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11-19-2013, 03:45 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1969 23' Safari
Athens
, Georgia
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Haven't run water in trailer yet-winterize?
I am in the final stages of renovating my AS and have never run water through her. I have an empty, fresh holding tank, water pump, toilet not in yet, bath not been used, never hooked up to outside water while working on her. Stupid question-is there anything I need to do to winterize?
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11-19-2013, 04:11 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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If there's no water in any pipe or tank, there's no winterizing to be done.
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11-19-2013, 04:13 PM
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Rivet Master 

1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
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If there's never been any water in the system, you don't need to winterize. Chris says that nothing will freeze until it gets to absolute zero, in which case we will have other problems!
Kay
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11-20-2013, 06:58 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1969 23' Safari
Athens
, Georgia
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That's what I figured, but wanted to be safe, not sorry. Thanks!
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11-20-2013, 07:39 AM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
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Close the door !!!!! That's about it.
Does it get cold in Georgia ????
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11-20-2013, 07:45 AM
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Rivet Master 
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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YOU have never had water in the trailer. The 69 Airstreams used copper pipe, copper is not as forgiving as plastic, and unless you replaced all of the piping and are sure there is no way any water could still be in there I would at least blow air through it, opening each faucet one at a time, to be sure.
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11-20-2013, 07:50 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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Some antifreeze added to the holding tanks would not be amiss, either. Even if the tanks are dry, keeping the valve seals wet with antifreeze now may prevent leaks later. Propylene glycol isn't as good for restoring rubber as is glycerine, but it's better than nothing.
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11-20-2013, 10:05 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1976 25' Caravanner
Salt Lake City
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This may be a dumb "newbie" question but how much antifreeze do you advise adding to the holding tanks. My recently purchased '76 Caravanner has empty tanks. I've blown out the water system and added antifreeze to the sink and tub traps and poured a little down the toilet to moisten the seals. Just curious as to how much more in the gray and black tank would do it. Thanks.
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11-20-2013, 10:14 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by youngpeck
This may be a dumb "newbie" question but how much antifreeze do you advise adding to the holding tanks. My recently purchased '76 Caravanner has empty tanks. I've blown out the water system and added antifreeze to the sink and tub traps and poured a little down the toilet to moisten the seals. Just curious as to how much more in the gray and black tank would do it. Thanks.
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Doesn't take much. Just enough to cover the seal. You can always add more later if it evaporates. But I can't give you an exact quantity because the gemoetry of each system is different in the particulars, even if they're generally the same.
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11-20-2013, 01:55 PM
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Rivet Master 
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by youngpeck
This may be a dumb "newbie" question but how much antifreeze do you advise adding to the holding tanks. My recently purchased '76 Caravanner has empty tanks. I've blown out the water system and added antifreeze to the sink and tub traps and poured a little down the toilet to moisten the seals. Just curious as to how much more in the gray and black tank would do it. Thanks.
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You can not drain all the water out of the gray and black tanks just because of what is on the bottom and side walls of the tanks. So evem after a good draning you can assume water will migrate to the low point, the drain valve. I put about a cup of auto antifreeze in those tanks just to be sure ice does not effect the valves
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11-20-2013, 02:45 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1976 25' Caravanner
Salt Lake City
, Utah
Join Date: Oct 2013
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I'll pour some antifreeze into those tanks tonight! Thanks much, gentlemen.
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11-20-2013, 05:08 PM
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Rivet Master 

1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
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If you're concerned about evaporation of antifreeze in the toilet, do what I do. Cover the toilet seat with plastic wrap to seal it after the antifreeze is in the toilet. It'll be good for the winter with no evaporation.
Kay
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11-21-2013, 03:38 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1969 23' Safari
Athens
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 128
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
YOU have never had water in the trailer. The 69 Airstreams used copper pipe, copper is not as forgiving as plastic, and unless you replaced all of the piping and are sure there is no way any water could still be in there I would at least blow air through it, opening each faucet one at a time, to be sure.
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Copper has been replaced with Pex. Faucets haven't been put in, yet. I'm pretty sure there is no water lying around, just more so about lubricatin whatever to keep thin dogs from getting brittle.
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11-21-2013, 03:45 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1969 23' Safari
Athens
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 128
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polarlyse
Close the door !!!!! That's about it.
Does it get cold in Georgia ????
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It can get to about 10 degrees at the coldest. Were in north Georgia. I could run a small space heater in there on those nights-no propane on-AND keep the doors closed 
New black tank, BTW, no water in it. I think that I will but some antifreeze in the sink and toilet. Wait, I don't have a toilet, yet! Lol
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11-21-2013, 03:47 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1969 23' Safari
Athens
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 128
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sarasafari
Copper has been replaced with Pex. Faucets haven't been put in, yet. I'm pretty sure there is no water lying around, just more so about lubricatin whatever to keep thin dogs from getting brittle.
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Thin dogs from getting brittle?!! Thanks auto-correct. I meant things from getting brittle.
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