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Old 10-29-2020, 09:22 PM   #1
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Temps dropping!

The weather shows tomorrow low of 23 and a high of 40. The next day above freezing, the say after low of 28 and high of 43.... We didn't want to winterize since we are heading south soon. We have 2019 International 25FBQ.
Does anyone know how much leeway we have below 32 degrees overnight?
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If you have a shore power, put an electric heater on inside at 45f and turn the water heater on, you are good down to 20 F for a few hours. Only the outdoor shower is at risk. Driving below freezing, consider keeping the furnace on at 40-45 F. No heat? best to drain the fresh water lines and add a splash of antifreeze to the P-traps and the water pump. The tanks are fine if the temperature average is above freezing. If the average is below, they will start freezing after a day and a half without furnace heat. Drain them if you don't run the furnace. If the temperature averages below 28 all day you need to keep the heat on inside or purge the lines.
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Old 10-29-2020, 09:46 PM   #3
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Fiddyl...need more info. shore power, storage outside?

Suggest take a read here...lots of variables involved. FWIW, otr, i've been in the low 20's but parked and no shore power, it all changes.

https://www.airforums.com/forums/f45...ng-216042.html

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Ps, you can always summerize when SB. Often a days drive makes akk the diff. When we lived in Eugene, getting past Shasta SB was the key.

You can also drive with the prop furnace on low if it"s below 30.I
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We have shore power, and are parked in family's driveway and sleeping in the trailer during the visit. Keeping it warm inside with the propane for us to sleep.
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What is FWIW and OTR?
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For What It's Worth and On The Road.....


Except the outdoor shower, You should be fine unless it drops below freezing all day. Watch the outdoor shower. remove the hose and maybe stuff the area with bubble wrap.
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We have shore power, and are parked in family's driveway and sleeping in the trailer during the visit. Keeping it warm inside with the propane for us to sleep.

Your factory installed propane furnace duct *should* be routed to the tanks and keeping the pipes warm. If they are functioning as intended and you are keeping the furnace going, even set relatively low, you should be fine, especially at those "only mostly cold" temps. If it were below zero, you might start to worry, but dipping just below freezing overnight shouldn't be an issue. Sticking a small electric space heater in an open cabinet where the pipes run wouldn't hurt.


edit: keep the windows covered (if you have cloth blinds, even just those will help a lot), and if you can remove the ceiling vent screens, stuff a pillow in each vent and it will make a huge difference
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Thanks Brian I was just going to respond.

"Sticking a small electric space heater in an open cabinet where the pipes run wouldn't hurt."



As I indicated in the above link, this is key. In our 20 there is a alu cover in the bathroom that shields the ABS venting. I remove that and place a space heater there, then open the vanity door so warm air can circulate thru my critical zone...FW & BW connections, exterior shower.


Like others have said, you should be fine.
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With a low temp of 23, if it were mine, I'd winterize it.



I really, REALLY, don't want to deal with troubleshooting a leak from a busted pipe or connection.
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Thanks everyone. We decided to blow out the pipes today. Grey and Black tanks we will drive out to Cabelas tomorrow and dump. We aren't under 32 yet, but it snowed all day anyway here in Connecticut. So weird, usually it is after Thanksgiving or even Nov 15 we get snow. Anyway, it is expected to drop to 21 tonight. We will keep sleeping in it but use the house for bathroom now.Click image for larger version

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My take, whenever the temp drops to freezing, your playing Russian Roulete with frozen pipes.
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