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07-06-2009, 08:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 31' Sovereign
1967 22' Safari
1958 22' World Traveler
Pardeeville
, Wisconsin
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'67 Safari windows...differences?
While at the International in Madison, I noticed the windows on a 66 model had a metal covering on the edge of the windows...When i got home, I look at the ones on my 67 Safari...only 1 has the metal, the rest are just glass...What gives?? Any thoughts as to WHY this is?
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07-06-2009, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 28' Ambassador
Vintage Kin Owner
1998 25' Safari
Avonton
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2005
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The dfference is that you have one window from a 68. All 67 have no edgeing. I think they added the edgeing in 68 so that you could see where the window is and try to avoid it with your head.
If a 66 has the edgeing I would guess that it was added after.
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1950 Spartan
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07-06-2009, 10:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Doug is Right
The only model year to have the edge trim was 1968. If a 66' or 67' has edge trim on the window edges it was either added to the original Corning glass windows after 68' or the windows were replaced with ones from a 1968 donor trailer. If one of yours has metal edge first check to see if it is a Corning window. If it is it was probably a replacement for a broken window. These curved glass windows were extinct for many years until Vintage Trailer Supply started having them produced a few years ago. Then Andy R. at Inland RV had Airstream begin to make glass available thru his dealership. You may still be able to put new edge trim moulding around all your windows (from these suppliers) if you want it. However it involves buying different clips to fit over the edge trim to secure the windows. Hope this answers your questions. Happy Trails, Ed
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1967 Safari Twin "Landshark" w/International trim package
2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab SLE
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07-06-2009, 10:47 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aircooled4
While at the International in Madison, I noticed the windows on a 66 model had a metal covering on the edge of the windows...When i got home, I look at the ones on my 67 Safari...only 1 has the metal, the rest are just glass...What gives?? Any thoughts as to WHY this is?
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You can install some "silver tape" around the edge of the windows, to simulate the metal moldings.
We had metal moldings available at one time, but there was about a 50 percent reject ratio.
We have yet to find a good metal shop that could consistantly form that molding.
Maybe someday.
Andy
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07-07-2009, 02:42 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 31' Sovereign
1967 22' Safari
1958 22' World Traveler
Pardeeville
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Thanks for the info guys..I much prefer the look of the glass WITHOUT the trim...i just hadnt noticed that I had it on only 1 window! You werent in Madison with your Safari were you Ed?
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07-07-2009, 06:21 AM
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1967 26' Overlander
1953 17' Clipper
Mendon
, Vermont
Join Date: Oct 2006
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As soon as I bought my '67 I purchased the trim from Inland RV and put it on my windows to protect them since, at that time, you couldn't replace the curved ones. I understand "prefering the look without", but with 6'8" and 6' 6" guys in our family, I figured I needed to do everything I could to protect them from the windows, and the windows from their heads!!
I prefer the look of the shiny edges, particularly when the windows are closed. If anyone is interested in installing these, make sure you use a heat gun to warm them up before bending for the curve.
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07-07-2009, 09:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aircooled4
Thanks for the info guys..I much prefer the look of the glass WITHOUT the trim...i just hadnt noticed that I had it on only 1 window! You werent in Madison with your Safari were you Ed?
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No, I haven't been on the road yet with my trailer. Bought it in '04 and trying to do a restoration rather than a total upgrade to interior and systems. I did upgrade the window seals to vinyl (Fleetwood entry door stock) from the original rubber seals. I had to replace all the windows as the PO had nothing but plexiglas ones in the trailer. Got my new glass from VTS and a local glass shop for the flat front and back ones. I have the metal edge mouldings from a few of them if anyone wants it. The new door seal is Airstream '07 entry door "D" type seal. So far it all works great! Stripping all the interior wood is next so I can get it all to match again (UV) sun faded. Thanks for asking. Happy Trails, Ed
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2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab SLE
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07-07-2009, 09:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
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Vintage trailer sells the trim for the windows if you want it.
Window Hardware
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08-07-2009, 12:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Big Ed,
You mentioned that you got your new glass for the front and rear windows from a glass shop. I checked with quite a few from around here and they were unable to get anything thinner than 1/8" thick in tempered glass. I measure the thickness as 3/32" thick. were you able to get 3/32" or did you get 1/8" and it works? I'll be sending a PM as followup to this. Thanks, Michael
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08-07-2009, 02:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Glass thickness
Michael, I too sent you a PM. The Flat glass is 1/8th inch thick to match my VTS glass. It is also heat tempered and has pencil ground edges. It works in the glass clamps on the hinge bars just fine and I think it fits tighter to the window seals. Hopefully that will help to prevent future water leaks. Being a little thicker it should be more resistant to breaking too. Ed
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2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab SLE
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08-07-2009, 02:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
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Thanks Ed, That will save me some money. Also, thanks for the additional info about the pencil ground edges , although I'm not sure what that means!
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08-07-2009, 08:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,013
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Flat glass windows
Michael, The glass company will grind/sand the edges of the glass before it is heat treated to take the sharp edges off the finished glass window. It makes for a safer edge should someone walk into one of them. Also, make sure to have them round the two bottom corners so it eliminates the square corners to help prevent breakage and of course cuts! When I ordered mine I traced the round corner from one of the other windows so the radius would match. Happy Trails, Ed
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2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab SLE
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"My tire was thumping, I thought it was flat. When I looked at the tire, I noticed your CAT!" Burma Shave
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