Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-04-2009, 03:34 PM   #1
I Bought it I Broke it...
 
clicknathan's Avatar
 
1976 31' Sovereign
Migratory , North America
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 110
Shasta vs. Airstream, the ultimate showdown

Howdy all,

So my wife and I have been considering getting an Airstream for awhile and now it looks like it's actually going to happen...

Ahem, perhaps I should rephrase...

I have been wanting an Airstream for some time and finally my wife seems to be into the idea. We already have an RV, so I guess it's only now that it's really starting to clunk out on us is she ready to consider alternatives.

Yesterday we were all go on getting a little Bambi, probably an older one, but we're still very much in the early stages of looking around when she drops the bomb on me that she might prefer to have one of these old Shasta trailers.

So I try and tell her things like "but an Airstream will last us the rest of our lives, they're aerodynamic and therefore will save us cash on gas and towing power requirements, and their is a huge community out there just waiting to help us figure out the ins and outs."

But she's still not convinced and is somehow deadset on one of these things, which I consider to be about the ugliest thing that exists.

She is not, however, irrational, and given that we will be using a small tow vehicle and that we do want the thing to last us a lifetime, there is room for convincing.

So my task put forth to you fine people is simple: can you give me any more reasons, some solid evidence that I can use to argue this case?

And please no "if you don't know, you never will" stuff.

Danke!
__________________

clicknathan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 03:42 PM   #2
3 Rivet Member
 
shermantic's Avatar
 
1972 Argosy 26
1973 Argosy 26
Fairmont , West Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 249
Images: 17
Nothing can't be fixed! If you have enough rivets! Welcome to the forum! And yes these alumatubes will last a life time!
__________________

shermantic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 03:43 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
TinShack's Avatar

 
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise , California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,444
Images: 28
You could argue that since you "do not need the thing to last us a lifetime", when it comes to resale the Airstream will hold it's value better and offer a wider buyer's market.
__________________
Steve
"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
TinShack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 04:09 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
Road Ruler's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines , South Western Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,367
Images: 38
Our family's first TT was a brand new 1959 16' Shasta. My dad always commented how nice it towed. They were very light weight too. Less than a ton I believe.

Anyway we have an Airstream now, not a Shasta and we tow it with a smallish, fuel efficient vehicle that is ideal for the times.

Good luck with your venture.
__________________
Airstreams..... The best towing trailers on the planet!
Road Ruler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 04:22 PM   #5
4 Rivet Member
 
bullydogsmom's Avatar
 
1972 25' Tradewind
old mystic , Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 320
I too, want on old shasta, THEN my husband had me take a really, really good look at them. Tell her they have no "real" bathroom, If they have a potty inside, you have to take it out, the potty, and dump it. Tell her that will be her job! no shower either. So my husband got his airstream with a "real" bathroom in it!

Annette
bullydogsmom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 04:23 PM   #6
Moderator
 
Stefrobrts's Avatar

 
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,083
Images: 50
Blog Entries: 1
My only comment is that you'll have more elbow room in the Airstream. I've been in both and the Shastas are a bit cramped. Very cute though. I think you really can't go wrong with either. You'll spend a whole lot more money on a Bambi than any Shasta!
__________________
Stephanie




Stefrobrts is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 04:28 PM   #7
Moderator
 
moosetags's Avatar

 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,072
Images: 5
Welcome from the Florida Panhandle

Welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

Airstream vs. Shasta, that's an interesting question.

You say that your were considering an older Bambi or an older Shasta. If it is vintage that you are considering, an Airstream would be easier to find, there are not a lot of vintage Shasta out. You Shasta selection would be somewhat limited. I would also think that parts availability would be better with an Airstream.

Also with an Airstream, you would have a bigger community to help with the information needed to maintain a vintage travel trailer. I don't believe that there is anything like these Forums in the Shasta world.

Brian
__________________
SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with HAHA
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
moosetags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 04:34 PM   #8
Rivet Master
 
Road Ruler's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines , South Western Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,367
Images: 38
If you want to spend more money there is a new Shasta available. We checked them out at the Toronto RV show. Not Bad.

Coachmen RV - Travel Trailers - Shasta

__________________
Airstreams..... The best towing trailers on the planet!
Road Ruler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 04:39 PM   #9
1953 Flying Cloud
 
1953 Flying's Avatar
 
1953 21' Flying Cloud
West Sacramento , California
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,033
Images: 8
I think Shasta's are a very cool trailer. So on that note, It's some times better to ask forgiveness than for permission. At least thats what I told my better half when I brought mine home. Good luck with your search
__________________
Custom driver license Pet ID's.

www.petidforme.com/105
1953 Flying is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 04:54 PM   #10
Rivet Master
 
InsideOut's Avatar

 
1956 22' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen , Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,098
Images: 108
Vintage Shastas are pretty cool! Gotta love those wings!!!

