

DFord79 · 01-16-2008, 10:51 PM

BRRRR is right....just came in from outside...its 14 out at 9 pm.

DPeakMD · 01-17-2008, 03:27 AM

There are some interesting videos on YouTube that detail the 2009 MY model-year changes. Initally I thought this would be just a 'make-over', but they really have made a lot of impressive-sounding changes. I think the "Platinum Edition" would look cool with an Airstream! Has anyone seen towing specs yet?

Jim & Susan · 01-17-2008, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramp

......I drive a VW TDI desiel it gets 50 mpg and has loads of power, I think diesel is the wave of the future.

Does anybody know why VW stopped building these? Or maybe they just stopped selling them here in the States? I suspect they could sell as many as they could get over these days. What makes this particular engine so much more fuel effecient than other small engines?

Jim

tamis · 01-17-2008, 04:54 AM

Nice looking truck!

There are some great, small diesel engines out there. I don't know why they aren't in the US. My Step Son just bought a BMW 5 series wagon in the UK, with a diesel, claims he gets 45 MPG. Mighty good for a big, heavy wagon. Can't buy one here though.

Buy the way, any of you folks that have a 7.3 Ford Diesel, There is a recall on the CPS, that came out in the past month. I was having some problems with intermittent stalling on my truck for the past 2 weeks. Turned out to be the CPS, which they replaced for free. The notifications haven't gone out yet, but go get a new one.

T

Minnie's Mate · 01-17-2008, 07:33 AM

I have the tail gate step and bed extender in my '08 F-250 and like them both. I wish I had the cargo management system and the side box step on mine. If I were in the market for an F-150, the Platinum Edition would be it!

dpandorf · 01-19-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DPeakMD

There are some interesting videos on YouTube that detail the 2009 MY model-year changes. Initally I thought this would be just a 'make-over', but they really have made a lot of impressive-sounding changes. I think the "Platinum Edition" would look cool with an Airstream! Has anyone seen towing specs yet?

Ask and you shall receive: I took a couple frame grabs from one of the videos on Ford's website advertising the new 2009 F150.

Ford Vehicles: The new '09 F-150: Built for you

markdoane · 01-19-2008, 09:26 PM

Trailer Sway Control? Finally!

"This advanced technology, standard on all '09 F-150s, uses a combination of reduced engine power and selective wheel braking through the AdvanceTrac with RSC (Roll Stability Control) System to help you maintain trailer control*"

*Remember that even advanced technology cannot overcome the laws of physics. It's always possible to lose control of a vehicle due to inappropriate driver input for the conditions.

2airishuman · 01-19-2008, 10:31 PM

good to see ford adding this feature, if it works.

chrysler added it last model year.

new 1/2 ton looks good!

but i want a lincoln-ized superduty!

cheers
2air'

rseagle · 01-20-2008, 05:46 AM

Do my eyes deceive me? Is that 2009 F-150 towing a 34' Airstream? While I'm confident that the diesel can pull it, I'm suspicious about the rear suspension having enough strength for the trailer's tongue weight and sufficient extra for a bed full of goodies.

fastrob · 01-20-2008, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim & Susan

Does anybody know why VW stopped building these? Or maybe they just stopped selling them here in the States? I suspect they could sell as many as they could get over these days. What makes this particular engine so much more fuel effecient than other small engines?

Jim

VW still builds them.
Maine is in bed with California and a few others to have stricter standards than the US regulations which are very limiting in themselves. Sometimes I think some states and the US government are trying to put US manufacturers out of business, to make the US a third world country.

R