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10-10-2020, 01:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1995 30' Excella
Harper Woods
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2017
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about over-application of sealants & glues
Hello,
I'm dealing with a previously described leak of the Penguin air conditioner condensation/rain drain, at the connection between the drain pan and discharge hose connector. There was big glob of caulk smeared around and on the connector and drain pan, and yet water was infiltrating past it and dripping.
I noticed this before but haven't mentioned it, that sealants and glues seem to be more cohesive than adhesive, i.e. it sticks to itself better than the surface that needs to be sealed. As before, it appeared to me that that the solvent and plasticizers had gradually evaporated, and the caulk had shrunk and contracted, and pulled away from the surface. Considering that there is very little water pressure on this joint (an inch or two of water at most), a thick glob was unnecessary and just made things more difficult in the end. Proper surface preparation and a thin layer are all that's really needed.
So I cut and peeled the glob away and cleaned the surface. At the moment, the only sealant I have is Lexel (Sashco mfr), and so I applied a thin layer around the fitting and tiny cracks, and smoothed it over. I think it will work ok, considering that there is very low pressure, and if it doesn't, then it won't be difficult to remove it, and maybe try Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Sealer. I'll let you know if the Lexel doesn't work.
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10-10-2020, 01:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Good to know.
This would also be good to post in the sealants summary thread.
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10-10-2020, 01:39 PM
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2020 28' Flying Cloud
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Hiawassee
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10-10-2020, 02:36 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Welcome Aboard 👍
I cleaned ALL the surface factory 'goop'. Re-sealed the mating curbs and screw threads and heads with 3m marine sealant, and covered with 3m Extreme Sealing tape.
Bob
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10-10-2020, 04:04 PM
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2017 20' Flying Cloud
Williamson County
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2017
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I had a cargo trailer that developed a leak around the roof seam. It had a large amount of sealant extending away from the joints, but you could lift it in large pieces with no bond to the aluminum. So yes it is all about surface prep including a good primer perhaps.
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10-10-2020, 04:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Less, (properly and carefully applied) is more....
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10-11-2020, 10:49 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2005 31' Classic
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 187
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Why not replace the hose ?
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10-11-2020, 01:14 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Be careful using alcohol as a cleaner. Some sealants are incomparable with it. Carburetor cleaner is better.
guskmg
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10-11-2020, 06:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville
, New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harryk
Why not replace the hose ?
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It's quite difficult to feed a new hose between the skins from the AC to the bottom of the trailer.
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10-12-2020, 07:36 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Waterloo
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 25
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I had a similar leak and a similar gob of separated sealant. On closer inspection, I found the plastic itself had hairline cracks. I cleaned it well, checked that the plastic was dissolved by acetone (styrene) and used acetone to soften the crack areas a sacrificial piece of styrene to strengthen it. No caulking/ sealants. Ugly, but better (stronger) than new.
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10-12-2020, 08:04 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 22' Sport
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 198
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guskmg
Be careful using alcohol as a cleaner. Some sealants are incomparable with it. Carburetor cleaner is better.
guskmg
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Assuming one allows substantial time between cleaning and application of the new sealant, isn't it safe to assume the alcohol will have evaporated completely?
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