Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-24-2021, 08:19 PM   #1
3 Rivet Member
 
BessieB's Avatar

 
1997 21' Excella
Carson City , Nevada
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 188
Images: 8
Quick freeze coming up

We have a 22 degree and 28 degree nights coming up. I am not ready to call the season quits cause we have a few more outings. What say you? Should I turn on the furnace? Or have a space heater going? Or nothing.
TIA
__________________
So much yarn.....
Too little time.....
BessieB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2021, 08:57 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
CBWELL's Avatar
 
1994 34' Excella
Warren , Manitoba
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 963
If you have shore power, use an electic heater. If boondocking the furnace works good as long as you have battery power. Make sure that any exposed water line is drained. Your holding tanks and HWT will not be bothered with a shot frost, but any exposed water line will. If you run the furnace, you should have a CO monitor!
__________________
ACI #7394
2012 GMC 2500 HD Duramax Denali
1994 Excella 34' 1987 Limited 34'
1976 31', 1976 Argosy 22' Gone to new homes
Hensley Hitch
CBWELL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2021, 09:13 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
mefly2's Avatar
 
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town , *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,717
We drain and dry camp until
Thanksgiving ...
__________________
2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int. / 2020 Ford Expedition 3.5 eco B
2019 Chev New Silverado 1500 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch
AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
mefly2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2021, 10:20 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
2007 27' Safari FB SE
NW Oregon in a nice spot , Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 638
Huh??? 22 to 28 at night and thinking about doing nothing?....from a 3 rivet poster. This must be a troll post for sure?
bweybright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2021, 10:41 PM   #5
2 Rivet Member
 
airstreambob's Avatar

 
1993 30' Excella
1992 21' Sovereign
2000 30' Excella
2001 31' Land Yacht
Valley Park , Missouri
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 35
Images: 9
quick freeze

Better safe than sorry. A little RV antifreeze down each drain. Run a 1500w space heater (pointed in a safe direction). Enjoy!
airstreambob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2021, 10:50 PM   #6
3 Rivet Member
 
BessieB's Avatar

 
1997 21' Excella
Carson City , Nevada
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 188
Images: 8
troll? Did someone say troll?

__________________
So much yarn.....
Too little time.....
BessieB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 09:29 AM   #7
Half a Rivet Short
 
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle , Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 12,585
Hi

Simple answer this time of year:

Pop open the faucets and low point drains as you pull out of the campsite. Don't have a lot of water in the tank or this gets messy. Do the usual black and gray tank dumps.

When the "weather alarm" goes off, head over and put a bit of RV antifreeze in each of the drains, stand on the toilet flush for a bit.

No it's not perfect, but it's a lot better than nothing. The cost of the antifreeze is pretty small. When you go back out camping, there's not a lot to undo other than closing this or that valve / faucet.

A somewhat more involved approach would be to run a compressor and blow out the lines. You also can blow out the hot water heater at the same time. You have better protection, but still not a lot to reverse when you head out again.

This all assumes the trailer is stored someplace sheltered. If it's out in a good strong wind and it will be below 32 for >12 hours with 21 as the low .... you need the full up process and / or heaters.

Bob
uncle_bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 09:41 AM   #8
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2007 Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 16,943
I have camped numerous times with temps in the teens, and never frozen up.

Run your furnace, open cabinets to insure pipes receive heat.

And go on.

You could winterize out of an abundance of caution, but it’s then an abundance of dewinterizing when you’re not ready to pack it up for the season.

Maggie
__________________
Find a need and fill it.

🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
Lily&Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 10:17 AM   #9
4 Rivet Member
 
fran&frank's Avatar
 
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Hartsburg , Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 423
The thing is there are many different configurations of airstreams and depending where valves, pipes, and heat ducts are your experiences may differ from others. On our 27 FC FB the black and gray tank valves are enclosed with the tanks. We routinely camp with overnight lows in the upper teens using our freshwater tank and black and gray water tanks like normal and use the propane furnace to keep things warm enough to not freeze. We often set the thermostat as low as 50 to conserve propane and battery power when boondocking. I do drain water from the outside shower by opening the valve, then the low water drains, and after I hear the water drain from the outside shower fixture, I close the valves again so there will be air in outside shower fixture and pipes to it even if we use the rest of our water system. --Frank
__________________
Frank & Fran
2016 27' FC FB with 600 W solar
2016 Ford F150 EcoBoost
Equalizer Hitch
fran&frank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 10:22 AM   #10
Rivet Master
 
InsideOut's Avatar

 
1956 22' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen , Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,546
Images: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by bweybright View Post
This must be a troll post for sure?
Really? Could be they just moved from a 4-season area to a new colder location that requires winterizing...don't be so harsh. This question comes up many times every season...I see it as one of the true signs of fall!

Shari
__________________
Vintage Airstream Club - Past President 2007/2008
WBCCI #1824 - DenCO Unit Past President (2005)
AIR #30 - Join Date: 2-25-2002

RMVAC | ACI - CO Unit (Formerly WBCCI) | BIRDY - our 1956 Safari | 1964 Serro Scotty
InsideOut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 10:34 AM   #11
3 Rivet Member
 
2016 27' Flying Cloud
McDonough , Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 108
We just camped for several days with overnight lows in the 20's, daytime highs 40's to 60's - no problems - kept the furnace on 58F (comfortable for us under lots of covers), kept the hot water heater on, left kitchen sink cab door and water pump access door open. We also made sure no exterior water hose hooked up - just used fresh water tank.

