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11-08-2010, 03:04 PM
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#41
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
The newer trailers with a keyed deadbolt still have an issue.....although I don't think it is a lack of "detent" or slamming issue. It is REALLY easy to hit the deadbolt lever from the inside when pulling the door latch handle. If you move the deadbolt lever just past the detent, it will lock when slammed. But, several keys, in several locations takes care of any mishap.
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Excuse me, my previous comment pertains to the regular doo handle lock mechanism...not the deadbolt!
My unit has:
1)the door handle latch/lock mechanism. locks with key from outside and a sliding lever on inside
2) a deadbolt. locks with key from outside and a twist knob (like your house) on the inside.
From what I am reading...there are several different styles in the past few years???????
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11-08-2010, 03:39 PM
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#42
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
Excuse me, my previous comment pertains to the regular doo handle lock mechanism...not the deadbolt!
My unit has:
1)the door handle latch/lock mechanism. locks with key from outside and a sliding lever on inside
2) a deadbolt. locks with key from outside and a twist knob (like your house) on the inside.
From what I am reading...there are several different styles in the past few years???????
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Yes, you have the newer type....don't know the year, but at least AFTER '01, because our '01 had the slide pin type of deadbolt that would lock itself from slamming the door, or sometimes it would do it on a rough road.
The newer type that you have, and is on my '04, has a keyed deadbolt lock, but the problem that this door lock develops is not with the deadbolt, but rather the regular door lock. It locks itself, and sometimes won't even unlock with the key.
The one that Andy has the repair kit for is the "not so new" one that uses a slide pin.
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Steve
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11-08-2010, 04:01 PM
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#43
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3 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston
, Full time traveler
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 212
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Happened to me just a few days ago and of course I had not seen this thread until today. Cost me $150 for a locksmith to pick the lock --he needed less than two minutes to do so.
Yes, it locked because I slammed the door in the wind. How could this design flaw not have been corrected long ago?
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11-08-2010, 04:09 PM
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#44
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
The one that Andy has the repair kit for is the "not so new" one that uses a slide pin.
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Steve.
Please stop quoting what we have and what we don't have and what it may fit.
You are dead wrong in your statement.
We appreciate trying to help, but in this case, your wrong.
Thank you.
Andy
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11-08-2010, 04:20 PM
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#45
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HCR
Happened to me just a few days ago and of course I had not seen this thread until today. Cost me $150 for a locksmith to pick the lock --he needed less than two minutes to do so.
Yes, it locked because I slammed the door in the wind. How could this design flaw not have been corrected long ago?
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Because their list of things needing correction is so long and overwhelming that they are frozen due to anxiety?
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11-09-2010, 01:02 PM
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#46
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1 Rivet Member
2007 25' International CCD FB
benicia
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5
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I'm in !!!!! Thanks to Andy / inland rv for the info.no locksmith no broken windows
Off to make more keys!!!!!
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11-22-2010, 04:43 PM
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#47
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Rivet Master
2008 27' Classic FB
Burkburnett
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 985
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More confused than when I started
From what I've read in this and some parallel threads on the subject, Andy has a fix for a deadbolt that can lock itself if the door slams and that this problem appears to be pervasive on later model trailers. It appears that there may be different types of lock hardware and the problem locks are those that have a deadbolt separate from the main lock and this deadbolt may have a pin or lever that slides in a slot to activate it.
I've attached a photo, remember the adage that a picture is worth 1,000 words. My deadbolt has a rotating knob that feels like there is a cam inside to act as a detent. This deadbolt can be operated from the outside using a key that is different from the one on the main lock. It is possible trip the lever on the main lock as you're going out and when the door closes, it is locked, but not by the deadbolt.
Is this design different from the one Andy's kit fixes?
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11-22-2010, 04:59 PM
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#48
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Steve.
Please stop quoting what we have and what we don't have and what it may fit.
You are dead wrong in your statement.
We appreciate trying to help, but in this case, your wrong.
Thank you.
Andy
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The one that I got the repair kit from Andy for was the "not so new" one that uses a slide pin.
Do you like this statement better, Andy?
