View Poll Results: Do you store your trailer over the winter with the stabilizer jacks up or down???
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10-23-2008, 06:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' International CCD
Willoughby
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
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Here's another vote for up.
Reasons: snow weight as mentioned (we get a lot here in the snow belt of Lake Erie), possible loss of tire air as mentioined, and finally - four fewer points for critters to climb.
Additionally, we tilt the trailer slightly with the tongue jack to allow for better drainage off the roof (newer models are not as round as the older ones and there are flat spots that can hold water).
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WBCCI# 03876
AIR# 6511
2005 28' CCD, 2011 Sierra 5.3L, Equal-I-Zer
Empty Nesters - spending our money on OURSELVES for a change!
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10-23-2008, 07:10 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
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Greeeneville
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Another thought to consider... Leave the stabilizers down. It IS another small deterrant to a thief and makes the trailer more difficult to steal. The shower of sparks might be an alarm, if the thief were able to get hitched up to it.
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10-23-2008, 08:33 AM
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#23
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4 Rivet Member
1998 28' Excella
Dolores
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 324
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I have seen a variety of reasons whether or not to store with your stalbizers down or up. All good reasons. I do however see some units parked on concrete. If you do not have something between the tires and the concrete you may be having problems in the future. Concrete has a caustic material in it that is not good for tires. This was told to me by my Big O dealer. You should park the trailer on a piece of 2 x 10 lumber to prevent any reaction between concrete and materials in the tire. I park my unit on a level area with about 3 inches of gravel on top. We live in an area where we had about 42 inches of snow on the level last year. I never store with the jacks down.
Bob
FCU
WBCCI # 10105
Air # 28748
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10-23-2008, 08:42 AM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,542
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Theft really isn't a problem where I live.... Everyone knows everyone else has a couple of guns in the house... I don't even lock my doors.... I do when I go on a trip.. I only have a front door key and my wife doesn't even have one of those... We come in through the garage.. I could put a sign on my AS that said FREE TOW AWAY and I bet it would be a month or so before it disappeared.... We live on a dead end street in the middle of nowhere...
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Jason
May you have at least one sunny day, and a soft chair to sit in..
2008 5.7 L V8 Sequoia
AIR # 31243
WBCCI # 6987
FOUR CORNERS UNIT
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10-23-2008, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
, Nevada
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,703
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Northern or Southern Hemisphere?
Snow sticks onto the roof on the Northern Hemisphere and the jacks should be up. Snow sticks to the bottom of the trailer on the Southern Hemisphere so the jacks should be down.
This also applies to the toilets when you orient the trailer east or west, since the water rotates counter clockwise up North and clockwise in the South. Airstream makes models for each hemisphere with the changes to the plumbing and stabilizer jacks. The winterizing fluids for your water system are color coded so there is no confusion as to which hemisphere it is intended for use.
The equatorial Airstream has no stabilizer jacks, nor wheels. This makes them less expensive, but harder to tow when not on the beach. They come without a furnace and it has been replaced with a fish smoker. The roof and bottom have a special coating to prevent snow from sticking, which solve many problems that the North and South Hemisphere owners wish they could afford to their out of date models.
I store our trailer with stabilizer jacks up. It makes it easier for us to leave town with short notice if relatives are coming out to visit us during ski season. I am recovering from Camping Withdrawal, so some of my advice might be a bit off for some time. I did notice the AS photographs from the Northern Hemisphere with the snow on TOP. You will NEVER see an Australian AS with snow on top, since it is on the bottom. I have seen some Hawaiian AS's without wheels in New Mexico, if you are curious.
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10-23-2008, 11:02 AM
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#26
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4 Rivet Member
1998 28' Excella
Dolores
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 324
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Jason;
Having travelled up through Cedaredge quite often while I went to school at Western State (in the early 70's) I know you are in an area that is quite beautiful in the summer. I was a little disappointed when I learned that most of the apple orchards are giving way to vineyards, but that is the way of agriculture.
