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Old 10-04-2010, 12:39 PM   #1
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Dinette (Gaucho) replacment

Hello there.

I am looking at making a drastic change to my 1975 Landyacht Trade Wind 25 ft dinette.

I never liked the couch and table combination. I find it awkward to use ad eat on. I am thinking of changing it but would like to consult with you on what best to do.

Any ideas or suggestions? Pictures?

I am attaching a before ad after pdf file to the message. It will give you an idea of what I would like to do.

Thanks for your input.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:28 PM   #2
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I have a dinette in our trailer and we like it very much. It folds down into a bed when we need more sleeping space. I think it's a very flexible way to use that front space. I don't see any reason what you are planning wouldn't work. Have you looked into what is located under the gaucho that may need to be relocated?
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:37 PM   #3
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That is exactly what I am planning to do to my 1965 Safari.
With the gaucho you have your back to the biggest window in the trailer.
How does that make any sense.
The whole idea of having an Airstream is go out and see the world.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:22 PM   #4
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Hello Stephanie and BWH!

Stephanie! That's exactly what I have in mind. BWH, you said it. I don't know why they did it this way.

There is nothing under the gaucho (I know later models house the battery there but mine is at the very back under the bathroom - which is another mistake in my view. I would much prefer the bathroom in the middle and a nice bedroom/office at the very back).

Thank you for the pictures and encouragement to you both.

BWH, when you do it, send me pictures...

Have a nice evening.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:37 PM   #5
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We did the same as you suggest in our 25 Safari. The table and couch were monumentally uncomfortable and the interior of our 2004 was looking worn and tired.
A replacement dinette was purchased at discountrvfurnature.com. A local carpenter was hired to install a composite floor and build in the dinette. Total cost was less than $5000 and the result exceeds our expectation.
A selection of dinettes are available and a dinette where the table compresses down to make a bed is also available.
If you send me a private message with your email address, I will send pictures.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:57 PM   #6
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Good choice. A bunch of people here have made the change over. I did mine last winter and couldn’t be happier.
There are a number of threads to search through for ideas on the different ways to do essentially the same thing.
As far as cost, ours ran about $1000 doing most of the work myself. This included new vinyl flooring back to the bedroom. Surprisingly the bulk of the cost is in the upholstery.

Good luck with your conversion.
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Old 10-04-2010, 04:04 PM   #7
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Here are pics of our dinette modification, if I have attached them correctly. Please bear with me.
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Old 10-04-2010, 04:33 PM   #8
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Under my picture and info on the left side of this post is a link to images. Click on them and you will see the dinette in our 1977 Trade Wind. I can email the measurements if you want me to.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:10 PM   #9
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Same issue with the Bunny and I....

We have a 72 International 31'.... Our bathroom is in the rear, so we are looking for a sofa that pulls out into a Queen Island bed in the front room. Has anyone out there in Airstream land found a Queen pull-out that is nice to sleep on? Trex
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:59 PM   #10
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I had a 72 Tradewind and I cut the stock folding table down about 8 inches in the width. It was too big for the space and pretty heavy. Was a mess to cut down and rebuild. The gaucho I recovered and put in new back braces and foam. A dinette would have been better but since the gaucho frame was good I stuck to the original.
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Old 10-05-2010, 01:46 AM   #11
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Hi, click on my blog, "2005 Safari remodel"
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:44 AM   #12
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Hello Robert!

Amazing work of art. I wish I had a fraction of your skills. Thank you for sharing your work.

Can you tell me which seller you used on E-bay for the foam? I'll follow your advice on the dual density seats.

Have a good day!
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Old 10-05-2010, 07:17 AM   #13
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Hello RichHog!

Yes, I have been considering not doing this modification as well. Everything is in top condition (for a 1975 trailer). However, I think I will do it just for the benefit of looking out of the front window instead of having my back to it. Plus, I really dislike the shorter table and having to use extra chairs to have people sit on both sides.

I use to own a Westfalia and I really miss its community of helpful-joyous members. By the response to my dinette query on this forum, I feel like I have found another home in this Airstream community. Thank you for having me and for your help in this.

I'll report back when I start doing the work. My plan is to :
1. Strip the floor carpet and replace it by either vinyl or bamboo.
2. Get rid of the curtains. Almost all my windows have shades or venitians anyways. I will try to find something for the front window.
3. Do the Dinette work.
4. Wake up in the Spring and go camping...

Have a good winter.
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Old 10-05-2010, 07:58 AM   #14
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Old 10-05-2010, 10:23 AM   #15
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Do you have a pattern for your dinette or did you just make it up as you go? I would like to install a dinette in our 1960 18' Traveler. My carpentry skills are ok as long as I have a pattern to go by.
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:27 PM   #16
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Lucymcdog,

I'm not sure who you are asking about plans. I posted the measurements for our dinette in my pics (see lower left), but they are for a 1970's model which is wider than your 1960's Traveller. If you only have an 18' you might potentially want to reduce the dinette size a bit. Get a measuring tape out and see how large you think it should be.

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Old 10-05-2010, 05:53 PM   #17
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Measurements

The seats are 23" x 40" and the table is 30" wide. When made into a bed it measures 40" x 76". There are shelves (One on each side) behind the seat backs that are cut to match the curve of the trailer walls as is the shelf under the front windows. The water tank is behind the step under the table, it's the width of the trailer and about 10" high by the width of the tank, maybe 12". There are more photos posted on my Blog.
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:38 PM   #18
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We did pretty much the same thing in our '71 TradeWind. I did the design myself, working from total width and trying to make the resulting bed approximately double bed sized. This is the result. The resulting bed is about 54" wide and about 74" long.

We haven't finished the table yet - at this point it's just a top that fits between the two benches. We've only used it for sleeping on so far: very comfortable.

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Old 10-05-2010, 10:27 PM   #19
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dinettes seem a better use of space

yes i like dinettes better too. feel free to check out my rebuild of my dinette (on my 56 bubble) and interior on my thread here as it may give you another idea on your build: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...h-62815-3.html i think i have some pics in my gallery too. dinettes seem more warm too becasue you can face your family for talks and games. i'd post a pic but i'm on a different computer at the moment. cheers--ted
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Old 02-27-2011, 05:12 PM   #20
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Hello everybody!

Just a quick message to let you know that I have not done anything to my Airstream this winter. I am now ready and waiting for warmer temperatures before starting...

I will post pictures as I start.

Have a good start to Spring.
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