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05-24-2015, 08:00 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1976 25' Tradewind
Kimberton
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Winterizing With Alcohol
One sailboat owner we knew added low cost vodka to his water lines after draining them. He believed it was better protection than antifreeze and left the lines cleaner for Spring start up. I wasn’t sure the alcohol evaporation wouldn’t be a factor so I continued to blow out the lines after draining.
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05-24-2015, 08:15 PM
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Rivet Master 
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Expensive Alcohol abuse. Just use RV antifreeze.
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05-24-2015, 08:21 PM
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Rivet Master 
1999 34' Excella
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Hillsboro
, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Expensive Alcohol abuse. Just use RV antifreeze.
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Ohhhhh I thought we were talking about turning the AS into a brewery!!!
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05-24-2015, 09:31 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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80-proof vodka freezes at -16°F and costs about $60 per gallon.
Typical pink RV antifreeze freezes at -50°F at a cost of $4 per gallon for the generic stuff or $65 for name brands (Prestone) at Walmart.
Everclear (190 proof) freezes at -110°F at a cost of about $75 per gallon.
at just $4 per gallon, the generic RV antifreeze is the best protection for the money. But if you live above the arctic circle and want all the protection you can get, buy Everclear.
On edit— alcohol is great for drying out rubber seals, so do not winterize pumps with it! RV antifreeze is kinder to rubber.
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05-25-2015, 05:12 AM
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Rivet Monster

1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
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I suppose if you used the Everclear you dilute it slightly and have Vodka Martinis on tap
RV anti-freeze is the most cost effective. FWIW in my part of the Deep South, blowing the lines and pouring a half cup or so RV anti-freeze down the traps is all we do.
Aaron
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05-25-2015, 05:13 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
1976 25' Tradewind
Kimberton
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 51
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I liked my sailing friend’s idea of not having to flush and re-flush out the lines in Spring by putting in alcohol but I was always wary of the contact with plastics and as Protaganist pointed out, its capacity for drying out seals. Thanks for concurring with me on this fellas.
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05-25-2015, 06:03 AM
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Rivet Master 
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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When I lived on my sailboat I accidentally spilt some rum down my sink. To keep from wasting it I had to use a straw to get it back out. Still tasted good but a little salty.
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05-25-2015, 06:17 AM
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Rivet Master 
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Mantua
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RV antifreeze is palatable. Jim
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05-25-2015, 06:40 AM
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Rivet Master 
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avionstream
RV antifreeze is palatable. Jim
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Not poisonous, but palatable? No way.
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05-25-2015, 06:48 AM
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Rivet Master 
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I wouldn't drink it either, but I don't think a little left in the lines will hurt you. I live in Florida, gave never winterized but do keep some antifreeze dandy in case it gets too cold or I have a destination where it might be needed. Have had at least six AS and have never drunk the water out of the fresh water tank, but if it had vodka in it I might be tempted. Another definition if a happy camper. Jim
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05-25-2015, 06:58 AM
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Rivet Master 
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
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But then you'd need to add a fourth tank- one for lime juice.
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05-25-2015, 07:31 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1977 25' Tradewind
Waskesiu Lake
, Saskatchewan
Join Date: Dec 2008
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I usually winterize with alcohol too. Rum & coke in my left hand while I pour RV antifreeze into the traps with my right hand...
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05-25-2015, 08:10 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2015 16' Sport
Oakville
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Aren't there 2 types of RV antifreeze ? a Ethanol based one and a Glycol based one ?
latter being somewhat more expensive but having the benefit of not being inflammable/explosive/volatile
The only one I see on "camping world" is a mix. Perhaps someone with knowledge can comment.
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05-25-2015, 08:25 AM
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Rivet Master 
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
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A gallon of the $4.00 RV antifreeze last me about two years. I only use it in the drain traps and toilet. I blow the lines until only air comes through. I've done this for so many years I forget and in all types of RVs including three Airstreams. SO FAR, have never had an issue and live in a pretty cool climate - Pittsburgh, PA. The cheap stuff works fine by me.
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2020 28' Twin Flying Cloud-(Our 5th Airstream)
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05-25-2015, 08:28 AM
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Rivet Master 
1998 30' Excella 1000
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
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I once used the alcohol based version. It contains a "bitterant" to discouraging one from drinking it. It left a taste in my water lines for over a week. I now only use the glycol version. Cost a little more, but worth it.
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05-25-2015, 10:21 AM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
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I second the simple process of blowing the lines and RV antifreeze in the traps. Has worked well for me for 9 years here in the NJ winters.
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10-23-2015, 07:16 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
1976 25' Tradewind
Kimberton
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 51
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I have resolved myself to not drink or brush my teeth with what’s in the fresh water tank. I’ve got a couple gallons of pink Peak antifreeze in the AS and I’ll go with that in the lines and traps. I’ll flush out the antifreeze in Spring and ponder on tapping into a five gallon tank of clean fresh water to be kept in the cabin. Thanks for the input everyone.
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10-23-2015, 02:57 PM
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Rivet Master 
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Amended post. I now, this year for the first time have blown the lines and added two gallons of RV anti freeze to the entire system except the hot water heater. Reason after so many years is I had a real problem clearing all the water out for some reason, gave up and did the anti freeze bit.
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2020 28' Twin Flying Cloud-(Our 5th Airstream)
2021 F350 6.7 King Ranch
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