However I prefer Airstreams for several reasons:
  • More variety in size, layout & options
  • More windows - brighter inside
  • "Real" bathroom with some privacy
  • Toilet vs Porta-Potty
  • Has a shower
  • More storage
  • Shasta's wood interior (while very pretty) is easily damaged if it leaks
  • Smooth shiny aluminum rather than painted ribbed
  • Easier to find replacement parts
  • Better re-sale
  • Lots of camaraderie for restoration help
  • "Airstream" legacy
  • AirForums
If you are okay with these then you're looking at a Shasta because it's most likely going to be cheaper than a vintage Bambi.

Shari
__________________
Vintage Airstream Club - Past President 2007/2008
WBCCI #1824 - DenCO Unit Past President (2005)
AIR #30 - Join Date: 2-25-2002

RMVAC | WBCCI DenCO Unit | BIRDY - our 1956 Safari | 1964 Serro Scotty
InsideOut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 05:11 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
mandolindave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,189
Images: 4
Respectfully..............

I would have to say that my normally helpful and wise Airstream forum brothers and sisters have given you questionable advice.
You absolutely need both an Airstream and a Shasta. It's a no brainer. It's a must have.
You may want one trailer to be original, and one to remodel the way you want for the way you use it. You may want a back up while the other is having work done. You may want one for wild friends to spend the night in. Am I making any sense here? Yes I have an Airstream...No I don't have a Shasta....but I'm looking. I want a trailer that is easy to work on that I won't be afraid of screwing up. Ooops I forgot, I spent all my cash on my Airstream.
mandolindave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 05:56 PM   #12
2 Rivet Member
 
1971 21' Globetrotter
1963 19' Globetrotter
Punxsutawney , Pennsylvania
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 25
Airstream vs. Shasta (or Scotty)

Simple! Get 'em both!

Seriously, though ...I own Airstreams and a vintage Scotty. Both trailers are "cool" old trailers that attract attention. Shasta, Scotty and Airstream all share that retro cool look. They all will provide hours of fun and enjoyment. I've enjoyed campouts with Airstreamers and Scotty people and had a great time with both groups. As far as the trailer goes, the Airstream is miles and miles ahead of the Scotty in terms of construction and quality, A Scotty, or a Shasta was a cheap light weight trailer. They were constructed fairly well, but the wooden construction and leaking aluminum skin inevitably causes significant rot. An Airstream is an expensive high quality light weight trailer and if well cared for will hold up far better than other vintage trailers. When we were originally looking for a used trailer in 1988, we looked at used Scotty, Shasta, and other brands. Every one of them smelled of rotten wood. The first trailer I looked at that didn't have any obvious water stains and rotten wood was a 17 year old Airstream Globe Trotter. It was the oldest trailer we looked at but was in the best condition of all. I bought the Airstream and it has held up very well through 21 years and 5 children. It cost me twice as much as any other trailer I was looking at. It was one of the best buys I ever made. After all these years, I could sell it for twice as much as I paid for it.

A few years ago a bought a 1963 Airstream to restore and use as a "camp" on my property. It's been to several Airstream rallies too. It suffered from years of neglect with windows and doors open to the rain. It has some rot, but it's still useable. I did not do a floor replacement or a major disassembly. The trailer is so well built that it works OK even though it is somewhat compromised by some rotten floor (which I fixed in a half -baked manner).

Last year I bought a 1969 Scotty Sportsman 13 foot Gaucho....just for the fun of having a trailer smaller than Airstream ever made. I've had fun restoring it, and it was fun camping in it. It's no match for my Airstream, though. I like the bathroom in my Airstream and I like the way the Airstream tows. In reality, I don't get significantly better gas mile towing the 1000 pound Scotty than I do towing a 3200 pound Airstream ....or a 4000 pound Airstream. I can tow a Scotty with a 4 cylinder car, however, and I can't do that with an Airstream. I expect my Airstream will be around long after I am dead. I'm not sure the Scotty will make it as long as I do! My Dad's Shasta needed roofing tar every year it seemed. My Airstream doesn't leak anywhere where I can see it.

Hope this helps!

MARC
mweimer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 07:46 PM   #13
Rivet Master
 
TinShack's Avatar

 
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise , California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,444
Images: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Ruler View Post
If you want to spend more money there is a new Shasta available. We checked them out at the Toronto RV show. Not Bad.

