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07-07-2017, 04:36 PM
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Rivet Master 
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Interesting tongue jack issue.
My front jack had always worked on AC, battery and pluged in to TV. Today it decided to only work when the umbilical cord was plugged into TV. The jack light works so it is getting battery power when not plugged into TV.
Anyone ever seen this phenomenon?
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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07-07-2017, 04:54 PM
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Rivet Master 
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Check your batteries. I had that issue and my batteries were ready for replacement [emoji20]
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07-07-2017, 05:16 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
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Hi
Most likely, your batteries are in trouble. Could be bum batteries, could simply be that they need a charge. If they also don't work on AC, then your charger / converter may have an issue (and not be charging the batteries).
Bottom line - you have some troubleshooting to do ...
Bob
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07-07-2017, 05:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Basic troubleshooting 101. The first thing I did was check the batteries condition and all the connections. They are good.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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07-07-2017, 06:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Step back and regroup. Let the batteries sit for a while and retested. I have 2-6 volt Trojen batteries. Now showing 11.75 volts (not good). Plugged AC back in and voltage did not change. Reset all breakers on the converter and it went to 14.47 output. Battery voltage did not increase. First stop tomorrow might just be for new batteries. Need to check my battery warranty paperwork. Leaving tomorrow morning and I will be doing some dry camping on my way to Escanaba. Going to have to have reliable batteries.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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07-07-2017, 06:36 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,666
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Hi
Ummm ..... errrr ..... converter went to 14.47V, battery voltage did not increase .... hmmm ... Should not the battery voltage be identical to the converter output voltage?
Sounds like something that should be connected is not connected.
Bob
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07-07-2017, 07:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Check use/store switch setting. Needs to be in 'use' to charge batteries...
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it. 
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07-07-2017, 07:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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A shot in the dark here, is the Battery Disconnect Switch in USE and is the relay actually working? In the STORE position the batteries would indicate one voltage and the converter another voltage because they are isolated from each other. Meantime, the batteries are not being recharged by the converter.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
The Truth is More Important Than the Facts
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07-07-2017, 07:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. You guys just saved me $300. The battery use/store switch was in the store position. I must of brain farted because I always leave the switch in the use position.  
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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07-08-2017, 02:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Sequim
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Join Date: Sep 2015
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As a relative newbie it is somewhat reassuring to see even the seasoned experts have an occasional lapse. And it also is comforting to see the benefit (in this case $300 plus all of us learning something) this community offers to everyone.
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D2
"Having differences makes a difference"
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07-08-2017, 05:19 PM
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Currently Looking...
Racine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Thank you, thank you, thank you. You guys just saved me $300. The battery use/store switch was in the store position. I must of brain farted because I always leave the switch in the use position. |
I had this happened to me a couple of months ago. Oops
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07-08-2017, 06:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Interesting tongue jack issue.
The problem with use/store switch is that the red light only indicates there is 12 volt power. There is no way to make it do anything else, by design.
If the AS is plugged into shore power, the converter lights the light, but batteries do not charge if the relay was left in 'store'
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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07-08-2017, 07:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Spent the day on the road and all is well. Chalk it up to drivers error, brain fart or whatever. It was such a simple fix that I was blind. If it ever happens again I will turn in my happy Airstream owners card.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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07-08-2017, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Chalk it up to an "experience overloaded" brain...
That's my story and I'm sticking to it...
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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