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03-06-2015, 02:05 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Bellevue
, Washington
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Sofa/Pull Out Bed - Make More Comfortable?
We have a 2014 25FB Flying Cloud. When we have anyone sleep on the sofa/slide out bed they usually complain of it not be very comfortable. Your hips tend to fall in the crack between the two cushions that make up the sofa/bed. It might have been better if the design called for one long cushion instead of two two cushions? Regardless, has anyone gotten the same complaint and found a solution that makes the sofa/bed a bit more comfortable to sleep on?
Thanks.
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03-06-2015, 02:45 PM
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Rivet Master 
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,183
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Possibly add some straps with Velcro to hold the gap tighter?
I have similar issues with my dinette/bed setup. We won't talk about the tendency of the table top to slip off the seats. I'm going to put an air lift pedestal in place of the folding leg to locate it more accurately and prevent slipping. It's a bit crude at present.
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03-06-2015, 03:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2014 27' FB International
Arlington
, Virginia
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 107
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Sofa/Pull Out Bed - Make More Comfortable?
This might sound overly complicated but we do this for our two smaller children who sleep on it: we bought a queen sized foam topper with its own padded zip up cover, and cut it to fit the width of the pull out bed. The cut off piece of foam topper that we trimmed off (one long strip) is placed on the slide out, under the long back cushion which makes up the pullout bed. The full-size foam topper is placed on top, securing everything with its own elastic cover that goes around all the cushions (holding everything in place). Then we add yet another full-size elasticized mattress sheet, along with the other bed linens.
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03-06-2015, 04:01 PM
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Rivet Master 
1976 31' Sovereign
Missouri City
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,233
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jreckin
We have a 2014 25FB Flying Cloud. When we have anyone sleep on the sofa/slide out bed they usually complain of it not be very comfortable. Your hips tend to fall in the crack between the two cushions that make up the sofa/bed. It might have been better if the design called for one long cushion instead of two two cushions? Regardless, has anyone gotten the same complaint and found a solution that makes the sofa/bed a bit more comfortable to sleep on?
Thanks.
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This is an age old problem that has not been corrected over the years. Bottom line they are uncomfortable to sit on and even worse to sleep on. There is no "Solution that makes the sofa/bed a bit more comfortable to sleep on". Sorry. Except to do what others have done including me with my 1976 31' Sovereign, take it out and install Recliners. But, you say, that does not make in to a bed. True but you spend more time sitting on them and they are so comfortable that you you can sleep like a log on them as well.
Here are some interior pics that include the leather wall away recliners that I installed a few years back.
Airstream Interior 2010.pdf
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1976 31' Sovereign
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03-06-2015, 04:16 PM
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Rivet Master 
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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If you are only sleeping one person take off the backrest and sleep on the cushion without pulling the tray out. A second peron can sleep in the converted dinette area. That's is how I sleep on it when the kid come with us and she and DW sleep in the front queen.
Kelvin
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03-06-2015, 04:54 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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This is actually a perennial problem for those of us who own an Airstream Interstate; our convertible sofa/lounges are notorious for having padding that's thin (or nonexistent) right where the sleeper's natural pressure points happen to be. The generally used solution is to add a pad on top of the cushions. I use a cot pad from Cabela's that I can roll up and use as a bolster when it's not in use to bridge across the less-padded portions of the bed. Other people use memory-foam toppers, but my apelike proportions (long torso, short legs) put my natural pressure points on the cushions rather than between them so I don't need quite as much supplemental padding.
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03-07-2015, 10:07 AM
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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I find sleeping in the gap between the cushions quite comfortable, but I generally don't even let the sofa out- I just sleep on the couch as a couch- give me a blanket and a pillow and I'm good to go-
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03-07-2015, 10:51 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2017 23' International
Ridgefield
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 306
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When our young grandchildren sleep on the sofa, there are no complaints. When we have slept on the pull out sofa while guests slept in our Sleep Number bed, WE had plenty of complaints.
We used a tempura type, 4" cover (Costco) which helped, but there is a slight "slope" or slant to the forward edge of the sofa. Three problems:...Where to stow the blasted topper?...(they take up an enormous amount of room even in the bed of a TV) and the process of setting up the bed and take down every night...a pain,,,,and lastly that cover is very heavy.
Real solution? I have no great answer. We kayak and often sleep in a tent with a quality air mattress on the ground ( of course) and the tent sleeping is far more comfortable than that dratted sofa!
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03-07-2015, 01:33 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zigidachs
Real solution? I have no great answer.
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Hang a hammock over the sofa?
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03-07-2015, 02:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
2009 34' Classic
North Richland Hills
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 18
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We use a Full size Colman Air Mattress with Full size sheets. Just blow it up and set it on top of the pulled out sofa. It folds up easily and you can adjust the firmness with air pressure.
No more falling into the sofa crack.
Sleep well and keep traveling.
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03-07-2015, 02:30 PM
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Rivet Master 
2002 31' Classic
Currently Looking...
Monroe
, Iowa
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 649
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How hard is it to take the sofa out? Is it bolted down?
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03-07-2015, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Master 
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,421
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I use a feather mattress as a topper to the bench seats and find it very comfortable. You could also get a foam topper to do the same thing. I like the feather because it can be rolled up quite tightly and take up less space than the foam.
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03-07-2015, 04:03 PM
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S/OS #005
2004 28' Safari S/O
Georgetown
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 58
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Sofa bed
We have 2004 safari with a sofa; we purchased a double foam topper from costco & it makes the sofa very comfortable. We also did the same for the twin beds cutting the foam to fit and laying on top of the original mattresses. It is the blue gel foam toppers we have used.
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03-09-2015, 01:25 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Bellevue
, Washington
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 6
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Thanks for all the ideas. We decided to go with a a fitted sheet to go over the cushion (holds them together) and a air mattress (ALPS Mountaineering Comfort Series Air Pad) on top of that. Thanks again.
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