Coachmen RV - Travel Trailers - Shasta


Those new Shastas ARE kind of nice. The only problem is they are all electric which means no hot water, stove or refrigeration unless plugged in. A big mistake IMHO. Especially bad if you boondock at all.
__________________
Steve
"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
TinShack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 07:58 PM   #14
Rivet Master
 
Foiled Again's Avatar
 
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach , Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,216
Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Streamer View Post
Those new Shastas ARE kind of nice. The only problem is they are all electric which means no hot water, stove or refrigeration unless plugged in. A big mistake IMHO. Especially bad if you boondock at all.
Yeah - and the construction is pure crap! Look under the burners (no oven).

Paula
__________________
Today is a gift, that's why they call it the present.
Foiled Again is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 08:42 PM   #15
Rivet Master
 
AirsDream's Avatar
 
1999 23' Safari
Perrysburg , Ann Arbor
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 915
Here's what I'd do: first, take wife to an Airstream rally. There are dozens of these every year. Have her look at the incredible range of interiors, modifications, ages, etc. EVERYONE will want you to tour their rigs, offer you a drink, expound on the virtues, etc. (let them be the salespeople!). If you want to be totally overwhelmed, go visit the annual WBCCI national rally this summer in Wisconsin, where there'll be hundreds of Airstreams.

Next, take your wife to a Shasta rally. There are actually a few. Snoop around there too.

By the time you're done, your mind will have made itself up, as will hers. (Hope you both come out the same way!) Good luck!
AirsDream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2009, 10:19 PM   #16
2 Rivet Member
 
pauly g's Avatar
 
1960 22' Safari
Oceanside , California
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 62
My wife and I wanted a vintage Shasta at one time. We love those wings! Once we looked at a few trailers, we could see that the quality difference was astounding. The Airstream is the better trailer, but is priced accordingly.
pauly g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2009, 05:35 AM   #17
Just an old timer...
 
85MH325's Avatar

 
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton , Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,430
Images: 37
This is a choice that really boils down to two things; first, what do you really want to do with the trailer, and second, what style are you after. Believe it or not, there are folks in this world who are just put off by Airstreams. They don't like the look, the aluminum, or the shape... you won't find those folks here, but I've met a number of them over the years. Hopefully, your wife isn't one of them!

I don't have to be an Airstream salesman, there are plenty of others in the thread who can do that... but if you're wife's one of those folks, buying an Airstream will be a miserable experience for both of you. And fortunately, for those folks who want quality, but not Airstream, there are other options today.

Roger
__________________
AIR 2053 Current: 2004 Airstream Interstate "B-Van" T1N Sprinter & 2006 Born Free 32 RQ Kodiak Chassis
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
85MH325 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2009, 07:01 AM   #18
Rivet Master
 
mutcth's Avatar
 
2007 23' Safari SE
Central , Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,652
Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Streamer View Post
Those new Shastas ARE kind of nice. The only problem is they are all electric which means no hot water, stove or refrigeration unless plugged in.
They are introducing a larger model with propane; not sure if the shorter model will also get a propane system. The Shasta dealer I talked to just shook his head when talking about the lack of propane; it seems to have made the trailers hard to sell.

The lousy interior finish - even compared to the so-so "standard of excellence" that exists in the RV world - is also a turn-off.

But I'm not convinced it's harder to find an old Shasta than an old Bambi. Plus, Shastas sell for a lot less money. There always seem to be a few for sale on the Tin Can Tourists website.

Tom
mutcth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2009, 10:09 AM   #19
Vintage Kin
 
Fort Worth , Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
Images: 1
Or you could go with a trailer built better than either one of them; here's a nice example currently for sale in California:

1970 Silver Streak trailer

There are other small tandem-axle Silver Streaks, Streamlines and Avions out there, too. None, though, as nice as this one.
slowmover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2009, 01:22 PM   #20
Rivet Master
 
ts8501's Avatar
 
1990 34' Excella
1964 22' Safari
Savage , Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 582
Images: 7
My parents '59 Shasta is what got me into Airstream's later in life. This shot is from our trip out west in '64. This is from the Badlands.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	badlands.jpg
Views:	204
Size:	857.9 KB
ID:	76470  
__________________

__________________
"I've got aluminum fever, and the only prescription, is more AIRSTREAM!!!"

'64 Safari Resoration Blog ("May"):
https://ts8501.blogspot.com/

TAC MN-6
WBCCI/VAC 11736
AIR 25979
ts8501 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Shasta is Back... sort of Foiled Again Off Topic Forum 22 06-14-2009 09:06 AM
Ultimate Airsteam Phonograph rideair Off Topic Forum 0 12-11-2007 10:47 AM
Ultimate pull behind Tin Hut On The Road... 10 01-11-2006 07:15 AM
Ultimate Airstream mandolindave Our Community 13 02-16-2004 06:19 PM
The ultimate disaster - Airstream rollover ipso_facto On The Road... 44 05-07-2003 12:01 AM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.