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02-13-2013, 07:32 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 23' International
Milford
, Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 16
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Stabilizing jack 3/4 Drive Drill
I replaced my long manual hand crank with the Camco 57363 Leveling Scissor Jack Socket 3/4. My 12volt Ryobi just won't cut it when it comes to the torque and battery life required. I also don't want to run out of juice every time I have to raise and lower. Any suggestions from people currently using this setup would be of great help. I am looking for maybe a Dewalt etc... With battery life and torque for at least 8 up and downs of the stabilizing jack.
Thanks
Mark
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02-13-2013, 07:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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I have an 18V DeWalt which works fine.
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by outdoors717
I replaced my long manual hand crank with the Camco 57363 Leveling Scissor Jack Socket 3/4. My 12volt Ryobi just won't cut it when it comes to the torque and battery life required. I also don't want to run out of juice every time I have to raise and lower. Any suggestions from people currently using this setup would be of great help. I am looking for maybe a Dewalt etc... With battery life and torque for at least 8 up and downs of the stabilizing jack.
Thanks
Mark
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02-13-2013, 07:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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We carry a small Milwaukee drill with spare battery; I think it would do the job but really is light effort to simply use the hand crank. I like the "feel" of setting them by hand so as not to over tighten.
An extra battery and charger is usually provided with the drills, which could be kept up with a small inverter when traveling between campsites.
doug k
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02-13-2013, 08:56 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1994 30' Excella
Truckee
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 261
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Both batteries on my DeWalt gave out, so I bought an inexpensive Kawasaki from Costco for about $40 (a $30 savings over a single new DeWalt battery). It works great for raising/lowering the stabilizers. I've never run out of juice before recharging, but have probably only completed 4-5 up and downs before doing so.
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02-13-2013, 09:19 AM
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Antiquepedaler
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Laramie
, Wyoming
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 832
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Been using a $20 Harbor freight drill for the leveler jacks and drilling out broken rivets. I must have lucked out as it's going on 3 years old and works fine.
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2021 Caravel 20 FB
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02-13-2013, 09:40 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1978 31' Sovereign
Cincinnati
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 83
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Maybe you should grease or oil the mechanism. The drill should only be lowering the jack so that it touches the ground and a little more. The jacks are not meant to "jack up" the trailer. I would think that I could raise and lower mine (50+) tiimes before the drill ran out of juice. I rebuilt my jacks and they move extremely easy. Almost no problem for the drill to move them.
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02-13-2013, 09:50 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Mercer Island
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 146
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Erock has the answer. Grease the screws and it should work better.
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02-13-2013, 10:10 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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We have been using a DeWalt 18 volt driver/drill to lower and raise Lucy's stabilizers for years. I wouldn't even think about using a hand crank. Lucy carries her own charger. We charge batteries while on shore power. We use the same batteries for Lucy's work light and her vacuum cleaner.
Brian
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02-13-2013, 10:46 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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After using a battery-operated drill for a time I have gone back to using the hand crank most of the time. Using the drill doesn't make the job go materially faster and then there's the fuss with the battery and with making sure it doesn't get stolen. Nobody steals a crank.
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02-13-2013, 11:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,919
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I use a great big 1/2" Dewalt 3 speed. After trying 3-4 smaller drills I finally gave up and paid $150 for a big-dog.
From experience, I wont use grease on the screws again...1 trip down a dusty road and the grease grabbed so much dirt that even the crank would barely move them.
I've lubed with a spray on dry lube and I'm betting that rubbing a wax candle on the screw threads would work just as good.
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02-13-2013, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by outdoors717
I replaced my long manual hand crank with the Camco 57363 Leveling Scissor Jack Socket 3/4. My 12volt Ryobi just won't cut it when it comes to the torque and battery life required. I also don't want to run out of juice every time I have to raise and lower. Any suggestions from people currently using this setup would be of great help. I am looking for maybe a Dewalt etc... With battery life and torque for at least 8 up and downs of the stabilizing jack.
Thanks
Mark
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My first reaction is that the problem lies with something other than the drill.
Here are some ideas.
Drill's battery needs to be replaced.,
Stabilizer jacks need to be cleaned and lubricated.
More force than that needed for stabilization is being applied.
One or more jacks may have been deformed by too much force or impact from other objects.
Ken
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02-14-2013, 08:34 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 23' International
Milford
, Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 16
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I know the jacks are for stabilization only. They move just fine. I also have been using a dry lube that is wiped off pretty good. Yes they can accumulate plenty on dusty roads like the North Fork in Montana
I am rolling about 70 to 100 days a year. Was kind of looking for a speed up of the set up process in camp or just when stopping for one night and not un hooking. Maybe one could imagine a NASCAR pit crew. I think the battery is shot in the Ryobi, and the spare is headed in the same direction.
Outdoors717
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02-14-2013, 10:51 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,618
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When we do an over night stop and leave the truck attached to the trailer, we do not bother with the levelers. One less thing to mess with in the morning.
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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02-14-2013, 11:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 25' Classic
Prescott
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 623
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
When we do an over night stop and leave the truck attached to the trailer, we do not bother with the levelers. One less thing to mess with in the morning.
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Same here, but I do put the tongue jack down a little to take the load off
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02-14-2013, 11:46 AM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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I use the crank. It doesn't take that much longer, and is a little exercises. I also use the crank for the jacks on the ProPride hitch. I count the turns and that is what I use to adjust for different loading conditions. If anyone wants to part with a crank, I could use another. I could get my wife involved and do it in half the time.
Ken
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02-14-2013, 07:44 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Someone will be wondering. So, yes, the right one is quick. And sturdy. Cheap. A forever purchase.
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02-20-2013, 10:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Excella
Bowie
, Maryland
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,345
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HiHoAgRV
I use a great big 1/2" Dewalt 3 speed. After trying 3-4 smaller drills I finally gave up and paid $150 for a big-dog.
From experience, I wont use grease on the screws again...1 trip down a dusty road and the grease grabbed so much dirt that even the crank would barely move them.
I've lubed with a spray on dry lube and I'm betting that rubbing a wax candle on the screw threads would work just as good.
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You may be on to something there - three of ours are now difficult to move even with the handle despite repeated greasings; the 9.6v DeWalt drill can only barely turn them (it should be able to, though, and has worked in the past). One of my plans for spring is to crawl under and clean the threads well, possibly with a wire brush, and lubricate it with a dry lube like you said.
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02-20-2013, 12:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Silicone spray works pretty well too.
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02-20-2013, 01:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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There is also a need for corrosion protection on these jack assemblies. I sprayed ours with Boeshield T-9, as well as all other steel under the Airstream. A decent lubricant and leaves a light coating of paraffin wax to protect them.
doug k
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02-20-2013, 01:08 PM
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bilby05
1962 24' Tradewind
1962 24' Tradewind
Canyon
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 264
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Stabilizer jacks
Whatever you do, whatever you buy, be sure you get one that has a LITHIUM battery. I couldn't believe the difference. I am finally convinced that a battery can outlast a drill. I used a 3/8 in corded drill for awhile, but the dust got the best of it. I cleaned the screw shafts and lubed them again but I am sure they will dirty up quickly. May try candle wax or soap next. We always lubed sticky dresser drawers with dry bar soap. And that might help keep 'em clean. Cheers bill b.
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2001 Ford 7.3 Diesel
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