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11-22-2010, 07:51 PM
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#49
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
The one that I got the repair kit from Andy for was the "not so new" one that uses a slide pin.
Do you like this statement better, Andy?
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No!!!
Nothing, I could ever do, I don't think would ever please your desires.
Andy
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11-22-2010, 09:05 PM
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#50
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
No!!!
Nothing, I could ever do, I don't think would ever please your desires.
Andy
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But Andy, I was trying to please YOUR desires.
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Steve
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01-04-2011, 03:29 PM
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#51
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3 Rivet Member
2004 25' Safari
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 139
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How does the lockout kit work/ install??
Quote:
Originally Posted by YankeeDoodle
... Andy has a fix for a deadbolt that can lock itself if the door slams and that this problem appears to be pervasive on later model trailers. It appears that there may be different types of lock hardware and the problem locks are those that have a deadbolt separate from the main lock and this deadbolt may have a pin or lever that slides in a slot to activate it.
....a picture is worth 1,000 words. My deadbolt has a rotating knob that feels like there is a cam inside to act as a detent. This deadbolt can be operated from the outside using a key that is different from the one on the main lock. It is possible trip the lever on the main lock as you're going out and when the door closes, it is locked, but not by the deadbolt.
Is this design different from the one Andy's kit fixes?
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I just rec'd the kit from Andy- THANKS!. I have a '04 Safari with a door exactly like in post #47 above.
How do I install this kit??
Thanks,
Don
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01-04-2011, 04:35 PM
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#52
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJW
I just rec'd the kit from Andy- THANKS!. I have a '04 Safari with a door exactly like in post #47 above.
How do I install this kit??
Thanks,
Don
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Instructions should have been with the kit.
PM us your e-mail, and we will forward the intructions to you.
Andy
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01-04-2011, 04:45 PM
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#53
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Rivet Master
1973 25' Tradewind
Bloomsbury
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 696
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OK, gonna ask, does this lockout and fix pertain to certian years of trailers? Or all of them? I have a 1973 Tradewind, and will def. send my SASE if it is possible for mine to lock. MPJ
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01-04-2011, 05:42 PM
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#54
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moparjohn
OK, gonna ask, does this lockout and fix pertain to certian years of trailers? Or all of them? I have a 1973 Tradewind, and will def. send my SASE if it is possible for mine to lock. MPJ
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Nope, it's not for the 70's trailers.
Andy
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01-04-2011, 05:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,436
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Andy,
I have a 1997 Excella 1000 30'. Do I need the afore mentioned kit?
Thanks,
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WBCCI# 9259 AIR# 38927 TAC-TX 14
Stop Littering-Spay & Neuter-- Adopt From Rescue
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01-04-2011, 06:00 PM
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#56
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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I used to lock myself out on my 73 all the time with my after market deadbolt. I solved the problem in 2 ways: 1. a tiny bungee I hooked on the deadbolt when not in the trailer and in case I forgot to do #1 a length of coat hanger with right angle bends on each end.
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01-04-2011, 08:13 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwoodtx
Andy,
I have a 1997 Excella 1000 30'. Do I need the afore mentioned kit?
Thanks,
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Yes.
Andy
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01-18-2011, 06:56 PM
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#58
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Rivet Master
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Georgetown
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 796
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Lockout Kit Needed?
Is the Lockout Kit needed/recommended for a 2006 25' International Ocean Breeze? If I understand the discussion so far on this thread then I am thinking the answer to my question is "yes" ... but if someone can confirm my understanding it would be most appreciated.
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01-18-2011, 06:59 PM
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#59
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank&Mike
Is the Lockout Kit needed/recommended for a 2006 25' International Ocean Breeze? If I understand the discussion so far on this thread then I am thinking the answer to my question is "yes" ... but if someone can confirm my understanding it would be most appreciated.
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Your question can be answered in 2 words.
Yes sir.
Andy
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03-22-2011, 05:04 PM
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#60
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1 Rivet Member
1998 25' Excella
Fredericksburg
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
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Here is my fix
This is what I did.
A rubber band and a 3M stick on hook. Total work time: 10 seconds.
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