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03-01-2014, 03:56 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1969 23' Safari
Athens
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Parking pad size
Any mathematicians/engineers who can help me calculate the size of a parking pad for my AS.
Our house is on a deeply sloped lot with a long curving driveway. There is minimal paved parking in front of the house for maybe 3 cars. There is also an AS inaccessible garage, further down the slope, to the back of the house.
There is some room to grade to the side of the current parking pad. Our original thought was to back the trailer down the very curved drive(maybe 40ft, or so,) and back it into a small paved pad. I am now thinking of extending our original parking pad so that we can pull down, turn it around, pull it up and back it onto the smaller AS pad. I have no idea what kind of radius that we will need in order to pull it down, back it into new concrete, pull it up and back onto the originally planned AS pad. I plan to use a portable garage to cover it.
I have a single axle 23 ft. Trailer that I have very limited backing experience, especially with this long curvy drive. It jackknifes easily. I don't want to store it off site, because I plan on using it as a she-cave, guest room, hang out spot. ALL help is appreciated!
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03-01-2014, 04:51 PM
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Retired.
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Can you provide us a sketch of your driveway and which way the grade slopes? Also, any trees in the way.
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03-02-2014, 05:03 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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It's not for exactly your size of trailer, but here's a drawing taken from "Park Road Standards, the document the National Park Service uses to lay out roads in national parks. It might help…
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03-02-2014, 06:51 AM
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Rivet Master 

2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
It's not for exactly your size of trailer, but here's a drawing taken from "Park Road Standards, the document the National Park Service uses to lay out roads in national parks. It might help
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I'm not seeing a link or a drawing. I'm on the old version on my iPhone if that makes a difference.
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03-02-2014, 09:30 AM
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1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
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We have a similar challenge. Our 100+ foot driveway at 6 and 8 degree slope can test my maneuvering skills. But been doing it for 8 years so it has become a 'natural'. I drive our rig down the drive and pull into to where we park our 24' trailer. I then back (carefully) into a turnaround spur......just deep enough to back into to complete a 3 point turn. I ten pull the trailer up the drive enough to back down to the summer time trailer park spot. Winter storage is up the drive on an RV pad. I still have to make the turnaround at the bottom of our drive to park in the 'pad' up the hill.
Neil
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1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
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1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
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03-02-2014, 10:09 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1965 17' Caravel
brooklyn park
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jan 2007
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parking
Can you park it 90* to the drive? pull up to where the drive ends nearest the house, then crank the wheels and back up to where you imagine the A/S would be on a pad. the A/S would never be in the way and would be easy to hook up. the pad only has to be as deep as the distance to the wheels;the rear could stick out over an unpaved area. it would be like backing into most campsites,pull past it,then back in-no 100ft snake attack. if you angle the pad a little, it should be even easier. just my 2 cents- my caravel jack-knives real quick, so I'm always looking for easy back-up solutions. joe in Minnesnowda
(at this time,it's only colder in antartica and mars)
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03-02-2014, 11:10 AM
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Rivet Master 
1977 Argosy 24
Currently Looking...
Milltown
, Wisconsin
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Take your AS to a vacant parking lot and with chalk, traffic cones or cardboard boxes mark out a test parking pad. See if you can park in it. Keep adjusting it until it works for you. Take pictures and measurements and make a sketch, so you can duplicate it at home. You can also figure out your turning radius in the lot.
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03-02-2014, 11:13 AM
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Rivet Master 
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,636
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12x25
12' wide by 25' long.
You would really only need it from the axle to the hitch, but the grass will die under the back of it anyway, and you could make it narrower, but why track in mud. Hence, 12' wide, 25' long.
I saw a really cool radio controlled servo motor thing where you unhitch the trailer, a drive wheel rubs against your tires, you have a castering wheel on your front hitch point, and you could stand back with a radio control transmitter and park your trailer into a super tight spot very easily. A lot of trouble and expense, but a neat toy
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03-02-2014, 04:54 PM
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshAir
We have a similar challenge. Our 100+ foot driveway at 6 and 8 degree slope can test my maneuvering skills. But been doing it for 8 years so it has become a 'natural'. I drive our rig down the drive and pull into to where we park our 24' trailer. I then back (carefully) into a turnaround spur......just deep enough to back into to complete a 3 point turn. I ten pull the trailer up the drive enough to back down to the summer time trailer park spot. Winter storage is up the drive on an RV pad. I still have to make the turnaround at the bottom of our drive to park in the 'pad' up the hill.
Neil
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I reckon it is a challenge to climb that hill in a long 'n' low Duece and a Quarter- or is that a LeSabre?
Fine ride either way. The best of the 70's.
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03-03-2014, 02:16 PM
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Rivet Master 

1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
I reckon it is a challenge to climb that hill in a long 'n' low Duece and a Quarter- or is that a LeSabre?
Fine ride either way. The best of the 70's.
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Centurion 455. Our Olds 455 and Jeep pickup with a Buick 455 has absolutely no problems either. Before we finally got the gravel driveway paved the Jeep 4x4 was the only thing that could maneuver the Airstream. The trailer would drag/push the cars in the gravel.
Neil
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FreshAir #12407
Avatar;
Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.
1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
455 cid
1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
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03-03-2014, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Delta 88 or 98 Regency Brougham?
Looks like a 9-8.
I love those old cars with no "B" pillar.
Roll down front and rear windows and there is that huge opening-
Big ole long cars with a limousine size back seat-
oh- I see your signature- it is a 9-8.
Cool rides.
I would love to have a green Buick Electra 225 from that era.
They sure made a lot of pale yellow Oldsmobiles in the day-
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03-03-2014, 05:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Anna
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Now that brings back memories. 1970 model Buick Electra 225 (sorry for the quality of the images...taken in 1971 with my trusty Kodak Instamatic):
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03-03-2014, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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The image quality is excellent considering they are 41 year old prints probably before 110 film, maybe 120?
Anyway, the green Duece is awesome, as is the Shasta.
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