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Old 10-15-2007, 07:21 PM   #1
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Need some Airstream 101 help for year round living


I looking a purchasing a couple year old airstream to work & live. My Current vechile is 2004 toyota tundra capable of towing 7200 GVWR I have limited myself to a 19' or 23' 'stream. By the numbers the 23' stream wieghts approximately 4500 lbs dry. I think my toyota should be able to handle this. Since I will be hauling it thru the rockies I do not want to come close to the 7200. The Factory floorplans are a little wierd in that the 19' and 23' have regular showers in them- were the 20' have a dry bath? -- what is a Dry bath? The 23 will have more space inside including storage, but the 19 would seem almost as comfortable - except that I would have be a little more organized for the closet/pantry space is more limited. Anyone have any thoughts on space requirements for living/working out of one for months at a time? Can this be accomplished in a 19'?

How does the 19' tow. Is it pretty bouncy do to lack of the tandem axle -- backing it up should a little harder too- right (when compared to a tandem)

Second concidersation is this - I am also a skier and will be using the 'stream below freezing at hight altitudes.

How four season is an Airstream. Is there anything special I will need to do to the trailer to make it a true four season? do I need to add insulation line the fresh water and waste tanks. Do I need to run the propane heater when towing at below freezing - etc. Or can I simple winterize the camper, tow it out to the winter camping site, turn on the heater for a while, then hook to there water and sewer? Should be that easy right?

Last comment is this: Seems like the used ration is that for every (5) 19' 'stream there is (1) 23' 'stream for sale. I guess because the cost difference between a 23' and 25' is minimal and the floor plan for the 25' is a lot nicer. the down side is that 25' dry wieght is close to 6500 lbs might to much for my current tow vechile?

Thank you for reading my rambles - Please provide sound advise if you have it

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Old 10-15-2007, 07:49 PM   #2
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Hi kforum and welcome to AIR Forums!

I would consider most any RV to be 3 seasons for much of the north continental U.S. Towing in snow conditions is not safe and frigid high pressure on the back of a front will defeat any mobile gypsy. There are some things you can do to hunker down in one location. Your furnace has ducting that goes parallel to the plumbing -- running the furnace on LP will go a long ways toward keeping things unfrozen. Space heaters seem more convenient but will not run any heat along the floor where it matters. Interior condensation is an issue in such a small volume -- one just about has to leave a window open a bit to let it escape. The Arctic Fox line is as good as it gets -- nothing is going to be trouble free in the low teens and all will require that you are nearby each and every night. You might consider using a bulk LP tank if you are parked for a couple months or longer. Water management is going to be an issue -- you won't be able to keep a hose hooked up nor a waste slinky draining constantly. It would work better if you could be frugal inside the trailer and haul enough water for cooking only and bathe elsewhere.

Take a long browse through the wintering subforum here. And ask questions long and hard.

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Old 10-15-2007, 08:26 PM   #3
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tent camping

Thank you for your reply.

We have been tent camping around Breckinridge Co. For the last couple year 's for one week around ski season. The Tiger Camground in Breck. Co. is open year round and requires that you hook up there water and sewer system. (even in winter) The do not allow pop ups/nor tent campers - which why we were back country camping -- which totally is a pain. Everything freezes, and you are in ski clothes 16 hours a day and sleep on your outwear at night.

I have never been to the tiger campground -- but the place is booked up year round -- I guess I will call and ask if they have heated water/sewer lines.

I agree the pulling a camper in winter lets say from saint louis mo, to Co. in after xmas is daunting. I think it is more than possible to accomplish if wait for the roads to clear.

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Winter aside what about trying to live out of 19' seem do able does it not?
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:31 PM   #4
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I agree with CanoeStream suggestions.
1.Water is gonna be ur main issues.
2.Heat, depending on ur location and source, can be trying.
3. Since ur at the looking stage, consider some of the later models that have heated assist for the holding tank.
This is usually in the form of a heat pad under the tank. Most, I believe, are 12v powered. Of course, if you're hooked up to 120VAC it should still function properly.
4. One thing I fought in the winter was moisture on the inside windows. I would wipe those down every day and, keep wetness out of the unit. For example, if you make a pot of coffee in the morning..Get rid of the coffee grounds quickly after it's finis perking..
5. When living in a trailer of any kind full-time, you're gonna run up against all kinds of unique issues that demand creativity and, adjustments to your old habits. Don't tell me ur a "pack rat"
I agree with CanoeStream excellent assessment again abt towing in the winter time in high altitude. But, if you sure to wash it down often~
Good luck~!
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