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05-09-2005, 01:06 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
Somewhere
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Setting up hookups at home
I'm developing the land where our new house will be built, and trying to plan ahead for Airstream parking, including courtesy parking.
I want to have room for two Airstreams to park with water, phone, and 30 amp electric connections. (The phone is because I plan to use an Airstream as my temporary office while the house is under construction.)
Since these will be transient parking spots (my Caravel will live under cover on another part of the site), I'm thinking about using the Grasspave2 system for the parking pads (see www.grasspave.com). That way my small yard won't be all asphalt.
Water hookup is pretty straightforward, but I am wondering what special considerations need to be made for the electrical and phone. Most campgrounds seem to just have an outdoor breaker box with 30- and 15-amp outlets. But I saw a box at Rock Crusher Canyon RV Park (Crystal River FL) which combined everything in one neat package, along with a nice low-intensity fluorecent light. Does anyone know where I can find those?
Otherwise, recommendations on setting up the pole and various outlets would be appreciated. I'm not experienced with AC power and would probably hire an electrician to do the work, but I'd like to know what I'm asking for, in advance.
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05-09-2005, 01:14 PM
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Rivet Master
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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What you may have seen was a marina pedestal. Thet are very expensive. Here is one brand, there are probably cheaper ones out there.
http://www.boatliftwarehouse.com/pro...r_pedestal.asp
Thanks for the Grasspave link. I had no idea that was available.
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05-09-2005, 01:19 PM
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Cartoon Character
2004 34' Classic
On The Road
, U.S.A.
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Here ya go ...
I walked outside and checked the pedestal where we are staying ... it's just as you described.
Milbank Manufacturing
Make sure my 34' will fit on the new pad, OK?
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05-09-2005, 01:20 PM
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Remember Burma Shave!
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Fort Myers
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Try this
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05-09-2005, 01:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 30' Sovereign of the Road
Plymouth
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Consider a dump site?
I am doing the same thing Rich. I have 200 Amp service in my barn, and as I level off the back site of the old goat pasture, I am putting in 30A service too. I have water already there. I was thinking about sinking a 500 gallon tank too, one of those new plastic ones. When it gets full, I'd have it pumped. Did you consider one? Thanks for that Grasspave site.
Rob
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05-09-2005, 01:40 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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Since you are running new wire, you may want to consider a 50 amp service. You never know what the future may bring.
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05-09-2005, 01:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
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Plumbing 101
Course - Plumbing 101
Day - One
Rule #1
Sh*t flows DOWNHILL
You have to PUMP IT uphill.
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05-09-2005, 01:59 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
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Wow! Thanks for all the replies.
Rob and joatmon, I wanted to put in sewer hookups too. It would be easy -- the septic tank is about 15 feet away. But my town zoning prohibits the dumping of "camper" waste on-site, even with a septic system. It's a regulation designed to keep people from living in their RVs, I guess.
I'll have to check out the links and do some shopping. Haven't considered 50-amp but hey, why not? And maybe even cable TV, although I don't want to encourage people to stay TOO long!
I should warn you all that Grasspave will not be cheap. But I figure for a relatively small area it should be reasonably affordable. I'll be checking with our local supplier in the next few weeks. The plan is to have the two parking spots built in June.
Porky, I think we can squeeze your 34 footer in there! Let me know when you get to the northeast.
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05-09-2005, 02:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 30' Sovereign of the Road
Plymouth
, New York
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Can fit a 34'er
Cool, we'll bring up the 34 footer too! If I can afford the gas! I see in their video its about the same up front cost as pavement...I will look into this for the RV site, but will probably stick with plain jane gravel for my 350' driveway. Really cool product though!
Rob
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05-09-2005, 02:21 PM
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Patriotic
1973 23' Safari
North of Boston
, Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rluhr
Rob and joatmon, I wanted to put in sewer hookups too. It would be easy -- the septic tank is about 15 feet away. But my town zoning prohibits the dumping of "camper" waste on-site, even with a septic system. It's a regulation designed to keep people from living in their RVs, I guess.
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Zoning? they have "zoning" in VT??
I would consider an accessible "cleanout" ...for maintenance purposes, of course. and the sewer solution. and its not "waste dumping". its water reclamation.
If I may so boldly hi-jack this thread w/ more questions, as I am considering a similar project, myself.....
