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09-20-2021, 09:47 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,742
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Hi
Just went out to the garage and looked. No shortage to report, the jugs are still sitting there Had to blow the dust off to be sure .....
We blow out the lines in the trailer. Then do the valves on the water heater. Next pump antifreeze into the lines. Finally blow antifreeze through the lines and out. Not much to deal with in the spring. Not much risk of problem over the winter. What's left in odd places is antifreeze. Takes a bit less than 2 gallons to do a 30' Classic. Whole process is done in an afternoon (which plenty of beer drinking time still available ...). The beer costs more than the anti-freeze.
Bob
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09-20-2021, 09:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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I bought this years and at least next years antifreeze last spring at about $1.50 a gallon.
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09-20-2021, 09:57 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carl2591
i was just draining the lines, drain the WH, open both low point open faucets.. did the blow thing as well some years..
most of the time water in a elbow will expand and not crack them but you can never tell.. keep the air blowing for 5 to 7 mins with help push the water out so very little remains in places like 90's..
we pour about 3 oz in drains as well.. or you can suck or blow out the p traps. either way works.
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Maybe that's the difference....I blow for at least 15-20 min.
Bob
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09-20-2021, 10:05 AM
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Rivet Master
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Evergreen
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Join Date: Aug 2020
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I blow my lines until there's no more water coming out! I haven't timed it, but it's probably closer to 15 - 20 mins.
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Past:
Airstream International Serenity 23FB
Newmar Ventana 3715
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09-20-2021, 10:19 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2019 27' Globetrotter
East Hills
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 40
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I don't doubt it. I had a hard time finding it last year so I bought mine 6 weeks ago.
Amazon sells the concentrate so shipping is low and all you need to do is fill up the gallon jug with water.
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09-20-2021, 10:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2021 20' Caravel
Plaistow
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Hear it's true, my two hardware stores couldn't get what they wanted. They claim a chemical issue with Dupont.
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09-20-2021, 11:57 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis C
I went to my local Walmart to buy a couple of jugs today, and the shelves were bare. They were completely sold out of the pink stuff.
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Huh. There must have been a run on the stuff over the weekend! I was at Evergreen Walmart on Friday and they had plenty...I saw it in a couple different aisles.
I bought a couple of jugs and winterized on Saturday...hate to see "our camping season" come to an end so soon ~
But we did save a gallon "just in case" to re-winterize if we get a chance to get out again before winter really sets in...and we've been known to dry camp @ RMNP on New Year's Eve!
Shari
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09-20-2021, 12:07 PM
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Rivet Master
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Evergreen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Huh. There must have been a run on the stuff over the weekend! I was at Evergreen Walmart on Friday and they had plenty...I saw it in a couple different aisles.
I bought a couple of jugs and winterized on Saturday...hate to see "our camping season" come to an end so soon ~
But we did save a gallon "just in case" to re-winterize if we get a chance to get out again before winter really sets in...and we've been known to dry camp @ RMNP on New Year's Eve!
Shari
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I guess there was a run on it!
I've got one more local trip coming up soon, so I'll winterize after that. My next trip after that is to the Formula 1 race down in Texas in late October. I think I'll probably have to winterize before that trip, and then re-winterize when we get back.
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Past:
Airstream International Serenity 23FB
Newmar Ventana 3715
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09-20-2021, 01:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
, Kentucky
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,251
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https://www.thespruceeats.com/will-liquor-freeze-760302
I bought 3 gallons early this year at Meijers. 1 gallon is usually enough for our 23' AS. We rarely get much below -5, used to, but not anymore.
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Rich & Yvonne
2006 Safari SE -Dora-
2004 4Runner SE 4.7L V8
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09-20-2021, 01:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
, Kentucky
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,251
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https://www.reference.com/world-view...0e9ff7933fcf3a
Captain Morgan manufactures a 100-proof spiced rum, which has an alcohol content of 50 percent. Liquor with an alcohol proof of 84 usually freezes at -30 F, while liquor with a proof of 24 freezes at 20 F. The higher the alcohol proof, the lower the freezing temperature of the liquor. This means that 100-proof rum has a lower freezing point than 80-proof varieties.
There's a number of whisky brands that are 100 proof (50% alcohol). There's even Old Grand Dad 114 proof. It's make the pipes smell good too, unless you don't like the smell of whiskey.
Cruzan makes a 151 proof rum. Bacardi did but they have discontinued it. It had a warning label not to smoke while drinking it.
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Rich & Yvonne
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2004 4Runner SE 4.7L V8
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09-20-2021, 02:27 PM
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Rivet Master
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Evergreen
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Ok, now we're talking about full scale alcohol abuse. I'd rather buy a new air compressor than pump booze into my lines.
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Past:
Airstream International Serenity 23FB
Newmar Ventana 3715
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09-20-2021, 02:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minno
The one year we only blew out our lines with an air compressor, and didn't use antifreeze too, we replaced our water pump in the spring. With winter temps occasionally in the minus 20 F range, we need the antifreeze. Different areas of the country can do less, it depends on temps. There's not a blanket solution!
Kay
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When blowing out the lines one needs to take the outlet hose off the pump and run pump to drain the water from the pump. Lots of people forget that. That's why pumps freeze up. That was the only reason I used a bit of anti-freeze.
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09-20-2021, 04:23 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 23' Flying Cloud
Waterford
, New York
Join Date: Feb 2019
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I own a marina and have been told by my suppliers that the anti freeze they have delivered is all they have and the are not expecting any more this year. 95% of propylene glycol production is off-line after the recent hurricane.
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09-20-2021, 04:40 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,742
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis C
I blow my lines until there's no more water coming out! I haven't timed it, but it's probably closer to 15 - 20 mins.
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Hi
I have timed it. You can sit there for three hours and still have a stream of humidity coming out of the faucet. That's with the biggest oil free compressor you can run on a normal outlet.
Go away for about 14 hours ( so overnight ...) and try it again. Out comes a spurt of water followed by the same moisture. Run another couple hours. Come back the next day ... same thing .... after 4 days I gave up.
The problem is that spurt of water. If it happens to settle in the wrong location "this time" you have damage.
Bob
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09-20-2021, 05:55 PM
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Rivet Master
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Evergreen
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I haven't really had that experience. Mine seems to get pretty empty. No issues yet!
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09-20-2021, 06:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,644
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Buy as much as you can before the hoarders get it!!!!!?
Seems that each trailer can be different. I blew the lines until there was zero mist then let it run for another hour or so. I was a noob and didn’t know that I should blow for five or ten minutes. Then the temp in the Austin area hit 3 degrees and below freezing for a few days straight. No leaks. Maybe the extra noise bothering the neighbor also dries out the lines.
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09-21-2021, 07:37 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
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So then, we become the hoarders!
Kay
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09-21-2021, 07:55 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Evergreen
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Join Date: Aug 2020
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Better stock up on RV toilet paper while you're at it!
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Newmar Ventana 3715
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09-21-2021, 07:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Walmart has it on sale here…
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09-21-2021, 09:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Because of this thread, I promptly ordered from my local WalMart enough for this year…and next year, just in case.
I pick it up in the morning.
Maggie
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