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08-30-2020, 09:09 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 27' Globetrotter
Elbert
, CO
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 329
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I think my hitch jack is dying
While on the road, our hitch jack (Atwood 4000) seems to have picked up a couple of bad habits:
1. While going up or down, the gears have intermittent periods of chattering - then smooth out again.
2. When at higher levels (e.g., when putting on WD bars), sometimes the brake doesn't work and the jack starts whirring merrily as it lowers the tongue. A short press of the EXT switch stops the decent and the brake then engages.
Is this symptomatic of a dying jack, or something that jacks just do? I suspect the former. Assuming failure is imminent, is there anything to be done for it besides installing a new jack? If so, how do Atwoods compare to others, such as Husky or Bulldog? Having read a few threads, it seems the Husky 4500s are favored replacements.
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08-30-2020, 09:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Remove the cover and look for chards of aluminum from the gears ... ours went bad fairly quickly ...replaced with a new one from Amazon: Brute 5000. See my write up and pics.
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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08-31-2020, 04:40 AM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,436
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Suggest complete replacement. Sounds like several issues gears? And brake?
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08-31-2020, 04:49 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Welcome Aboard👍
It's still under warrantee...but will be replaced in kind.
Do yourself a favor...get a Husky 4000 or 5000.
No gears to strip, quiet and the 5 comes with a remote control.
Plus it just looks "Airstream"
Bob
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08-31-2020, 06:49 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 27' Globetrotter
Elbert
, CO
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 329
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Thanks, all. I had thought about the warranty, but I'm not impressed with the Atwood. I had noticed that the Husky 4500 also comes with a remote, but the cost differential between a 4500 and 5000 is small enough, I was thinking 5000 as well.
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08-31-2020, 09:57 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2021 23' Globetrotter
Jefferson City
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 34
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Trailer Jack
Went through the same experience a few weeks ago. The jack quickly diminished to a 3" lift / descent. Luckily, I was in the process of arrival at a campsite and left the rig hitched to the TV. Next morning drove (3hrs) to the dealer (BT Thomas) and they had a new jack installed in 20 minutes after arrival No issues with the warranty as mine is 2019. The dealer indicated a relatively low failure rate but high enough to be problemmatic for those few customers. Now that I have brand new jack, I have the option of selling it on-line and upgrading.
Best of luck, but i'd replace it sooner than later.
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08-31-2020, 10:08 AM
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Smitten
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
Healdsburg
, California
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 6
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Bad Jack
Same here with a 2019 Tommy 27. Once the jack starts to go it's a pretty quick death. Husky 5000 is very impressive.
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08-31-2020, 10:28 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Shawnee
, Kansas
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 70
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djb75
While on the road, our hitch jack (Atwood 4000) seems to have picked up a couple of bad habits:
1. While going up or down, the gears have intermittent periods of chattering - then smooth out again.
2. When at higher levels (e.g., when putting on WD bars), sometimes the brake doesn't work and the jack starts whirring merrily as it lowers the tongue. A short press of the EXT switch stops the decent and the brake then engages.
Is this symptomatic of a dying jack, or something that jacks just do? I suspect the former. Assuming failure is imminent, is there anything to be done for it besides installing a new jack? If so, how do Atwoods compare to others, such as Husky or Bulldog? Having read a few threads, it seems the Husky 4500s are favored replacements.
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We shelled one out on a Caravan to Salem, OR. Got a Husky, but have a new Atwood in the box to sell!?
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08-31-2020, 11:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djb75
Thanks, all. I had thought about the warranty, but I'm not impressed with the Atwood. I had noticed that the Husky 4500 also comes with a remote, but the cost differential between a 4500 and 5000 is small enough, I was thinking 5000 as well.
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I wasn't aware that the 4500 came with a remote, so I checked. The one claiming 4500# and a remote is not the same design as the 5000# version. The old 4500# version is now labeled as 4000# and no remote.
But, my 5000# version was only $20 more at the time, so why not? It's not the tongue weight you're lifting if you have bars on the hitch, it's the back of the truck AND the tongue weight!
More is more.
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08-31-2020, 01:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
Rogers
, Arkansas
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
I wasn't aware that the 4500 came with a remote, so I checked. The one claiming 4500# and a remote is not the same design as the 5000# version. The old 4500# version is now labeled as 4000# and no remote.
