Sport 22 vs. F Cloud 20

[waninae39]

i would compare a 22Fb sport with a FC 23 FB

only those two models have dual sinks, even much larger AS's only have a useless single round sink
i guess no one does dishes (;

only 3 reasons to get the FC23 over the sport 22

• the bed has access on both sides
• dual wheel and not single
• more aisle space as the trailer is wider

downside

• wider need wider TV mirrors
• $20k more money

[centennialman]

A couple of additions to Boxite's post.
My FC20 has the emergency escape window at the dinette area and not over the galley sink. The television swivels out on a long arm and can be seen from anywhere. There are also tank heaters for super cold nights.

[TCwheels]

Originally Posted by waninae39

i would compare a 22Fb sport with a FC 23 FB



only those two models have dual sinks, even much larger AS's only have a useless single round sink

i guess no one does dishes (;


[/LIST]

The FC 20 has dual sinks AND usable counter space.

[PixieNGnome]

Originally Posted by The Flamingo

I have a 2018 22 FB Sport the microwave is also convection and an air fryer. Does a great job. Do all AS have heated grey/black water tanks? Mine are heated.

Yes all AS have heated tanks.

[wave man]

Mine does not have heated tanks. The furnace when running will warm the tanks, at the cost of the propane.

[centennialman]

My tanks are heated by electric mats....12 volt

[CKK]

As someone else said, the Outdoors RV trailers are beautiful and 4-season, but heavy. I would suggest looking at a 4-season Lance... great quality but just not so well known.

[overthatway]

Originally Posted by CKK

As someone else said, the Outdoors RV trailers are beautiful and 4-season, but heavy. I would suggest looking at a 4-season Lance... great quality but just not so well known.

I looked into a few of them. For the size i like, they are too heavy for my tow vehicle.

[CKK]

The Lance was heavy?? My 24' is only 5700#... didn't realize AS was so much lighter.

[overthatway]

Originally Posted by CKK

The Lance was heavy?? My 24' is only 5700#... didn't realize AS was so much lighter.

Yea, i am going with the 22 Sport, its ridiculously lighter and narrower than a standard travel trailer.

[uncle_bob]

Hi

There also are SOB's that are lighter than the equivalent AS model. Lots of ways to build things ....

Bob

[overthatway]

Originally Posted by uncle_bob

Hi

There also are SOB's that are lighter than the equivalent AS model. Lots of ways to build things ....

Bob

I don't think i know what you mean by SOB. I know that as something else

[uncle_bob]

Originally Posted by overthatway

I don't think i know what you mean by SOB. I know that as something else

Hi

SOB = Some Other Brand = generic reference to a trailer that is not an Airstream. What else could it possibly mean?

Yes, forums do build up a language all their own .... very much like the three year olds from who we take a lot of our behavior clues .....

Bob

[overthatway]

Thanks uncle_bob! In that case... When i was looking at the lighter SOBs that were rated as "premium" i did not like a single one. Had to get way heavy before they were even remotely appealing. Since my limiting factor is weight and not cost, it seems that Airstream is the only company out there that does not directly associate small with low quality and design.

[Etrax]

When we set out to buy an AS last year, we were all in on the 22 Sport. Felt like you got the most for your money. However, the longer I spent looking at different models, brochures, talking with my sales rep, and sitting in various AS, we ended up with the 27’ globetrotter. For me, spending time in the AS, one of the most important aspects are the views from inside the trailer. The wraparound window around the table is great and I felt like I would really miss that in the 22. In fact, the longer I sat in the 22, I started to feel a little closed in, with the rear of the trailer being taken up by the bathroom. Also, with it being skinnier, the interior SF is roughly the same as the 19 or 20. I also understood that the windows were not the same grade/quality/brand as the rest of the lineup.

Also, you really can’t get 4 around the table in the 22, unless 2 are kids. I can vouch for the fact that my AS does not hold temperature very long in the summer. The AC kicks on very frequently.

My advice would be the 20 over the 22 - it’s set up well for cooking. Good luck!

[gypsydad]

Not sure how this took a turn away from discussion of a Sport22 vs FC20? If your looking for something outside AS brand, I saw a really nice model built in Oregon few weeks back, called an Outdoors model my camping neighbor had. http://outdoorsrvmfg.com/ true 4 season with dual pain glass, heated everything, and was impressive in the layout. Did not look "cheap" like many do inside. The bath was sizable, the storage inside was very thought out, it was a 23' model with a small dinning slide out, but very nicely layed out, we thought. If I were looking outside AS, I would surely take a closer look at these.

[overthatway]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

Not sure how this took a turn away from discussion of a Sport22 vs FC20? If your looking for something outside AS brand, I saw a really nice model built in Oregon few weeks back, called an Outdoors model my camping neighbor had. http://outdoorsrvmfg.com/ true 4 season with dual pain glass, heated everything, and was impressive in the layout. Did not look "cheap" like many do inside. The bath was sizable, the storage inside was very thought out, it was a 23' model with a small dinning slide out, but very nicely layed out, we thought. If I were looking outside AS, I would surely take a closer look at these.

Yea! That's a great model, too heavy for me. My TV is a large SUV.

The thread keeps straying because my needs are not best suited to an airstream, but my tow rating is. I want to keep my dry weight under 5k so i can easily go through west coast passes.

[Louieless]

Originally Posted by overthatway

Yea! That's a great model, too heavy for me. My TV is a large SUV.

The thread keeps straying because my needs are not best suited to an airstream, but my tow rating is. I want to keep my dry weight under 5k so i can easily go through west coast passes.

Check out Oliver and Bigfoot, only true 4 season campers I'm told

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by overthatway

Yea! That's a great model, too heavy for me. My TV is a large SUV.

The thread keeps straying because my needs are not best suited to an airstream, but my tow rating is. I want to keep my dry weight under 5k so i can easily go through west coast passes.

Well then, I might share that we had a 17' Spirit Delux Casita for few years between our first AS, a 2006 25' Safari, and our second AS, a 2008 25' twin. The Casita was pretty nice, light weight, very functional, and easy to care for. We purchased a full queen size very comfortable foam mattress from Walmart, as was recommended on the Casita site. The Spirit Delux model has a separate dinning area for 2 so we did not need the larger dinning/bed conversion and just installed a permanent plywood platform with the mattress. Worked fine for our needs except, our boxer made it pretty interesting and could be cramped at times...which is why we went back to the 25' AS. One thing I didn't mention, is we purchased the Casita "used" 5 years old, after visiting the factory in TX. Found that a used Casita is pretty popular and we sold it for same as we paid, with a "line" of people interested in purchasing after 2.5 years of owning it. Safe investment if your not sure what your going to do...

If your not looking to use your trailer a lot, I can understand wanting to keep your current SUV TV as daily driver. For us, we have gone thru 2 brand new Tahoe's, and F150 Echoboost, and now have an F250 for TV's with our 4 AS's and Casita in the past 15 years. I guess it's all in your priorities...good luck!

[waninae39]

we have 2017 sport 22FB

if we were to replace it we would get a FC 23FB

why?

• 9" wider
• a bed than you can walk around and not have to crawl over your partner
• like the sport 22FB it has a double sink -most AS has a single round sink (;
• bigger grey tank