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Old 05-14-2020, 03:06 PM   #1
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Preventative sealing of new Airstream; Areas to focus on?

Hi, all!

We developed a leak in the rear panoramic windows of our new 27FB. We’ve determined that we have two separate leaks in this area. We’re pretty sure one originates at the clearance marker lights as they were not firmly fitted to the aluminum end caps. We’ve taped up around the clearance marker lights and we believe we’ve eliminated one of the leaks until we can have a dealer properly repair this. But there’s still water getting in the panoramic curved window channels. I’m considering using Captain Tolly in the outside window frame to stop this minor leak.

With that said... I spent some time checking out a lot of the exterior caulking and sealants and I’m concerned about how poorly some areas were sealed. I want to go through the Airstream and seal all of the potential trouble areas before the rainy season comes in full force.

What areas should I check based on your experience?

Can water leak in from the “Airstream” lettering on the end caps? Or are they simply held on by double-sided tape?

What about the upper and lower chrome belt trim? I’m noticing a lot of areas not completely sealed here... but I feel like I’ve read somewhere that the belt trim will not leak water into the Airstream.

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Old 05-14-2020, 04:23 PM   #2
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got Warranty? if so, call Jackson Center
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:24 PM   #3
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And, no, the lettering can't leak; you are right that they are just stuck on with tape.

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Old 05-14-2020, 06:39 PM   #4
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I’m literally taking a break from applying Capt Tolly’s to the gaskets around my windows, it’s so satisfying to see it wick into a seam I thought was secure. Granted, my trailer is 42 years old but it’s in original, almost pristine condition due to maintenance like this.

I think it’s interesting that folks say “take it to Jackson Center” to have them do it right when they were the ones who did it in the first place.

Having a routine of circling the trailer throughout the year with Tolly’s (and a suction cup) and par bond is a necessary part of trailer ownership.

Regardless of what quality of sealing job the factory did, all trailers leak at some point and you’re kidding yourself when you think it doesn’t. It’s a lot to ask of something to stab a bunch of holes in it then bounce down the highway and expect it not to leak. Water finds a way.

In the end, only you will do an adequate job of sealing it as it’s part of the bargain.

BTW I’m talking about my Avion but the same thing applies to any trailer.

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Old 05-14-2020, 07:19 PM   #5
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I think it’s interesting that folks say “take it to Jackson Center” to have them do it right when they were the ones who did it in the first place.
OMG I think that is the most profound thing I've read here yet. touche!

As you say, resealing leaks is part of owning a [riveted especially] trailer. Things flex, leaks are the result.

You can take it back to the dealer or to JC and they will fix it but what are you going to do 3 years from now? May as well learn how to find and fix sealant leaks. Now manufacturing defects like misfitting parts? that's a different matter.

As far as the chrome trim? no the upper aluminum is lapped on top of the lower. Still needs to be sealed to prevent corrosion but not leaks.
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Old 05-15-2020, 06:33 AM   #6
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I’m literally taking a break from applying Capt Tolly’s to the gaskets around my windows, it’s so satisfying to see it wick into a seam I thought was secure....

Having a routine of circling the trailer throughout the year with Tolly’s (and a suction cup) and par bond is a necessary part of trailer ownership.


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What is Capt.Tolly’s, what is par bond, and why do I need a suction cup?

I’m missing something here ... help me out.
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Old 05-15-2020, 07:05 AM   #7
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What is Capt.Tolly’s, what is par bond, and why do I need a suction cup?

I’m missing something here ... help me out.
Here is the info on Captain Tolley's. I've used it and it works.

http://www.captaintolley.com/
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Old 05-15-2020, 07:22 AM   #8
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A suction cup is a handy diagnostic tool. Apply it over the rivets which are on smooth surfaces. If it sticks, the rivet it water/air tight. If it falls off, or loses its suction , there is a leaky rivet. Doesn't help with rivets on seams, as you cant get the cup to seal over a seam. I have probably found a dozen or two leaky rivets over the years.
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Old 05-15-2020, 07:23 AM   #9
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https://vintagetrailersupply.com/par...8aAs8lEALw_wcB

Parbond is for small narrow sealing areas, like top of belt moldings, around window/door frames, etc.

Captain Tolly's is a fantastic "wicking" sealer. As thin as water, but uses capillary action to get into tiny voids. Dries clear and almost invisible.
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Preventive sealing.....👍

....Go up on the roof.
That's where AS believes only birds and angels will ever see the quality sealing procedures being implemented.

Ck all vent's for cracks at the hinges and mount holes.


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I found this when I did my own PDI at home.🥴
New inner tube seal.🤓
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Here is the info on Captain Tolley's. I've used it and it works.

http://www.captaintolley.com/

Thanks!
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Old 05-15-2020, 10:05 AM   #12
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A suction cup is a handy diagnostic tool. Apply it over the rivets which are on smooth surfaces. If it sticks, the rivet it water/air tight. If it falls off, or loses its suction , there is a leaky rivet. Doesn't help with rivets on seams, as you cant get the cup to seal over a seam. I have probably found a dozen or two leaky rivets over the years.
That’s a great tip — thanks.
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https://vintagetrailersupply.com/par...8aAs8lEALw_wcB

Parbond is for small narrow sealing areas, like top of belt moldings, around window/door frames, etc.

Captain Tolly's is a fantastic "wicking" sealer. As thin as water, but uses capillary action to get into tiny voids. Dries clear and almost invisible.
Thanks — good to know.
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Old 05-15-2020, 11:33 AM   #14
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Thanks — good to know.

I have a 2018 FC and my question is should I order the "Clear" or the "Aluminum" Parbond? Thanks.
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Old 05-15-2020, 12:15 PM   #15
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Hi, all!

What areas should I check based on your experience?

Thanks!
Sorry to hear of your leak issues! That has to be frustrating!

I have had several very good sources say to seal the seam where the rear trunk and trailer meet. (where the black trunk meets the aluminum body)
It doesn't come sealed from the factory but many have said it has been the source of their leaks. Any good polyurethane sealer works. Sika 1A (or 15LM) is the product I used.
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:09 PM   #16
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I’ve been battling a pretty serious leak that was soaking the floor. My Par Bond arrived today. After much experimenting, I cannot determine the exact point of entry. The best solution I have is cutting away old caulking and using either the Par Bond, or Dicor where appropriate. Fingers crossed.
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Old 05-16-2020, 04:59 AM   #17
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Gulliver,

A couple tricks I learned from the forum that works great is to get some masking tape, the painters tape is best as it comes off easiest. Tape up all the areas you think might leak then hose with water for a long while. If it's still leaking let it dry and tape some more. When it is no longer leaking, start removing tape a bit at a time till you find a leak. Seal it let it dry and then continue removing tape till all the tape is gone.

Note that inside the trailer, water can travel a ways on the inside panels. Use a level from the leak location and go "uphill" from that spot to estimate the leak location.

Your plan to remove sealant and reseal everything will likely work but it is time consuming.
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Old 05-17-2020, 04:34 PM   #18
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Has anyone experienced a sandy buildup inside after towing? I’m assuming a leak of some sort. It on the galley side; dust in drawers and floor. I have a 22’ ft CCD
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Old 05-17-2020, 06:41 PM   #19
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I'd look closely at the wheel well pan for a crack or something. Drawers are generally open to the space behind them just where the pan is.
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Anyone know of a good tech article or how-to on resealing side panels with parabond or similar sealant.
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