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07-17-2014, 02:07 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 24' Tradewind
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 252
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Marooned
It all started on Monday when we unhitched and drove from our boondock at the top of a mountain (down a gravel Forest Service Road) to the visitor center at Glacier National Park. Once at the visitor center, we heard a hissing coming from our back passenger side tire. A huge screw had imbedded itself and our tire was quickly letting the air out. My husband plugged the tire, so the air was leaking more slowly, and we limped to the nearest town. The tire was unrepairable and required that we buy four new tires (the joys of AWD). With the spare tire on, we limped back to camp as there were no tires our size to be had in the town or surrounding area. With our tires a week away, unable to leave our campsite and with limited water and food, I keep hearing about wildfires not too far away in Idaho and Washington and looking around at the kindling pile we are sitting on. My question is this: if there is a fire on or near our mountain, would it be crazy to attempt to tow our Airstream out on the doughnut? I mean, this would be last-ditch attempt to save our home. Has anybody ever tried it and what was the outcome?
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07-17-2014, 02:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Pendleton
Currently Looking...
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 840
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Hi from AZ. . . .Put the Doughnut on the front, like today, & do what you have to do if it comes to it ! ! good luck & be careful out there, Craig
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07-17-2014, 02:47 PM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,936
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You might try going back to town and renting a PU truck or even going back to the tire place and offering to pay one of the employees there to tow your trailer out - I bet you could find a taker.
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07-17-2014, 02:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Another vote for donut on front and limp out...only if absolutely necessary.
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07-17-2014, 03:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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If I understand your post correctly, you have an AWD vehicle and it did not come with a full size spare. As soon as possible you need to purchase a new wheel, steel will do, and a full size spare tire of the same size as the other four.
As far as I am concerned any vehicle used to tow a trailer should have a full size spare compatible in size to the other four tires.
Don't know why you need to purchase four tires, unless the existing tires are worn down to near replacement.
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by aluminitus
It all started on Monday when we unhitched and drove from our boondock at the top of a mountain (down a gravel Forest Service Road) to the visitor center at Glacier National Park. Once at the visitor center, we heard a hissing coming from our back passenger side tire. A huge screw had imbedded itself and our tire was quickly letting the air out. My husband plugged the tire, so the air was leaking more slowly, and we limped to the nearest town. The tire was unrepairable and required that we buy four new tires (the joys of AWD). With the spare tire on, we limped back to camp as there were no tires our size to be had in the town or surrounding area. With our tires a week away, unable to leave our campsite and with limited water and food, I keep hearing about wildfires not too far away in Idaho and Washington and looking around at the kindling pile we are sitting on. My question is this: if there is a fire on or near our mountain, would it be crazy to attempt to tow our Airstream out on the doughnut? I mean, this would be last-ditch attempt to save our home. Has anybody ever tried it and what was the outcome?
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07-17-2014, 03:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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The donut tire, if original equipment, should not hurt your tow vehicle at all for a short (50 mile) drive. Certainly not the best thing to tow with, but it can also do that duty.
We have a lot of fires here in the west. The chances of any you have been hearing about moving to where you are is exceptionally remote. I have smoke now where I live but the nearest fires are 50 or 60 miles away, and some smoke from over 100 miles is common.
Believe me, living virtually in the middle of the National Forest as I do causes me to be vigilant and aware of fire (rated "extreme danger" right now) but not hyper.
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07-17-2014, 03:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 24' Tradewind
Buffalo
, Wyoming
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 686
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It appears that there is little to be concerned about in the Glacier NP area right now. The Inciweb ( InciWeb the Incident Information System: Current Incidents) shows no active fires in Montana. If you're seeing smoke, it's most likely from the fires in Idaho, Oregon, and Washington. Map here: Public Information Map
Current fire danger in the Kalispel district is Moderate, with only 10% of the normal fire activity ( http://gacc.nifc.gov/nrcc/predictive...FuelStatus.pdf )
Of coarse everything could change if a dry lightning storm comes through, but it appears that the fuels are wet enough to keep anything from moving rapidly.
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07-17-2014, 04:10 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 24' Tradewind
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 252
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Thank you all for your advice and encouragement. It is hard not to be scared so far from anything and seeing heavy smoke haze all around. I didn't know it would travel so far!
wkerfoot - you are correct about needing new tires all around. They were worn past the point of being able to replace just one, and they were going to need to be replaced eventually anyway. The spare tire that came with the car was deflated and packed tightly in a compartment made just for it. I doubt a full size wheel and tire would fit but now that we are stranded, I will start looking into having a whole wheel ready to go.
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07-17-2014, 04:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 24' Tradewind
Buffalo
, Wyoming
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 686
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aluminitus
Thank you all for your advice and encouragement. It is hard not to be scared so far from anything and seeing heavy smoke haze all around. I didn't know it would travel so far!
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A couple of weeks ago we were all socked in with smoke here in northern Wyoming. When we checked the maps, it turned out it was coming from the Northwest Territories in Canada. We were surprised that it would travel that far too.
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07-17-2014, 05:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,081
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You've gotten lots of good advice here.
The moral of this story......never set out on a long trip with worn tires. Replace them before you leave home.
Things go bad when you least expect it, and in the darndest places.
Good luck,
Maggie
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07-17-2014, 05:52 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 24' Tradewind
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 252
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Thanks Thalweg! Handy map!
Actually, it is a good thing we didn't get new tires before our trip because then the screw would have ruined a new tire instead of one on the way out already. I guess they weren't all that terrible to begin with, though. We had them checked out twice, once before we left and then halfway here and both times the tire guys said they didn't need to be replaced yet.
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07-17-2014, 05:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Well, then, you did all you could do.
Maggie
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07-17-2014, 06:01 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aluminitus
It all started on Monday when we unhitched and drove from our boondock at the top of a mountain (down a gravel Forest Service Road) to the visitor center at Glacier National Park. Once at the visitor center, we heard a hissing coming from our back passenger side tire. A huge screw had imbedded itself and our tire was quickly letting the air out. My husband plugged the tire, so the air was leaking more slowly, and we limped to the nearest town. The tire was unrepairable and required that we buy four new tires (the joys of AWD). With the spare tire on, we limped back to camp as there were no tires our size to be had in the town or surrounding area. With our tires a week away, unable to leave our campsite and with limited water and food, I keep hearing about wildfires not too far away in Idaho and Washington and looking around at the kindling pile we are sitting on. My question is this: if there is a fire on or near our mountain, would it be crazy to attempt to tow our Airstream out on the doughnut? I mean, this would be last-ditch attempt to save our home. Has anybody ever tried it and what was the outcome?
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If the tire was non repairable you could have them put an inner tube in it or they could put on a used tire for you.
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07-17-2014, 06:10 PM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Sorry to hear the situation. Also not sure what your TV is but have you checked the TV owners manual for its recommendations on running with the spare tire? I've never looked at this question as my TV has a full size, but wonder what the load rating of the spare is vs. full size.
Good luck and be safe.
Gary
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10-22-2014, 08:35 PM
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1972 Travelux Princess 25
Cobourg
, Ontario
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,059
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Your tire dealer can sell you a 5th tire and a new spare wheel. If you are a good negotiator you might get them to throw in the wheel free, they are not that expensive, about $50 bucks.
They can also supply an accessory mount for it. I don't know what model of truck you have but the spare often goes under the rear of the vehicle, but can also go inside the box, bolted to the side of the box.
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