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Old 10-09-2008, 08:02 PM   #81
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Here are the other three pics.
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Thanks for the pictures. I am amazed at how much room between the bunks and the cabinets.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:59 PM   #83
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Yeah it's not bad at all for the kids, but if you're the adult sleeping in the beds below, don't get up too quickly, especially in the middle of the night, or you will find out the real meaning of Aluminitis!
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:38 PM   #84
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Re-opening this thread! I'm looking for hardware for the wire-style folding frame bunkbed. If you have frames, I'll take them off your hands.

The keyhole suspension plates are very hard to find - I've seen a few thin guage ones from England that I wouldn't dare rig from. Hopefully, there are still a few left somewhere!

If you're trying to build the wires yourself, the parts you're looking for are swage shank ball for 1/8" wire rope. If a marine / rigging shop has those in stock, you should be able to bribe them to build you a couple of 32" sets with their crimping tools. The weakest link in this system, which appears to be rated at 150lbs., is the ceiling itself. The wires and crimped shank ball ends have a very high working-load-limit.

Please drop me a line if you want to part with your bunks!

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PS: Thanks to Andy at Inland RV for hooking me up with two of the four ceiling keyhole brackets I've been looking for! Still need two more!!!
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:57 PM   #85
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I need the other kind...

Erik,
I have some bunk bed hardware for the kind of bunk bed you're looking for. I have two wall brackets and one keyhole suspension plate. If I can find the bunk bed hardware that I'm looking for then I won't need mine.

I need the older kind of bunk bed hardware, for a wood bunk bed. I need two metal pieces that attach to the wall. Like this:
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I also need a pair of latches that keep the bunk in an upright position during the day. Like this:

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Old 08-19-2011, 10:24 AM   #86
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Thanks, Lynette! I tried to PM you, but I'm not trusted yet. Also didn't want to hijack this whole thread for my personal search. That said... here is the classified ad I posted for bunk hardware: Airstream Foldable Bunkbed Frames / Hardware - Airstream Trailer Classifieds - Airstreams Trailers For Sale

Just took delivery of "Ohana", our new 1974 Ambassador last night. Almost entirely original save for a fresh new floor and upholstery. Pics coming!
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:33 AM   #87
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Decided to build out the bunk frames from 1" OD schedule 40 aluminum tubing and Hollaender speedrail corners / support brackets with plywood support (as Airstream did in 74). It's going to be a bit spendy, but I'm fully committed. Anodized aluminum all.
  • $92 1" Tubing (Freedom Metal, CLT)
    • 2) 6' cuts
    • 4) 3' cuts
  • $10 Stainless Ball Shank Swage Ends (Fastenal)
  • $0 Shielded Airplane Cable (Garage item)
  • $153 Hollaender (Barbizon Lighting)
    • 4) SR31 Corners
    • 6) SR17M1 Eye Bracket
    • 4) SR27M Double Eye Bracket (ply support / wire rope receiver)
    • 4) SR411 Articulated Wall Bracket
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Decided to build out the bunk frames from 1" OD schedule 40 aluminum tubing and Hollaender speedrail corners / support brackets with plywood support (as Airstream did in 74). It's going to be a bit spendy, but I'm fully committed. Anodized aluminum all.
[*]$92 1" Tubing (Freedom Metal, CLT)
[*]2) 6' cuts[*]4) 3' cuts
[*]$10 Stainless Ball Shank Swage Ends (Fastenal)[*]$0 Shielded Airplane Cable (Garage item)[*]$153 Hollaender (Barbizon Lighting)
[*]4) SR31 Corners[*]6) SR17M1 Eye Bracket[*]4) SR27M Double Eye Bracket (ply support / wire rope receiver)[*]4) SR411 Articulated Wall Bracket
Pictures? Pretty please? :-)
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Old 08-30-2011, 11:30 AM   #89
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I've been really bad about pictures... so far! We are doing the Ambassador shake-down run this weekend. Lots of photos to follow. I'm getting the aluminum tubing and swage shank ball hardware tomorrow - bunk beds are imminent!

BTW, thanks to the members who put those impossible-to-find round keyhole brackets into our hands. The last pair are going out in the mail today!
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Changed some vendors, but spec is the same...