In our 27FB, the furnace routes a bit of heat to the holding tanks. A space heater wouldn't work, since it wouldn't get any heat to the tanks.
Kittycatcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 04:42 PM   #12
Rivet Master
 
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville , New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,678
"IF" it only gets down to 28 for a couple hours there is little risk of damage. A couple years ago someone posted of freeze damage after his trailer was in storage and they predicted a low of 34, then actual low of 22.
Wazbro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 09:52 PM   #13
Site Team
 
wulfraat's Avatar

 
2017 30' International
Broomfield , Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,297
Images: 1
Turn on the furnace run at 50 degrees temp - you’ll be fine.
wulfraat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2021, 11:07 PM   #14
3 Rivet Member
 
BessieB's Avatar

 
1997 21' Excella
Carson City , Nevada
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 188
Images: 8
Thank you all

Thanx all. I am not a troll. Just have not really experienced a freeze while still having season left. My husband the first winter we owned the trailer did not winterize. Guess what? So with your input, you confirmed my thinking. Except the addition of the water heater thoughts.
I am not a troll............
__________________
So much yarn.....
Too little time.....
BessieB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2021, 05:02 AM   #15
Site Team
 
GCinSC2's Avatar

 
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere , South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,093
BessieB,

Good luck with the freeze potential. Unprepared the damage can be annoying to ugly. Last winters freeze in Texas really messed up a bunch of RV'ers.

Gary
__________________
S/OS #001
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L 6 Speed
16" Michelins, Hi Spec Wheels, Max Brake, Dexter 4 Piston Disc Brakes, Carslile Actuator, Equal-I-Zer, Dill TPMS. Campfire cook. BMV-712
GCinSC2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2021, 09:43 AM   #16
Rivet Master
 
2007 27' Safari FB SE
NW Oregon in a nice spot , Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 638
Quote:
Originally Posted by BessieB View Post
Thanx all. I am not a troll. Just have not really experienced a freeze while still having season left. My husband the first winter we owned the trailer did not winterize. Guess what? So with your input, you confirmed my thinking. Except the addition of the water heater thoughts.
I am not a troll............
Fair enough, thank you for checking back. I owe you my apologies for jumping the gun.
Good luck with your temperatures!!
bweybright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2021, 09:29 AM   #17
Half a Rivet Short
 
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle , Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 12,585
Quote:
Originally Posted by BessieB View Post
Thanx all. I am not a troll. Just have not really experienced a freeze while still having season left. My husband the first winter we owned the trailer did not winterize. Guess what? So with your input, you confirmed my thinking. Except the addition of the water heater thoughts.
I am not a troll............
Hi

Folks have reported significant damage to trailers stored at the FL / GA line with a single night and temperatures reported at 29 degrees. Others seem to do fine. It is very much a function of how lucky you get .....

Since you could be talking thousands of dollars in repairs, is saving $2 on a jug of antifreeze (and the hour or two to deploy it) that big a deal? It's up to you.

If you really want to freak out, there are YouTube videos from Texas showing trailers with frame damage due to water tanks freezing. Not on an Airstream, but the trailer was totaled..... yikes ....

Bob
uncle_bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2021, 09:45 AM   #18
4 Rivet Member
 
2012 28' International
Prince Edward County , Ontario
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 299
It depends on when you will use the trailer again. If it's short term then we will turn the furnace on and set the thermostat to 10C (50F) and all has been fine. Open drawers and cabinets to allow circulation. If the temperature is dropping to the lower range, I heat up the hot water tank and then turn off but it helps that our trailer is stored close by or in front of the house. When not in use, the holding tanks are emptied routinely so no problem there but we would keep the fresh water tank at least half full.

If stored for longer, I would winterize so you don't have to worry. You can go through a lot of propane if the temperature remains below freezing. When in Montreal one November, we got caught in a freeze with similar temperatures and we went through a 30 lb. tank of propane in five days.
Cyclist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2021, 09:53 AM   #19
4 Rivet Member
 
2019 22' Sport
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 258
Hello,
I just finished camping in 16 degree weather with water in camper. 2019 Bambi 22 sport Fb. I set heat to 50 and had no problems. So I would turn on the heat and not worry.
Sean
Kanusport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2021, 02:56 PM   #20
2 Rivet Member
 
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Longmont , Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 53
What "wulfraat" said, but I will add to it. We do this often and turn our furnace down to 45 when we are not ready to winterize and temps are dipping below freezing. Pick your safe number, but it is important to run the furnace, not the heat pump or a space heater. Reason is there is ducting from the furnace to the underbelly area to help keep things from freezing. This is why it is OK to camp in your airstream in sub-freezing temperatures and not end up with frozen pipes. We have camped many times down into the teens with no issues.

p.s. - We never just "do nothing" when temps are dropping below or even approaching freezing. Too risky and way too often the forecast is not that accurate so better safe than sorry.
OrangeCrush is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New to me trailer coming tomorrow - few quick questions groovzilla 1965 - 1969 Overlander 9 02-01-2014 07:26 PM
Water Dripping From Fan During Freeze/Thaw/Freeze/Thaw Fly at Night Roof Vents, Skylights & Fans 5 12-16-2011 10:54 AM
The welder is coming, the welder is coming... Safari Tim General Interior Topics 13 09-01-2006 10:00 AM
The Airstreams are Coming!! The Airstreams are Coming!! j54mark Airstream "In the News" 7 07-07-2005 07:06 AM
No Anti-freeze smily Plumbing - Systems & Fixtures 8 04-15-2003 11:11 AM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.