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Old 11-30-2020, 12:19 PM   #1
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Low point drains missing handles?

I am trying to winterize on my own this year after a couple of years having it done 'professionally'. My low point drains do not have any handles on them unless I am totally confused? I cannot believe that both would have fallen off. The dealer has winterized it and never mentioned this.

Is there some other way to open and close these drains and if not, is this some replacement part I can install?
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Old 11-30-2020, 12:26 PM   #2
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You can carefully put an adjustable wrench on the square operator. I am sure you can find some handles on line somewhere. Maybe Mcmaster Carr.
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Old 11-30-2020, 01:16 PM   #3
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Did you look in the drawers etc for the handles? Maybe in the space where the winterizing valve is?
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Yes, we have been through everything they gave us and all nooks over the last couple of years, including the water heater bypass and the pump nooks. I guess I will just contact the dealer and see if they can provide these.
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Those look like standard ball-valve shutoff valves which are available at hardware stores. Amazon has several variations (for example: https://www.amazon.com/Akozon-Valve-.../dp/B07JKW53R9). It might be simplest to buy two new valves and use the handles from them. Then again, a plumber's supply company might sell just the handles.

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Old 11-30-2020, 03:36 PM   #6
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Those look like standard ball-valve shutoff valves which are available at hardware stores. Amazon has several variations (for example: https://www.amazon.com/Akozon-Valve-.../dp/B07JKW53R9). It might be simplest to buy two new valves and use the handles from them. Then again, a plumber's supply company might sell just the handles.

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Thanks Tim - if that is a ball valve, seems like I am missing the stem too? There is nothing in that hole. Seems like the stem and ball should be integral?.
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In case you don't have the manual, here is a copy:
https://www.airstream.com/wp-content...manual-177.pdf
Looking at page 8-12 it does appear that you are missing some pieces.
Can you see into the threaded end to see if there is a ball inside?
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Old 11-30-2020, 04:37 PM   #8
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I think that you may be confused!

To me they look correct. The handles are circled on this picture. Turn them 90 degrees.
And pardon my typo!
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I think that you may be confused!

To me they look correct. The handles are circled on this picture. Turn them 90 degrees.
And pardon my typo!
I could be wrong, but I don't think those are handles. I think they are "stops" for the missing handles.
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Old 11-30-2020, 04:47 PM   #10
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Yes - I have the manual and see that photo now. I will have to go to my storage site again and crawl around to to see if I can see the ball. I am assuming something is there as I just got back from a camping outing and if there was nothing there, wouldn’t there be water draining out as I use the cold and hot water?

I am just wondering if it has been like this for three years and I just didn’t notice because I wasn’t doing the winterizing.
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Are those really the low point drain valves? My low point drain valves are accessed from inside the trailer. My trailer is a lot older than yours.
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I'd be tempted to take one off and take it to a plumber or supply house. Just be careful to keep a wrench on both halves so nothing else moves.
The ball must still be in there otherwise water would pour out.

I wonder if they were removed to avoid road damage since they're on the bottom of the pan, yes?

Most of those on Google are 3/4" thread although I didn't see any just like yours.
I don't think you'll have trouble replacing it since it is a residential water heater drain part.
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Old 11-30-2020, 04:56 PM   #13
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Thanks Tim - if that is a ball valve, seems like I am missing the stem too? There is nothing in that hole. Seems like the stem and ball should be integral?.
It appears that the "stem" or "valve pin" as labeled in this video can indeed separate from the ball. If that's the case, it would probably be best to purchase new valves and replace the whole thing.

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To me they look correct. The handles are circled on this picture. Turn them 90 degrees.
To me it's the tab to prevent the handle from turning past 90 deg.
I took the liberty of brightening the image.
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Old 11-30-2020, 05:17 PM   #15
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I am trying to winterize on my own this year after a couple of years having it done 'professionally'. My low point drains do not have any handles on them unless I am totally confused? I cannot believe that both would have fallen off. The dealer has winterized it and never mentioned this.

Is there some other way to open and close these drains and if not, is this some replacement part I can install?
Call the dealer and ask them how they did it.
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Looking at the enhanced photo there is no stem. Probably no ball. Whatever those valves do I bet they are open.
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Old 11-30-2020, 07:29 PM   #17
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The threads on the discharge ( thread ) end is very strange. It looks like the valves were removed and maybe, just maybe the previous owner used this setup to blow air into the system for winterizing. Iam probably way out there on this.
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Are you missing the "guts" of the valves?
Was your system holding water up until now and now needs draining ... prank photo ???
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Come to think of it, those don't look like low point drains to me. I had a '16 Flying Cloud 25', and now a '19 International 30', and the low point drains were/are a red and white pex pipe coming out the bottom, just sticking out there, with the handles to turn them on and off inside the trailers.
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I agree seeing the brightened image that that looks like where the handle goes.
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