Hope to meet up with you sometime when we are at a FCU rally.
Bob
FCU
WBCCI # 10105
AIR # 28748
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10-23-2008, 11:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,542
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dogpound
Jason;
Having travelled up through Cedaredge quite often while I went to school at Western State (in the early 70's) I know you are in an area that is quite beautiful in the summer. I was a little disappointed when I learned that most of the apple orchards are giving way to vineyards, but that is the way of agriculture.
Hope to meet up with you sometime when we are at a FCU rally.
Bob
FCU
WBCCI # 10105
AIR # 28748
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Yeah, It kind of sucks, but Stoney Mesa Winery has some great wine... And Red Mountain Ranches just down the road from us is still selling apples... The best of both worlds..
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Jason
May you have at least one sunny day, and a soft chair to sit in..
2008 5.7 L V8 Sequoia
AIR # 31243
WBCCI # 6987
FOUR CORNERS UNIT
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10-23-2008, 01:53 PM
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#28
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
, Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,432
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Does it make sense to jack the trailer up at the axle mounts and put the trailer up on blocks - under the frame rail, at each of the four corners – when storing the trailer for a long time, like over the winter?
Sergei
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10-23-2008, 02:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Eklund
Snow sticks onto the roof on the Northern Hemisphere and the jacks should be up. Snow sticks to the bottom of the trailer on the Southern Hemisphere so the jacks should be down.
This also applies to the toilets when you orient the trailer east or west, since the water rotates counter clockwise up North and clockwise in the South. Airstream makes models for each hemisphere with the changes to the plumbing and stabilizer jacks. The winterizing fluids for your water system are color coded so there is no confusion as to which hemisphere it is intended for use.
The equatorial Airstream has no stabilizer jacks, nor wheels. This makes them less expensive, but harder to tow when not on the beach. They come without a furnace and it has been replaced with a fish smoker. The roof and bottom have a special coating to prevent snow from sticking, which solve many problems that the North and South Hemisphere owners wish they could afford to their out of date models.
I store our trailer with stabilizer jacks up. It makes it easier for us to leave town with short notice if relatives are coming out to visit us during ski season. I am recovering from Camping Withdrawal, so some of my advice might be a bit off for some time. I did notice the AS photographs from the Northern Hemisphere with the snow on TOP. You will NEVER see an Australian AS with snow on top, since it is on the bottom. I have seen some Hawaiian AS's without wheels in New Mexico, if you are curious.
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wow...really....that sure makes a lota sense...............AWWW YER KIDD'N huh.
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FreshAir #12407
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Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.
1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
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1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
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10-23-2008, 03:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,804
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Snow & stabilizers
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Originally Posted by azflycaster
We do not store ours over the winter months, we use ours. It's a desert thing.
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ME to NO stabilizers used,NO storage,NO winterization,just fun camping
We don't need no stinkin snow.
Huh.
Oh well every desert trail has it puddles.
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10-23-2008, 04:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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I store our Airstream with the rear stabilizers down, the front ones up. I figure that way, I can't be all wrong.
edit: Wow! Four rivets for such an important post!
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Steve
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10-23-2008, 04:33 PM
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#32
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
I store our Airstream with the rear stabilizers down, the front ones up. I figure that way, I can't be all wrong.
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But either way, you'd only be half right...
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10-23-2008, 04:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
But either way, you'd only be half right...
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Yep, I'll take that......better than all wrong!
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Regards,
Steve
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10-23-2008, 05:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Wickenburg
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Eklund
Snow sticks onto the roof on the Northern Hemisphere and the jacks should be up. Snow sticks to the bottom of the trailer on the Southern Hemisphere so the jacks should be down.
This also applies to the toilets when you orient the trailer east or west, since the water rotates counter clockwise up North and clockwise in the South. Airstream makes models for each hemisphere with the changes to the plumbing and stabilizer jacks. The winterizing fluids for your water system are color coded so there is no confusion as to which hemisphere it is intended for use.