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Decided to build out the bunk frames from 1" OD schedule 40 aluminum tubing and Hollaender speedrail corners / support brackets with plywood support (as Airstream did in 74). It's going to be a bit spendy, but I'm fully committed. Anodized aluminum all.
  • $70 1" OD 6061 .0125 Tubing (MetalsDepot.com)
    • 2) 6' cuts
    • 4) 3' cuts
  • $10 Stainless Ball Shank Swage Ends (Certex)
  • $0 Shielded Airplane Cable (Garage item)
  • $153 Hollaender (Barbizon Lighting)
    • 4) SR31 Corners
    • 6) SR17M1 Eye Bracket
    • 4) SR27M Double Eye Bracket (ply support / wire rope receiver)
    • 4) SR411 Articulated Wall Bracket
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:50 PM   #91
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Can't wait to see pictures! You can see photos of our custom bunks if you click on my pictures.
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Old 09-01-2011, 08:38 AM   #92
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This poor photo is of the shank ball terminator swaged onto the 1/8" vinyl-coated galvanized cable. Though it looks like the cable is wider than the fitting, it is the vinyl jacket magnifying the cable inside that creates the illusion. The working load limit of this cable, and the crimped terminator, is 345lbs.

These play into the Airstream keyhole suspension plates, which were riveted into the ceiling panels. I may instead attach these plates to the bulkhead walls for added strength.



At the other end, there will be a ferruled loop over the vinyl, which will protect the kids from stray steel ends.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:40 PM   #93
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More bits showed up today. The Hollaender fittings actually came in as 1" ID / 1.25OD, so I'm back to 1" ID 6063 aluminum schedule 40. Ah well, beefier is better.

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Does anyone still have these brackets????
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Try a marine supply. The might not have the exact ones but will have similar
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Does anyone still have these brackets????
We have a few of the originals left.

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When you all get one of these bunks up and running I would love to see a picture. Our little Caravel is pretty small, still okay for our little one's but the day will come when a bunk would be great! It may not be possible in our little trailer, but still can't wait to see what you come up with!
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I have Ohana home today, so I'll post some pictures up later when I get in. The key thing we ran up against on this project is finding a rigid, lightweight platform to put a mattress on. The original was a collapsible aluminum frame with webbing, which is, as far as I can tell, completely unobtainable in the 21st century.

After some experimentation with various plywoods and other materials, we settled on 30" hollow-core 30" doors from Lowes. The doors are incredibly light, rigid and have a perimeter frame to take carriage bolts from the Hollaender fittings. The doors are standard dimension, which means we had to take a panel saw to one for the bunk / berth that is behind the oven bulkhead.

The swaged airplane cables go to four of the Airstream keyhole plates (Andy used to have these), which are made to the ceiling with 1/8" x 1/2" rivets.

Mattresses were sourced from Ikea and fit perfectly.
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Sorry about the size of these images - I'm a little green about how to get my gallery and saved Airstream images into threads. Anyway, these are the Hollaender SpeedRail for 1" IPS aluminum T6061 pipe upper bunks we built. They are made to the wall with two Hollaender #41 flanges (no image of these yet) and then #3 corners and #17 support flanges for the hollow-core doors, which were cut down for the berth behind the oven.
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All,
I made two bunk beds about three years ago. They are the primary sleeping arrangements for my kids (10 & 7). In fact, one is being slept in at this very moment!

I made them out of rectangular aluminum tube. I cut and welded the corners because I could not get a good looking bend without a real tubing bender. I drilled and cut the slots for the ball ends. I also made "custom" hinges. They are just two pieces of L shaped aluminum plate bolted together and welded into the bed frame. I made the "webbing" out of some fabric. Originally, I sewed it onto the frame, but it kept getting loose. I went back and installed eyelets into the fabric. Now I run some 550 cord through the eyelets. When it starts to sag, I just pull the cord and tighten it back up. For mattress, I bought 2" memory foam and cut it to fit. I sewed up some mattress covers and put the memory foam inside.

To keep the bunks from falling during travel, I drilled holes through the bed frame and wall hooks and put a pin in the hole. For the cables, I found a "just right" sized bolt and wingnut. I put the head of the bolt in the slot then tighten the wingnut. So far, this system hasn't failed me.

As for hardware, my trailer had one set. Luckily, my old neighbor had a trailer restoration business and he sold me another complete set.

I used 1/8 cable for the suspension lines and got the ball ends from McMaster-Carr. The local boat repairmen swaged the ends on for me.

I don't have the storage brackets to hold the beds when they are not in use. We just keep them up all the time.

My kids love them! It's also nice to be able to go to sleep without having to pull out the gaucho. We can also comfortable sleep six!

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