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Old 07-22-2015, 11:35 PM   #21
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Dual pane windows probably wouldn't hold up to the bouncing and bumping. They fail on stationary houses!

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Old 07-23-2015, 12:32 AM   #22
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I did this last summer and this spring. Used Prodex mostly , but came up a little short and finished up with reflectex(silver bubble wrap you see at lowes and Home Depot). My 23' used one full Prodex roll which was 48"x 170' or some length close, and a few rolls of 16" reflectex. They sell wider reflectex, but for what I needed to finish up it was a good size. Both were pretty easy to work with, the Prodex cut a little easier.
Key is getting the trapped air layers, you don't want it going right against the skin.
I did 2 layers of the insulation. The process involved cutting about 5,000, 1"x1" square pieces of 1/2" thick rigid insulation. Yep, 5,000, a little over a full sheet got cut up into little cubes. I set up a little station and would use a razor knife to cut a bunch of 1"x48" strips. Then just slice 1" pieces and feed another inch to the razor. Set up a little 'jig' on a small 2'x4' piece of plywood. Eventually cut through the plywood with the razor cutting in the same spot over and over.
Each section between horizontal and vertical ribs gets done individually do you have to measure and cut the Prodex or reflectex to fit each one.
First I would go to each section and take some of the 1" blocks, I would put a big dab of polyurethane sealant/adhesive(used black poly roofing sealant) on one side of the block and adhere some around the perimeter of the section and then some somewhat randomly in the interior portion, spaced to minimize conductive heat transfer, but enough so they would hold the insulation off the skin and create a air space. I'd let the poly set up over night then put a layer of insulation in. Then I hot glued(so I didn't have to wait for poly to set ) blocks to the face of the next layer of insulation, around its perimeter and spread out in the middle, then put that over the first layer. Each piece of of insulation was cut to fit snug at the edges of each section. You'll quickly realize that the ribs look straight and parallel but often aren't, do lots of measure and cut.
If you can imagine the layers from outside-in, it would be outer skin, foam block, insulation, foam block, insulation. But the foam block layers were really mostly air.
All the wiring got sandwiched between the layers of insulation so it wasn't against the outer or inner skins directly. Figured this will help keep it cooler and last longer and protect from chafing.
Took a lot of work, especially with my OCDism, and the way I did a few things, but I am very happy with it. No insulation can keep a closed up trailer sitting in the sun from getting hot inside. But if I go down to work on it and open up the windows and put the awnings out. It will easily stay very close to outdoor ambient. Haven't had a AC unit on the trailer for almost 2 years working on her so it definitely helps keep cool. No furnace either, When it's cold I turn on a small catalytic heater and it warms up quick(10 min), then I'll usually have to turn it off to keep from getting to hot, running it for 5-10 min an hour to keep it warm.
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Old 07-27-2015, 10:26 AM   #23
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These posts are on the end of a pretty old thread but still the topic is relevant. I believe there are some links that I supplied in one of the earlier posts in this thread to a number of details that I supplied for foil including some tests. I have a couple of quick suggestions here:

1. Using foam strips to space the foil off of the surfaces of the inner and outer walls works great. I put in just one layer of foil but 2 would indeed be better. I also found that a lot of the cavities were fine with just strips around the edges. I would add an additional strip here and there in the middle of very large cavities.

2. I found that if you held foil up against the cavity you were trying to fill that you could get the outline transferred to the foil by running your finger around the edges of the cavity while pressing on the foil.

3. It definitely pays to shop around for the best foil prices. Also the foil does not necessarily need to have bubbles in it. I think this would be especially true using 2 layers.

I would be happy to try to answer other questions about foil.

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Old 01-07-2016, 01:01 AM   #24
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Malcom, in one of your older (much older posts) you mentioned a study you did on different insulation. The link doesn't seem to be working. Do you still have the information? Can you repost it?
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:45 PM   #25
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Here is the link...

Here is the link to where most of my test results are - starting especially with post 82 in this thread.

Some other places with insulation testing are:

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