The equatorial Airstream has no stabilizer jacks, nor wheels. This makes them less expensive, but harder to tow when not on the beach. They come without a furnace and it has been replaced with a fish smoker. The roof and bottom have a special coating to prevent snow from sticking, which solve many problems that the North and South Hemisphere owners wish they could afford to their out of date models.
I store our trailer with stabilizer jacks up. It makes it easier for us to leave town with short notice if relatives are coming out to visit us during ski season. I am recovering from Camping Withdrawal, so some of my advice might be a bit off for some time. I did notice the AS photographs from the Northern Hemisphere with the snow on TOP. You will NEVER see an Australian AS with snow on top, since it is on the bottom. I have seen some Hawaiian AS's without wheels in New Mexico, if you are curious.
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Ah hah- I was wondering why I've found no snow on mine, I have one of the rare early equatorial options!
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10-23-2008, 06:40 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Pittsfield
, Maine
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Down, but only a half-turn after firm ground contact - to distribute snow loads a bit. Keep an eye on the tire pressure - although, for the record, after three years on the present Goodyear Marathons - I've never lost more than a pound or so over the winter.
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2003 GMC 3500 D/A, CC, LB, 4x4 and 2000 Airstream Excella 30. WBCCI 7074
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10-23-2008, 07:31 PM
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Rivet Master
Aurora
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2002
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I leave the stabilizer jacks down with a plastic pad under, but I'll also get the tires off the cement by putting safety stands under the frame. Good for the axle and tires, but also makes it harder to steal, which might be a problem where I store it.
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Forrest
Out for coffee!
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10-23-2008, 10:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dogpound
I have seen a variety of reasons whether or not to store with your stalbizers down or up. All good reasons. I do however see some units parked on concrete. If you do not have something between the tires and the concrete you may be having problems in the future. Concrete has a caustic material in it that is not good for tires. This was told to me by my Big O dealer. You should park the trailer on a piece of 2 x 10 lumber to prevent any reaction between concrete and materials in the tire. I park my unit on a level area with about 3 inches of gravel on top. We live in an area where we had about 42 inches of snow on the level last year. I never store with the jacks down.
Bob
FCU
WBCCI # 10105
Air # 28748
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Hi, Bob. I park all of my vehicles on concrete or asphalt and have had no problems. Most of my vehicles move quite often, but my Airstream and my 1959 Galaxie sit for long periods of time. [Airstream for months and Galaxie for years] If it could cause a problem, I think wood would soak up water like sponge and rot before it drys out, so I think, maybe, plastic blocks might be better for storage than wood. Or just do what I have been doing. [concrete driveway]
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2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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10-26-2008, 09:33 AM
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#38
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riverton
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I leave My jacks down while my A/S is parked due to aim in and out of it working on it all the time.
its parked on a concrete driveway
when i go to get ready to pull it some were i do not notice any problems with leaving the jacks down (but aim a newbie). but i would think the best person to ask about this would be someone who's fulltiming it
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10-26-2008, 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by osolow
I leave My jacks down while my A/S is parked due to aim in and out of it working on it all the time.
its parked on a concrete driveway
when i go to get ready to pull it some were i do not notice any problems with leaving the jacks down (but aim a newbie). but i would think the best person to ask about this would be someone who's fulltiming it
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They did, and I did. See post #11 above.
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10-26-2008, 10:12 AM
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#40
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Altoona
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2005
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You are right
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redcobra
This is my first Winter to store my Airstream. I have the stabilizers down to help take some weight off the suspension and tires. I store it inside on concrete. After reading everyone's comments, maybe I should leave them up?
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For long term storage, taking some of the weight off the suspension and wheel bearings is the right thing to do. Just take the advice of most seasoned car collectors - they block the car up so the wheels are just off the ground. Many will also place a plastic sheet on the ground to act as a vapor barrier. Also, on older trailers it will help reduce frame sag
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