But, my 5000# version was only $20 more at the time, so why not? It's not the tongue weight you're lifting if you have bars on the hitch, it's the back of the truck AND the tongue weight!
More is more.
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I think about this every time I take my WD bars off and the rear of the truck goes up, I wonder to myself " is this the time"
I haven't had 1 problem with mine but read about it all the time. I truly do wonder what the percentage of failure the Atwood's have?
How many out there never encounter a problem with their Atwood?
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08-31-2020, 02:08 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 27' Globetrotter
Elbert
, CO
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 329
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As it turns out, the Atwood warranty is only available to the original owner. So that makes the decision a lot easier - how can you resist a name like "Husky Superbrute"?
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08-31-2020, 02:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Here it is ... sans propane tank cover. It is a snug fit; so, pad the rear for the jack or cover. Note I "armored" the power cable. This made a much better install than the original ... no more slo-blow fuse. The circuit is now protected by a circuit breaker.
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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08-31-2020, 02:43 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
North-Central
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 115
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I'd not wait for failure which sounds imminent.
Just replaced my noisy, grinding, whining, OEM tongue jack with Husky 4000. Now quiet, smooth, and no more fuse to blow. Its tight with propane cover so padded back of 4000 with exterior grade velcor felt.
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08-31-2020, 03:38 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,411
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I vote the Husky also. I went with the Super Brute due to the heavy hitch weight on my Classic slide out and the ball and screw technology which is heads and tails above the gear technology in other jacks. Also if you any reason you have to use the hand crank, there is no synchronization of the gears like you had with the older Barker jacks that Airstream supplied. Also check out the picture below and you will see the nice holder that comes with the jack that stows the connector to your tow vehicle when it's not in use. Love this!
The only negative is that hand crank is large. It's too large to clear the tank cover, and on my trailer it even is in the way of the gas bottles. So if you have to crank for any reason, you to have to do a little temporary relocation of the cover for sure, and maybe a tank dependent upon the size of the bottles.
As far as the wireless technology that came with my Super Brute it's an eh.... Personally I've only used it once and quite honestly my leveling indicators are out side the trailer, close to the hitch jack. So in my case I didn't feel that it's a big advantage to me.
Finally a big positive was the price and at the time my Super Brute was less cost than purchasing a replacement Barker Super Jack.
Jack
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AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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08-31-2020, 07:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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Looks like this jack would end the use of my flag poles holder.
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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08-31-2020, 07:11 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 27' Globetrotter
Elbert
, CO
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 329
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Between chattering, "auto-retraction", and the jack's tendency to gyrate, I've got the 5000 ordered and hope to receive/install it next week.
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09-01-2020, 07:16 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 25' Flying Cloud
North-Central
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 115
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Somewhere I read that the Husky model w/ remote may be another source of phantom battery drain. Something jack about needing power to stay in constant communication w/ remote. Can anyone confirm?
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09-02-2020, 04:40 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2021 23' Globetrotter
Jefferson City
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 34
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Replacement options
Does anyone have any experience / opinions on the Stromberg Carlson Electric Trailer Jack as a replacement?
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09-06-2020, 09:38 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2019 33' Classic
2016 30' Flying Cloud
2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Ocean Springs
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 18
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Welcome to the Club
I've on Airstream#3 and tongue jack #7
Clearly, the "standard issue" jack lacks robust longevity.
My theory is that even a slight misalignment of the loaded gear mechanism results in binding.
OBTW, unless you're lifting on a WHEEL (as opposed to the standard issue "plate" then binding will occur. You have probably noticed that when you remount your rig to your vehicle that once the ball seats in the socket, the jack "jumps" forward with a sigh of relief.
Get a ROBUST wheel and try it (once you replace your dead tongue jack).
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09-06-2020, 09:46 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
west plains
, Missouri
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 202
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Jacks fail at inopportune times. A word of advice from experience: always carry a compact floor jack and extra blocks. It is a tool which can be useful in many ways...i.e. when the front end skews around on a hilly lot, jack fails, tire issues, leveler sticks, etc. Ours gets emergency use for ourselves or neighbors twice a year in travels.
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