I'm thinking of paving my driveway (currently gravel, and in rough shape) this spring, and I'd like to also put in a hookup next to my camper's summer parking space. no rush, but I figure I oughtta run the wires/pipes before they pave anything. the spot is about 60 feet from the house foundation. Wondering what to run for a water line. it should be "winterize-able". I'm thinking I could probably use the same stuff they use for lawn irrigation systems, including an access box at the base of a 4x4 post. run a wire and a pipe into that box...conduit up the post to a weather proof electrical box. (they have a couple listed in the CW catalog).
not sure about what kind of pipe to use for this, though. and the joints and so-forth, considering the need for a blow-out plug, or something to drain it for the winter.
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05-09-2005, 02:24 PM
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Rivet Master
Corpus Christi
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As a temporary fix, you might try the product called "SEWER SOLUTIONS". It's about $110 but it can pump uphill about 36" vertically. You could use it to dump into the sewer cleanout. By doing this as needed then storing when not in use, you could get by.
On Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WD1V
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05-09-2005, 02:54 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
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I just talked to my local distributor. The GrassPave2 stuff is basically $2.67/sf. For two spaces, I will use one roll measuring 8.25 x65.6 ft, and then cut it down and snap together to form two 10x27 pads. The cost will be $1436 plus tax and sand delivery.
I think it is worth it for the aesthetic improvement on this particular lot. Otherwise I'd end up with asphalt for a front lawn, which would not be great IMHO. (But if I had a farm with lots of space like Rob's I probably would just pave a strip somewhere, or put down gravel.)
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05-09-2005, 03:25 PM
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1972 31' Sovereign
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FYI, a poured concrete slab runs around $3.00 per square foot, in both Florida and Ohio. Stamped concrete, which is really nice runs around $7.00 per s.f.
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05-09-2005, 03:44 PM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joatmon
Since you are running new wire, you may want to consider a 50 amp service. You never know what the future may bring.
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That's a good idea. If you put in 50a, then you can also split it into the two 30a circuits for the future guest spots.
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05-09-2005, 06:27 PM
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7751
1975 25' Tradewind
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Make your own...
Quote:
Originally Posted by rluhr
Most campgrounds seem to just have an outdoor breaker box with 30- and 15-amp outlets. But I saw a box at Rock Crusher Canyon RV Park (Crystal River FL) which combined everything in one neat package, along with a nice low-intensity fluorecent light. Does anyone know where I can find those?
Otherwise, recommendations on setting up the pole and various outlets would be appreciated. I'm not experienced with AC power and would probably hire an electrician to do the work, but I'd like to know what I'm asking for, in advance.
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You could make your own post and simply have your electrician install a nice light and this connection box on it for you... You could even add cable, data, and telephone connections and call it "5-star hookups"
-T
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05-09-2005, 06:36 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
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Holy cow! $446 list price? Seems to be very expensive to provide free parking for Rob and Porky!
The others mentioned didn't quote prices on their website or product info sheets, so for all I know they are even more. I guess I wasn't prepared for the sticker shock.
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05-09-2005, 06:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1967 30' Sovereign
Leavenworth
, Kansas
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Zoning
Rich - Know what you are going through with zoning. It's a nightmare here too. We also had thought about putting in an extra septic system or "water reclamation" system, near the barn where we keep Moby. That way we would be able to clean him up after each use and trailer guests could hook up. We already have the electric hooked up. Our delightful county will not allow another septic system installed on our property (we already have one for the house). I think they are afraid that we might be starting a business; after all, 42 acres can house quite a few Airstreams.
Good luck on your house building....bet you have many zoning restrictions for that too.
P.S. Remember our yard is available for overnights to and from International.
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05-09-2005, 06:58 PM
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7751
1975 25' Tradewind
Huntington Beach
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expensive...
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Originally Posted by rluhr
Holy cow! $446 list price? Seems to be very expensive to provide free parking for Rob and Porky!
The others mentioned didn't quote prices on their website or product info sheets, so for all I know they are even more. I guess I wasn't prepared for the sticker shock.
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Yeah, I thought it was pricy too. I wonder how they justify it. It must do more than I am thinking... Sheet metel and Breakers weren't that expensive last time I checked.
Any electricians have any insight on that?
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05-09-2005, 07:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 25' Safari
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you might want to also consider putting the lines in a plastic ( 4") sewer pipe, along with a small rope, in case you would ever need to replace or add lines, etc. I don't have a fondness for shovels or digging.
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05-09-2005, 07:13 PM
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New Math?
Quote:
Originally Posted by markdoane
If you put in 50a, then you can also split it into the two 30a circuits for the future guest spots.
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Wouldn't two 30A circuits be 60 amps?
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